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[Deleted member 21883]

Dear Mr. Rabbi Jesus O'Josephsen aka God,
Why exactly should I support your religion when I do not get a wife out of the deal? Why did you give Adam a waifu but not me? Why did you let evil people like fornicators, adulterers, tyrants, and thugs get married but not me? Why do you not promise people who were cheated out of love in this life eventual love in heaven? Why do you ghost us like a 21st century company hiring that gives interviews but never follows up with a response? Why do you let the dumb bully people breed and the smart empathetic people rot alone? What exactly did my parents do that was so great that made them worthy of the life that I have been denied?

 

[trying to ascend]

Who is adam?

 

[your personality]

@mänline @Billowel @Mainländer @FlamingCel
set this colvin straight.

 

[Deleted member 21883]

Who is adam?

The first man.

 

[trying to ascend]

The first man.

Oh... I thought you were talking about a guy that ascended

 

[NuclearCel]

The first man.

The first cuck you mean?

 

[Deleted member 21883]

The first cuck you mean?

The guy with the garden.

 

[ReconElement]

The first cuck you mean?

Yea exactly I will beat the shit out of a foid if I get banished from heaven cos of her and now have to live out of wageslaving or doing something menial to survive, but believing in God being an incel is strangely enough

 

[Deleted member 20811]

@mänline @Billowel @Mainländer @FlamingCel
set this colvin straight.

????? No where in this thread was my name mentioned.

 

[Blackpill Bishop]

I'm not going to argue whether god is real or not, but assuming for a second he is

I personally believe that he truly does not care about our trivial day to day lives

He doesnt care if someone lost their job, or you can't get a girlfriend or someone died in a car accident

These are mundane trivial things that simply symbolize the never ending cycle of life and death

This universe operates out of the law of Cause and Effect

If you have the required looks level - you will see some results, If you have the required skills you probably will careermax/moneymax or whatever

I personally feel people who follow religion are some of the most deeply brainwashed bluepilled people on this planet who believe things like 'good things happen to good people' or 'god has a grand plan for all of us' and they just 'pray and believe' - that's truly not how it works

 

[Studiocel]

I'm not going to argue whether god is real or not, but assuming for a second he is

I personally believe that he truly does not care about our trivial day to day lives

He doesnt care if someone lost their job, or you can't get a girlfriend or someone died in a car accident

These are mundane trivial things that simply symbolize the never ending cycle of life and death

This universe operates out of the law of Cause and Effect

If you have the required looks level - you will see some results, If you have the required skills you probably will careermax/moneymax or whatever

I personally feel people who follow religion are some of the most deeply brainwashed bluepilled people on this planet who believe things like 'good things happen to good people' or 'god has a grand plan for all of us' and they just 'pray and believe' - that's truly not how it works

I believe that there must have been a God or something to start the cycle of cause and effect but I'm skeptical of the idea that this God has any direct control over the world or that he personally cares about us.

 

[NuclearCel]

The guy with the garden.

He didnt own nothing bro. He got cucked by eve and sent to the deepest pits of hell. That is what happens to whiteknights.

Yea exactly I will beat the shit out of a foid if I get banished from heaven cos of her and now have to live out of wageslaving or doing something menial to survive, but believing in God being an incel is strangely enough

I pray to god so he may smite me down so hard that i perish completely.

I pray to Lord Shiva & Lord Hanuman for a divine judgement of terrifying power that will wipe me out along with all my suffering and pain. I will then chill in limbo.

 

[Copexodius Maximus]

Dear Mr. Rabbi Jesus O'Josephsen aka God,
Why exactly should I support your religion when I do not get a wife out of the deal? Why did you give Adam a waifu but not me? Why did you let evil people like fornicators, adulterers, tyrants, and thugs get married but not me? Why do you not promise people who were cheated out of love in this life eventual love in heaven? Why do you ghost us like a 21st century company hiring that gives interviews but never follows up with a response? Why do you let the dumb bully people breed and the smart empathetic people rot alone? What exactly did my parents do that was so great that made them worthy of the life that I have been denied?

Jesus wasn't married, think about that.

 

[ReconElement]

He didnt own nothing bro. He got cucked by eve and sent to the deepest pits of hell. That is what happens to whiteknights.


I pray to god so he may smite me down so hard that i perish completely.

I pray to Lord Shiva & Lord Hanuman for a divine judgement of terrifying power that will wipe me out along with all my suffering and pain. I will then chill in limbo.

BASED

 

[Billowel]

the problem of evil is large(large as in how important and concerned people are with it) and it is what put me away from god for a very long time.i have recommended this video several times and i do so because it is a decent introduction to the problem of evil.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ei0gPoqx_bQ&t=2506s&ab_channel=InspiringPhilosophy


i can't write for shit,so this man has done a much better introduction then i ever could.If you still struggle after that,then tell me your doubts and i will try to anwser.

 

[Copexodius Maximus]

He didnt own nothing bro. He got cucked by eve and sent to the deepest pits of hell. That is what happens to whiteknights.
I pray to god so he may smite me down so hard that i perish completely.
I pray to Lord Shiva & Lord Hanuman for a divine judgement of terrifying power that will wipe me out along with all my suffering and pain. I will then chill in limbo.

Don't think Eve actually cucked Adam lmao, they were the only 2 humans that existed. But there is lots of other simp soy males in the bible.

 

[Billowel]

Jesus wasn't married, think about that.

funny that you say that.In the catholic church a celibate life is seen as superior to married life.It is much easier to serve god by being a celibate,so i am not surprising.Requires extreme ammounts of faith and willpower.I envy those who throw away everything for christ.

 

[Copexodius Maximus]

the problem of evil is large and it is what put me away from god for a very long time.i have recommended this video several times and i do so because it is a decent introduction to the problem of evil.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ei0gPoqx_bQ&t=2506s&ab_channel=InspiringPhilosophy


i can't write for shit,so this man has done a much better introduction then i ever could.If you still struggle after that,then tell me your doubts and i will try to anwser.

gigacope tbh. God wouldn't have to make us learn to reject evil if he just made us in a way where we already knew to reject it as that would just be how he made us. Better yet, just not make evil and suffering.

 

[Tenshi]

judging by how things are in this world god being real would be an even worse scenario

we'd be in hands of a very sadistic being

 

[CumCel]

The bible says faith without works is dead me boyo
if interested I can give you the verse

 

[Deleted member 21883]

He didnt own nothing bro. He got cucked by eve and sent to the deepest pits of hell. That is what happens to whiteknights.


I pray to god so he may smite me down so hard that i perish completely.

I pray to Lord Shiva & Lord Hanuman for a divine judgement of terrifying power that will wipe me out along with all my suffering and pain. I will then chill in limbo.

Adam is supposed to be in heaven.

The bible says faith without works is dead me boyo
if interested I can give you the verse

I did the works - saving myself until marriage.

 

[Copexodius Maximus]

Adam is supposed to be in heaven.

I did the works - saving myself until marriage.

Dude, we have to follow the commandments for a reason jfl.
Christian copers who say that faith is all that matters because of Abraham forget that faith only helps do the right works, and not commit evil.

 

[Billowel]

gigacope tbh. God wouldn't have to make us learn to reject evil if he just made us in a way where we already knew to reject it as that would just be how he made us. Better yet, just not make evil and suffering.

catholics believe(and it's something that one can reason) that god gives every man at everytime a chance to not sin.Sin is a personal choice.much can be said as to why adam and eve choose sin over god,when they had so much more then us.

 

[FlamingCel]

Dear Mr. Rabbi Jesus O'Josephsen aka God,
Why exactly should I support your religion when I do not get a wife out of the deal? Why did you give Adam a waifu but not me? Why did you let evil people like fornicators, adulterers, tyrants, and thugs get married but not me? Why do you not promise people who were cheated out of love in this life eventual love in heaven? Why do you ghost us like a 21st century company hiring that gives interviews but never follows up with a response? Why do you let the dumb bully people breed and the smart empathetic people rot alone? What exactly did my parents do that was so great that made them worthy of the life that I have been denied?

Its cuz we live in the land of confusion boyo.Satan made the word upside down.

 

[Deleted member 21883]

Dude, we have to follow the commandments for a reason jfl.
Christian copers who say that faith is all that matters because of Abraham forget that faith only helps do the right works, and not commit evil.

If I don't fornicate God is supposed to let me married. When did I say faith was all that mattered? Having always remained a virgin isn't faith. It is historical tangible reality.

 

[Fat Link]

Matthew 5:45 Then you may be the sons of your Father Who is in heaven. His sun shines on bad people and on good people. He sends rain on those who are right with God and on those who are not right with God.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDcPFLCiqo4

 

[Copexodius Maximus]

catholics believe(and it's something that one can reason) that god gives every man at everytime a chance to not sin.Sin is a personal choice.much can be said as to why adam and eve choose sin over god,when they had so much more then us.

Tbf to our first ancestors Adam and Eve, they literally came into existance as fully formed adults into a world and body they had no clue about, and some strange voice they can't see or comprehend that tells them that he is their creator (if they even knew what that meant).

If the next moment I saw a snake that told me that the voice is lying and that a fruit on some tree will tell you who and what you are, I can understand why our ancestors ate the fruit. Adam and Eve were like innocent new born babies in an adult body and had no clue at all what was going on.

If I don't fornicate God is supposed to let me married. When did I say faith was all that mattered? Having always remained a virgin isn't faith. It is historical tangible reality.

where does it say in the bible if you don't have premaritial sex that God will make sure you get a wife?

Its cuz we live in the land of confusion boyo.Satan made the word upside down.

Satan is just an angel of God made to test humans.

 

[Transcended Trucel]

Who is adam?

judging by how things are in this world god being real would be an even worse scenario

we'd be in hands of a very sadistic being

yeah he would likely be a vile fucked in head deity

 

[Deleted member 21883]

Even if satan has somehow hypnotized your oneitis, what is stopping God from setting things right in heaven and giving incels the opportunity to experience love there?

 

[Deleted member 23981]

> r/athetism

 

[NuclearCel]

Don't think Eve actually cucked Adam lmao, they were the only 2 humans that existed. But there is lots of other simp soy males in the bible.

He resisted the temptation to eat the forbidden fruit and expected his wife to do the same, nope. The bitch jumped straight on that lucifer apple. She may not have cucked him in the literal sense but her betrayal was as good as the cucking that the men in this era have been getting from bitches who love to cheat and betray their SO's.

Adam is supposed to be in heaven.

Thats a huge cope. God probably sent him to hell because he couldnt keep his wife under control.

Just flip the narrative around and say he went to heaven by being a good goy. Now the rest of soys of our era also try to be "nice guys" and lose hard at life, every single one of them.

 

[Copexodius Maximus]

He resisted the temptation to eat the forbidden fruit and expected his wife to do the same, nope. The bitch jumped straight on that lucifer apple. She may not have cucked him in the literal sense but her betrayal was as good as the cucking that the men in this era have been getting from bitches who love to cheat and betray their SO's.


Thats a huge cope. God probably sent him to hell because he couldnt keep his wife under control.

Just flip the narrative around and say he went to heaven by being a good goy. Now the rest of soys of our era also try to be "nice guys" and lose hard at life, every single one of them.

Sent adam to hell because 5 minutes after he came into existance, he listened to his wife who listened a guy who told him to eat a juicy tasty fruit on a tree, despite some voice from the sky telling him not to.

Sounds rigged to me tbh.

 

[dirtykombatcel]

God doesn't exist and the whole story is made up. Stop thinking about a false narrative. The sole reason religion and the bible exist is to keep cucks in line and create a false morality so that we don't just murder each other.

 

[Mecoja]

Because of free will, Adam and Eve supposed to be role models for future generation's. In the old testament God gave rules and instructions how humanity should act and people reject those rules more and more. Its a Godless world, it belongs to Satan now.

 

[Hate_my_life]

I personally feel people who follow religion are some of the most deeply brainwashed bluepilled people on this planet who believe things like 'good things happen to good people

No Christian ever believes that.

 

[mänline]

Dear OP/ @Forum_User_2345. My short response is maybe harsh, certainly not satisfying but truthfully crucial.
Your request is the wrong one. You are on the way to hell and asks about a waifu. Get the important things cleared first.
____________________

Dude, we have to follow the commandments for a reason jfl.

The law is a good thing.
Rom 7:12 So the law is holy, and the commandment is holy and righteous and good.

But it's purpose is not that it brings righteousness to us.
Galatian 3:24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
Galatian 3:11 But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith.
Roman 7:7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.

they literally came into existance as fully formed adults into a world and body they had no clue about, and some strange voice they can't see or comprehend that tells them that he is their creator (if they even knew what that meant).

Maybe, literally, it says God walking in the Garden and A and E hid from the presence of God.
There is no sign of doubt of the godliness of the revelation of God Adam received. At least Adam saw much of God's reality and power: Seeing all the animals God showed him for naming and then later suddenly another human.
I want to get too much in the comical sphere here, but even when I would be fully drugged and get some strange voices which I am confused about - I would still trust them more than some damn speaking snake...

 

[Rambocel]

No god is real and you are an absolute idiot if you believe in one. Full stop. There is no defense for the idea of any god and no god idea is even original.

First cause? We don't know. But the universe existing and having all this time to 'accidentally' create this is more likely than some sentient being 'wanting' it to happen. In fact the former is inevitable and the latter would just be a product of the former but not make any sense.

If there were a god that has sentience like most religious idiots think then he is one hell of an evil piece of shit who deserves no worship of any kind.

 

[geocentristcel]

No god is real and you are an absolute idiot if you believe in one. Full stop. There is no defense for the idea of any god and no god idea is even original.

First cause? We don't know. But the universe existing and having all this time to 'accidentally' create this is more likely than some sentient being 'wanting' it to happen. In fact the former is inevitable and the latter would just be a product of the former but not make any sense.

If there were a god that has sentience like most religious idiots think then he is one hell of an evil piece of shit who deserves no worship of any kind.

Absolutely brainlet tier, this is a prime example of a midwit

 

[Rambocel]

Absolutely brainlet tier, this is a prime example of a midwit

And absolutely no actual response or argument.

 

[Deleted member 22685]

Just read Pascals wager theory

 

[Incline]

Satan > God

 

[NuclearCel]

Sent adam to hell because 5 minutes after he came into existance, he listened to his wife who listened a guy who told him to eat a juicy tasty fruit on a tree, despite some voice from the sky telling him not to.

Sounds rigged to me tbh.

It was over for Adam at the exact chronon that he came into existence. Even tutorial mode couldnt save ChAdam.

 

[Rambocel]

Just read Pascals wager theory

Pascal's wager is so ridiculous......it's on par with the fact that as I typed that it autocorrected to NASCAR. I feel dirty. I don't even live in Burgerland.

Religion destroys any genuine sense of a person a human being can be. It usually does it so fast in fact that it's still mainstream to blindly support the ideal even if you don't care all that much yourself.

 

[Deleted member 22685]

Religion destroys any genuine sense of a person a human being can be.

Really? If it was up to atheists people would act like even bigger animals then they are now, but you want to with a straight face tell me that religion is the problem in this scenario? Look around you for a second.
Also you didn't say why it's ridiculous, because you can't go to a temple every now and then? Because you can't take 5 minutes of your life every day to pray?

 

[Copexodius Maximus]

Dear OP/ @Forum_User_2345. My short response is maybe harsh, certainly not satisfying but truthfully crucial.
Your request is the wrong one. You are on the way to hell and asks about a waifu. Get the important things cleared first.
____________________



The law is a good thing.
Rom 7:12 So the law is holy, and the commandment is holy and righteous and good.

But it's purpose is not that it brings righteousness to us.
Galatian 3:24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
Galatian 3:11 But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith.
Roman 7:7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.


Maybe, literally, it says God walking in the Garden and A and E hid from the presence of God.
There is no sign of doubt of the godliness of the revelation of God Adam received. At least Adam saw much of God's reality and power: Seeing all the animals God showed him for naming and then later suddenly another human.
I want to get too much in the comical sphere here, but even when I would be fully drugged and get some strange voices which I am confused about - I would still trust them more than some damn speaking snake...

Well Adam and Eve were naive, they didn't know actions have consequences, or even cause and effect. And Adam trusting his wife over god kind of makes more sense, trusting a person that is like you over a voice that's coming out of nowhere.

As for God walking with Adam, that's a metaphor for God being so close to Adam, as God himself is not even a physical being.

Even tutorial mode couldnt save ChAdam.

 

[Rambocel]

Really? If it was up to atheists people would act like even bigger animals then they are now, but you want to with a straight face tell me that religion is the problem in this scenario? Look around you for a second.
Also you didn't say why it's ridiculous, because you can't go to a temple every now and then? Because you can't take 5 minutes of your life every day to pray?

It's ridiculous because it assumes Christianity and to a greater extent monotheism deserves any more respect than any of the other ridiculous religious crap humans have made up. Why respect and even fear that to take the wager?

I think religion has it pulled over your eyes too boyo. It says it's good, teaches morals, etc. Etc. The absolute worst people I've ever met are heavily religious. They say everything for APPEARANCE. I've even watched extended family members become infected with religiosity. They went from nice people to raging asshole. All because religion offers easy, simple answers to life. No different than sticking a needle in your arm or bottle in your mouth.

At the absolute best, religion is neutral. But it's rarely that state.

If you have to be afraid of or pay homage to a god to 'do good' then you are not doing authentic good. You are like most people: a fake, hollow, BLUEpilled fucking shell.

 

[Deleted member 22685]

If you have to be afraid of or pay homage to a god to 'do good' then you are not doing authentic good

So the better choice is to not have people do good at all?? Because you would have no real reason as an atheist to help others at all, after all it's a dog eat dog world, no? Chances are you live in a country that is full of atheists, correct? Again i implore you: Look around you and tell me that people are as good or even somehow better then the religious ones.

 

[Rambocel]

So the better choice is to not have people do good at all?? Because you would have no real reason as an atheist to help others at all, after all it's a dog eat dog world, no? Chances are you live in a country that is full of atheists, correct? Again i implore you: Look around you and tell me that people are as good or even somehow better then the religious ones.

No. Your first sentence just assumes people will be like your second sentence. That's not the case. Religion has nothing to do with morality. And when it does, it's because of fear. That involves authoritative compliance and coercion. You are not a good person doing this out of threats. Neither is the threatener by far more either.

Looking around, it's a about neutral. That's why I said that. Most people just lip words about religious ideation anyway. If they were honest, there's be no whoring, no thriving, scheming, etc. Etc. But no. Because of societal bluepilling people still - without a thought - think 'religion good' 'god talk good' yadda yadda. It is absolute bullshit and you have to be a mental CUCK to think otherwise

 

[Deleted member 22685]

Religion has nothing to do with morality

What are you talking about? Atheists literally have no ground to stand on when it comes to morality.

 

[Rambocel]

What are you talking about? Atheists literally have no ground to stand on when it comes to morality.

Religion and morality supposedly associated with it COME FROM MAN.

It's all made up bullshit. It's even more made up that people espouse to it actually follow it.

It's even more made up that any of it has legitimacy. Humans have created and believed in a shit ton of other bullshit before yours.