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Discussion People were waaaaaaay more tolerant of ugly men in the past.

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A lot of incels and black pillers love to trot out the idea that society has always been harsh to ugly men and that in fact we’re more compassionate now that in any other time period before us. That is blatant bullshit. What happens is that these dudes look at media of the past like The Hunchback of Notre Dame or Phantom of the Opera and think that it’s 100% analogous to how they actually treated sub 5 men. You have to understand that back in the day you had to be literally disfigured and mutated to incur the amount of scorn and hate that the average incel today gets. Quasimodo isn’t the average guy who posts on this forum. He’s a one in a million freak who, while being a kind-hearted soul, is not comparable to the vast majority of incels. It’s really only has been in the last 60ish years that men have really been held to any true beauty standards. The issue is that this standard has rapidly been increasing within the years and has be exacerbated by female hypergamy going unchecked and the internet connecting every woman to Chad. Realize this is a new phenomenon and stop trying to to justify your enslavement.
 
People wouldn’t be tolerant of me even way back then
 
True it’s gotten way worse overtime incels were a even smaller minority before the 60s obviously.
 
Yeah it didn't matter much because feminism wasn't prominent. If you were a peasant, though, it might have been worse
 
toilets got beaten senseless back then for stepping out of line, we need to go back to that
 
Yeah it didn't matter much because feminism wasn't prominent. If you were a peasant, though, it might have been worse
The average peasant, who was an ugly retard by today’s standards, easily was able to get a wife. Men before the 1900s were only really graded on their utility. Not their looks.
 
The average peasant, who was an ugly retard by today’s standards, easily was able to get a wife. Men before the 1900s were only really graded on their utility. Not their looks.
May be true.
 
The average peasant, who was an ugly retard by today’s standards, easily was able to get a wife. Men before the 1900s were only really graded on their utility. Not their looks.
You're right.
 
Society used to respect the feelings and humanity of men but not really anymore.

It seems very skewed in favour of women now and inevitably unattractive men will get hit worse than the ones they really fancy.
 
You're not wrong, looks only became this important for men after the sexual revolution and second wave feminism
 
It’s certainly a more recent phenomenon, life was better for the average man when women were subjugated.
 
You have to understand that back in the day you had to be literally disfigured and mutated to incur the amount of scorn and hate that the average incel today gets.
True
Even back then guys like the Elephant Man who, despite being completely sub5, received a bit of love. Meanwhile your average sub5 nowadays gets treated like a leper dog
 
Social media and phone cameras / cameras where a mistake . The Internet without these would be fine and woman would be less insufferable .
 
A lot of incels and black pillers love to trot out the idea that society has always been harsh to ugly men and that in fact we’re more compassionate now that in any other time period before us. That is blatant bullshit. What happens is that these dudes look at media of the past like The Hunchback of Notre Dame or Phantom of the Opera and think that it’s 100% analogous to how they actually treated sub 5 men. You have to understand that back in the day you had to be literally disfigured and mutated to incur the amount of scorn and hate that the average incel today gets. Quasimodo isn’t the average guy who posts on this forum. He’s a one in a million freak who, while being a kind-hearted soul, is not comparable to the vast majority of incels. It’s really only has been in the last 60ish years that men have really been held to any true beauty standards. The issue is that this standard has rapidly been increasing within the years and has be exacerbated by female hypergamy going unchecked and the internet connecting every woman to Chad. Realize this is a new phenomenon and stop trying to to justify your enslavement.
That’s what i’m saying. It’s gotten worse for incels over the years. I don’t remember people being so angry at me for being ugly this badly compared to back then.
 
The average peasant, who was an ugly retard by today’s standards,
So was everyone else at the time though, basically everyone was a malnourished dwarf then. Doesn't mean they didn't differ in their looks despite that.

easily was able to get a wife.
How many did so, then:waitwhat:?

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I've never thought about this much, but it's pretty funny how we just automatically imagine that everyone in the past married and had children because a) feminists cry about the supposed "oppression" of not being as easily able to live without men then as they can now, and b) everyone who didn't reproduce then is completely forgotten now, having left no descendants or legacies.
 
People wouldn’t be tolerant of me even way back then
Over:feelsbadman:.

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Back then, it was about survival, looks were secondary + hypergamy wasn't this big.
Now when we live in basically utopia (that's why a lot of you are able to NEET) when it is easy to stay alive, looks becomes no1.
 
Back then, it was about survival, looks were secondary + hypergamy wasn't this big.
Now when we live in basically utopia (that's why a lot of you are able to NEET) when it is easy to stay alive, looks becomes no1.
This.

I would argue in previous generations people were a lot more physically violent towards ugly men (and justice more physically violent in general) but if you were competent and strong you could obviously get away with being ugly and you wouldn't get filtered out through social media etc.

The stereotype is that an ugly boomer male might get his head shoved in the toilet and get beaten up for being ugly in a way that an ugly zoomer wouldn't, but simultaneously the ugly boomer could still get an ugly wife. I think the stereotype is mostly true here.
 
I dont know brother, humans were always humans.
 
This.

I would argue in previous generations people were a lot more physically violent towards ugly men (and justice more physically violent in general) but if you were competent and strong you could obviously get away with being ugly and you wouldn't get filtered out through social media etc.

The stereotype is that an ugly boomer male might get his head shoved in the toilet and get beaten up for being ugly in a way that an ugly zoomer wouldn't, but simultaneously the ugly boomer could still get an ugly wife. I think the stereotype is mostly true here.
Or even a wife that was above his looks match honestly. Again female beauty standards were actually extremely and strictly enforced back then so did end up with the sitcom dynamic of ugly husbands with hot wives. If you ever check old photos of your grandparents you’ll see this reflected most likely.
 
Looks inflation/hypergamy has been pushing it for years, deadass think by 2030 most Men will be deemed ugly and short.
 
Or even a wife that was above his looks match honestly. Again female beauty standards were actually extremely and strictly enforced back then so did end up with the sitcom dynamic of ugly husbands with hot wives. If you ever check old photos of your grandparents you’ll see this reflected most likely.
I still see this trope a lot IRL with ugly successful men, especially ones in STEM. it's just the labor force niche for ugly men is a lot smaller nowadays
 
Of cours, most guy here would already been married by 22 years old back in the days and in ANY country.

It was the norm, women now have so much option they actually see us like quasimodo or at least get the same feel
 
It's because of social media and TV causing people to see chads and htns much more often
 
sadly the internet accelerated chad chasing and really society in general. it has it's upsides but way more downsides imo
 
Yes, social media has made this, like everything else, worse.
 
Even 20 years ago things didn’t seem this bad. But, still bad compared to the era you’re referencing, it seems
Social media (including dating apps) really accelerated everything
 
Even 20 years ago things didn’t seem this bad. But, still bad compared to the era you’re referencing, it seems
Social media (including dating apps) really accelerated everything
i was going to say this ye it ruined people’s perception and made them more cruel
 

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