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In my experience, most of the hostility to incels comes down to a refusal to admit that sometimes, willpower doesn't work, sometimes, free will doesn't enter the picture; that sometimes people are screwed whatever they try to do; that sometimes, even with the best you can deliver, you'll at best end up in a bad situation instead of an awful one.
It's one thing to admit that life is sometimes unfair (eg for kids born with rare genetic or congenital disorders), it's another thing entirely to admit that life is *often* unfair. That many people are born with all sorts of privileges they're not even aware of, while many other people are born with all sorts of defects and deprivations that are often not even recognized by exterior actors, and can insidiously, through decreased confidence or mental disorders like depression, mechanically decrease the very willpower they're supposed to use to crawl out of their bad station in life, until it is sometimes too late to reverse a bad trajectory.
The disadvantage that is physical ugliness is rarely acknowledged, way more rarely than poverty even though it's in fact worse. In fact, nearly every disadvantage you can think of is worse than poverty. Lacking money can always have a solution as long as you're healthy physically and mentally. You can always get hired somewhere. There is no solution to ugliness except plastic surgery (something most ugly people cannot finance until it's too late to matter). Sometimes there is also no medical solution to disorders like depression, autism, anxiety, etc that often come with ugliness.
Incels are unsettling because they are yet another "victim group" in a world that already has too many (gays, blacks, immigrants, the poor, etc). A victim group that elicits compassion fatigue. Liberal guilt, it seems, stops when ugliness enters the picture. Maybe incels are simply too early in their rebellion against Nature and Fate; maybe they should wait in silence for the next stage in liberal guilt. Remember that the gays had to wait until the 1980s to stop being victimized.
It's one thing to admit that life is sometimes unfair (eg for kids born with rare genetic or congenital disorders), it's another thing entirely to admit that life is *often* unfair. That many people are born with all sorts of privileges they're not even aware of, while many other people are born with all sorts of defects and deprivations that are often not even recognized by exterior actors, and can insidiously, through decreased confidence or mental disorders like depression, mechanically decrease the very willpower they're supposed to use to crawl out of their bad station in life, until it is sometimes too late to reverse a bad trajectory.
The disadvantage that is physical ugliness is rarely acknowledged, way more rarely than poverty even though it's in fact worse. In fact, nearly every disadvantage you can think of is worse than poverty. Lacking money can always have a solution as long as you're healthy physically and mentally. You can always get hired somewhere. There is no solution to ugliness except plastic surgery (something most ugly people cannot finance until it's too late to matter). Sometimes there is also no medical solution to disorders like depression, autism, anxiety, etc that often come with ugliness.
Incels are unsettling because they are yet another "victim group" in a world that already has too many (gays, blacks, immigrants, the poor, etc). A victim group that elicits compassion fatigue. Liberal guilt, it seems, stops when ugliness enters the picture. Maybe incels are simply too early in their rebellion against Nature and Fate; maybe they should wait in silence for the next stage in liberal guilt. Remember that the gays had to wait until the 1980s to stop being victimized.