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Our problem is logic and reason

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I'm saying it as it is, we overthink the problem. Chad thinks "girls like muscles" and he gets muscles.
We think: "girls like muscles but some also have boyfriends without muscles so I'll try to get by with less effort"

boom baby, you just took yourself out. All with logic. Logic and reason should be our enemies, we shouldn't rely on them anymore.
Would it be reasonable to have a young wife as a young man? Yes, it would be. But life isn't reasonable.
So in order to compete, we should do whatever it takes without accepting reasonable, logical attempts to detract us from our goals.

Examples of hostile logic:

1. "you dont really need money to get a gf" <--technically true for most people
2. "needing another person to be happy is wrong" <--would be nice if it were true, probably true for many who dont lack sex
3. "a sixpack is not required to get a hot gf" <-- true for most people
4. "being 2x years old is still young" <-- technically true in most ways

Do you see the problem? All the points made are logical and reasonable, true for most of society.
Some blackpilled people here call it 'cope'. But in reality they are hostile logic designed by the enemy to attack us and destroy our lives. They are designed to kill us with poison. People from another universe who dont need money because they already have it are telling us that money isn't essential to a happy life.
We should not put this down as a simple misunderstanding, it is a violent psychological attack on our lives. If we believe it, we lose.
 
well i cant logic so im ok
 
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that's how Chad thinks and he succeeds. He doesnt think about anything except earning money and getting ripped.
 
so what you're saying is...be a chad or shut up?View attachment 12049

yes, I'm sorry that I have to burst the collective bluepill bubble but it turns out that obsessively thinking about topics that dont have immediate real life results is counterproductive and bad for you.
I used to justify my obsession because I was trying to be a good person and understand people and get to the truth. Well the truth is that the world is a brutal sexual market and people are really really stupid and they will talk out of their ass without ever budging on any of what they say even though they have no clue. The truth is that you need to reject everything in the world that doesnt result in immediate real life success as a communist satanic lie designed to kill you. Because you know what, that's what it is. Who benefits from you not having a happy successful life? Only a satanist commie would, it helps absolutely nobody to have us as enemies.
 
yes, I'm sorry that I have to burst the collective bluepill bubble but it turns out that obsessively thinking about topics that dont have immediate real life results is counterproductive and bad for you.
I used to justify my obsession because I was trying to be a good person and understand people and get to the truth. Well the truth is that the world is a brutal sexual market and people are really really stupid and they will talk out of their ass without ever budging on any of what they say even though they have no clue. The truth is that you need to reject everything in the world that doesnt result in immediate real life success as a communist satanic lie designed to kill you. Because you know what, that's what it is. Who benefits from you not having a happy successful life? Only a satanist commie would, it helps absolutely nobody to have us as enemies.
Oh you mean I get to choose if I have a happy life or not? Well, geez - that's great!

Hey, do other miserable people have that option too?! Spread the word everybody - if you're miserable just be happy!
 
where did I say anything about you choosing a happy life? I said you should choose to live like Chad, thinking about nothing other than things that are immediately helpful instead of theoretical constructs
 
I'm saying it as it is, we overthink the problem. Chad thinks "girls like muscles" and he gets muscles.
We think: "girls like muscles but some also have boyfriends without muscles so I'll try to get by with less effort"
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Why the hell do you think none of us have muscles or have worked-out?!? Why do you think we've used less effort?!?! Wait...I know the answer!

YOU ARE A----
 
where did I say anything about you choosing a happy life? I said you should choose to live like Chad, thinking about nothing other than things that are immediately helpful instead of theoretical constructs
Let me try to make sense of this rambling mess of words you think will confuse us into thinking you are...
yes, I'm sorry that I have to burst the collective bluepill bubble but it turns out that obsessively thinking about topics that dont have immediate real life results is counterproductive and bad for you.
I used to justify my obsession because I was trying to be a good person and understand people and get to the truth. Well the truth is that the world is a brutal sexual market and people are really really stupid and they will talk out of their ass without ever budging on any of what they say even though they have no clue. The truth is that you need to reject everything in the world that doesnt result in immediate real life success as a communist satanic lie designed to kill you. Because you know what, that's what it is. Who benefits from you not having a happy successful life? Only a satanist commie would, it helps absolutely nobody to have us as enemies.

In other words - accept a life on the low end of the totem pole. Just don't worry about all the shit you're missing out on.
 
because that's how every TFL incel on YouTube looks. They dont look like they work out, they are slightly chubby. I myself could probably work out harder too. That's why
 
Let me try to make sense of this rambling mess of words you think will confuse us into thinking you are...


In other words - accept a life on the low end of the totem pole. Just don't worry about it about all the shit you're missing out on.

I didnt say anything about accepting your life, I said the exact opposite. I said that we should reject society and the world completely and only care about our own success just like Chad is doing all his life and not caring about us at all.
 
I didnt say anything about accepting your life, I said the exact opposite. I said that we should reject society and the world completely and only care about our own success just like Chad is doing all his life and not caring about us at all.
Dear god you are delusional. I don't know which youtube incels you are watching, but I can't imagine they represent the majority.

Reject the world around you for the world to stop rejecting you? Uhhhh.... That's ridiculously stupid. No one does anything other than eat shit piss and sleep if not to appease the world around them.
 
Reject the world around you for the world to stop rejecting you?

yep. You still think like a bluepilled person, as if anything that this society does makes sense. They say one thing but mean another and then do something entirely different.

They put billboards with sixpack men up but they also say that sixpacks are absolutely not required to get a gf. So what do you believe? It's time to reject what they say and follow what they actually believe, which is that sixpack and money is absolutely required. You can keep believing that you dont need to be a millionaire to get a gf, I choose to reject that worldly logic and from now on I'm going to keep rejecting it forever. I do not want to hear anything anymore about how great my life could be but ohhh I just need to talk to women and then it will all work out.
Bullshit. A million dollars is what I need and if you reject that then you embrace the logic of society who wants to cuck you and make you crawl around like a worm, begging for food and work like a dog.
 
It's time to reject what they say and follow what they actually believe, which is that sixpack and money is absolutely required. You can keep believing that you dont need to be a millionaire to get a gf, I choose to reject that worldly logic and from now on I'm going to keep rejecting it forever. g.
Look, if you really are the person you say you are, go for the whole rich guy with six-pack abs thing. All I'm trying to express is that you have not found the answer. You can have all the money and muscles in the world, and women may still reject you. You can't force someone to be sexually attracted to you.

Yes, many of the people here got themselves in great shape. And, they will tell you, it made no difference. Maybe it'll work for you, as I'm sure it does for some people. But spouting advice like you know what's up is insulting to all the people who've gone through everything you are advising.
 
Logic and reason drove the incel community(before it was a community) to realize the problem is looks, with an emphasis on face as the gatekeeper, build as the filter.

In the formal definition of reasoning, logic and probability are the main tools.
 
at first look is rigth

incels lack flexibility in their views

they want to believe there will never be hope,o they can feel justified and released of pressure

qouting a reply i made in 4chan

>Do you think incels have outlets to help themselves and they choose not to, or is it more complicated?

it depend how much unlikable you are and how your environment is

charisma,looks and status (power,money,reputation)

that tree things help you to get social life and sexual/romantic interactions

love and sex isnt something somebody is entitled to give or get,but rather a lotery when some traits make more probable for you to win than the others

first rule:

-people are atracted to interesting people,no good or bad people

i mean personalitie matter at long terms relations so they are stable and healthy,but for short/middle term and flirt?,well is imposible to know someone personalitie at first look,so if personalitie isnt what caught or attention at first to fall in love with someone,then what is?

well ,something interesting yet superficial and easy to spot
your reputation,the confidence you have,your apareance etc
depending of the person and culture some traits will be more important than others
(for example in south america money and charisma/abilitie of talking and good sexual abilities,are better than looks alone)

so there is some people more interesting than others,for that reasons for some people is easier to get sex and love,and for others they gotta do more work to get it

the scale is this (from the more interesting and more lucky when it come to se and dates,to inceldom)

chad: a ninckname to refer to,the sucesfull incredible handsome and interesting guy (money,looks,charisma,reputation etc,this guy have born with or/and develop all kinds of positive and attractive traits,until the point he have a ''halo'' arounf him that attract people to him)

chadlite:a person above average,yet they arent unconciuslly and pasivelly atractive and interesting as chads,so they still have to work to get partner and love

normie/normal:average person,with average skills and traits,a lot of their chances of getting love depend of a relative balanced mix of hard work and luck

incel: person with natural negative traits and/or bad enviroment,so they dont fit in social standars of what is ''interesting'' or ''attractive'' ,so they have a lot of problem getting social and sex relations

so depending of how strong are their negative traits,and how their enviroment (culture,economy,average interests) around them they can improve or be fucked

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so as you can depending of society and culture,plus the incel natural traits he can improve or get worse

your advice is truth but for normies

''a lot of their chances of getting love depend of a relative balanced mix of hard work and luck''

but we incels are under average and hard trying just make us normies at best

second errors of incedom thinking:

asuming everything in terms of absolute traits:

example: if you arent/dont have ''hyperspecific trait'' its over

as you can see some traits can be more or less important depending the culture
and beaty isnt abut specific traits but average beaty beetwen diferent traits

at least for normies and chadlites

i mean,youu can have a 20 m cock (8 inches 2,5/2,2 cm=one inch) but being a skyni fat or having a ugly face that ruin that

so is more a average beetwen beaty with some traits being more important than others depending the culture and person
 
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Look, if you really are the person you say you are, go for the whole rich guy with six-pack abs thing. All I'm trying to express is that you have not found the answer. You can have all the money and muscles in the world, and women may still reject you. You can't force someone to be sexually attracted to you.

Yes, many of the people here got themselves in great shape. And, they will tell you, it made no difference. Maybe it'll work for you, as I'm sure it does for some people. But spouting advice like you know what's up is insulting to all the people who've gone through everything you are advising.
Okay, I'm sorry if it didnt work out for them but then maybe money was the missing factor. I believe money is even more important than a sixpack body. I fully embrace the blackpill. It is totally liberating. And the blackpill is telling me that I need to stop giving a shit about anything that society is trying to force down my throat, including that life without money is okay.
 
Okay, I'm sorry if it didnt work out for them but then maybe money was the missing factor. I believe money is even more important than a sixpack body. I fully embrace the blackpill. It is totally liberating. And the blackpill is telling me that I need to stop giving a shit about anything that society is trying to force down my throat, including that life without money is okay.
How are you going to get all this money? I am really curious.
 
lol man, you never even thought about ways to get money? Wake the fuck up and get to work, Chad is thinking about this every day of his life. This is exactly what I'm talking about, we incels have the bluepill in our fucking bones. Holy shit
 
well my asnwer explain why sometimes money can be more important than lokks or the otherway
and why even having this ''handsome traits'' yu can still being a incel

lol man, you never even thought about ways to get money? Wake the fuck up and get to work, Chad is thinking about this every day of his life. This is exactly what I'm talking about, we incels have the bluepill in our fucking bones. Holy shit

Look, if you really are the person you say you are, go for the whole rich guy with six-pack abs thing. All I'm trying to express is that you have not found the answer. You can have all the money and muscles in the world, and women may still reject you. You can't force someone to be sexually attracted to you.

Yes, many of the people here got themselves in great shape. And, they will tell you, it made no difference. Maybe it'll work for you, as I'm sure it does for some people. But spouting advice like you know what's up is insulting to all the people who've gone through everything you are advising.




at first look is rigth

incels lack flexibility in their views

they want to believe there will never be hope,o they can feel justified and released of pressure

qouting a reply i made in 4chan

>Do you think incels have outlets to help themselves and they choose not to, or is it more complicated?

it depend how much unlikable you are and how your environment is

charisma,looks and status (power,money,reputation)

that tree things help you to get social life and sexual/romantic interactions

love and sex isnt something somebody is entitled to give or get,but rather a lotery when some traits make more probable for you to win than the others

first rule:

-people are atracted to interesting people,no good or bad people

i mean personalitie matter at long terms relations so they are stable and healthy,but for short/middle term and flirt?,well is imposible to know someone personalitie at first look,so if personalitie isnt what caught or attention at first to fall in love with someone,then what is?

well ,something interesting yet superficial and easy to spot
your reputation,the confidence you have,your apareance etc
depending of the person and culture some traits will be more important than others
(for example in south america money and charisma/abilitie of talking and good sexual abilities,are better than looks alone)

so there is some people more interesting than others,for that reasons for some people is easier to get sex and love,and for others they gotta do more work to get it

the scale is this (from the more interesting and more lucky when it come to se and dates,to inceldom)

chad: a ninckname to refer to,the sucesfull incredible handsome and interesting guy (money,looks,charisma,reputation etc,this guy have born with or/and develop all kinds of positive and attractive traits,until the point he have a ''halo'' arounf him that attract people to him)

chadlite:a person above average,yet they arent unconciuslly and pasivelly atractive and interesting as chads,so they still have to work to get partner and love

normie/normal:average person,with average skills and traits,a lot of their chances of getting love depend of a relative balanced mix of hard work and luck

incel: person with natural negative traits and/or bad enviroment,so they dont fit in social standars of what is ''interesting'' or ''attractive'' ,so they have a lot of problem getting social and sex relations

so depending of how strong are their negative traits,and how their enviroment (culture,economy,average interests) around them they can improve or be fucked

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

so as you can depending of society and culture,plus the incel natural traits he can improve or get worse

your advice is truth but for normies

''a lot of their chances of getting love depend of a relative balanced mix of hard work and luck''

but we incels are under average and hard trying just make us normies at best

second errors of incedom thinking:

asuming everything in terms of absolute traits:

example: if you arent/dont have ''hyperspecific trait'' its over

as you can see some traits can be more or less important depending the culture
and beaty isnt abut specific traits but average beaty beetwen diferent traits

at least for normies and chadlites

i mean,youu can have a 20 m cock (8 inches 2,5/2,2 cm=one inch) but being a skyni fat or having a ugly face that ruin that

so is more a average beetwen beaty with some traits being more important than others depending the culture and person
 
lol man, you never even thought about ways to get money? Wake the fuck up and get to work, Chad is thinking about this every day of his life. This is exactly what I'm talking about, we incels have the bluepill in our fucking bones. Holy shit
I mean an amount of money that would impress a woman enough to fuck you. You don't get that working at dairy queen.
 
Yeah I agree. It is guaranteed that a Chad would get pussy, a non-Chad might get it in rare cases but this doesn't make it the rule. So a Chad-lite is clever and target oriented. He is aware that his face is good enough and he is tall. Only missing thing is muscles. Then he works out and goes from 7 to 9.
 

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