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How many are actually blue pilled incels in denial?
You can easily guess it's most of them. That doesn't matter if they don't know the truth. They'll still fight for the same cause under some other form of slogan, such as "anti-degeneracy" or whatever cope you need.
The graph went fast upwards around the same time tinder first came out, I wonder why...
And these are the guys who are reporting it, you know some women are lying about being sexless.
That chart is the legit result of hypergamy lmao
If you look even further back, notice some of those spikes. Things like rap were getting more popular, internet usage went up, social media was starting out.
Degeneracy got more popular...
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can you believe pua started all this? from pua to antifeminism/mra to white nationalism to beta uprising. strange times indeed. mystery might be treated like a god in the future.
Ross Jeffries is my God, PUA came from his NLP routines.
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but all he did was hypnotize women. mystery came up with the theories like peacockin and neggin.
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my first thought too but considering tinder came out in 2012 the rise was already in full motion. Its probably more about social media in general than just tinder
Ironically Hypermgamy makes our numbers stronger
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Armoured assault has begun
Lifefuel. Females will pay for what they've done.
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Im just glad to hear I'm not alone
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Holy shit read the whole discussion. It's all legit analysis. And done by legit people. I recognize some of the people in the discussion as political commentators.
14% male incel rate in 2016.
That is waaaaay more than I expected. I thought we were the bottom 2%.
This is the best definitive proof of hypergamy since Tinder. It is also the best explanation for how white incels can even exist. When the incel rate starts creeping up around 15%+ (which it likely is now) it becomes inevitable that even the previously easy mode guys (like whites) will start being affected.
What is the ceiling? Where will this level out? I'm guessing it will level around 20-30%.
How will society react to proof that we are right and hypergamy is a growing destructive societal force?
This is wild.
so even the amended graph shows female celibacy on the down and male celibacy climbing.
Our incel brothers truly are growing.
Our incel brothers truly are growing.
also anybody know what happened in 2008 that made females even more whorelike and hypergamous?
thats when the spike of us incels started climbing a lot.
thats when the spike of us incels started climbing a lot.
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lmao
The blackpill must be spread.
You just need to look at japan. That's what the future will be like for the rest of the world. Japan is just ahead of its time.
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2002-2003 was the time to be alive
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I think this graph is interesting too because 2005 is when i got into PUA stuff and cold approach and overall i found women didn't like me for being short/ethnic/ugly but they were somewhat open-minded in a higher than expected percent. The few times I've tried recently it's been much more brutal.
The celibacy rates for men and women were much closer back in 2005 than now, indicating women weren't shunning as many of us back then.
Lastly i find this graph reassuring because it tells me i'm in the bottom 15% attractiveness and not necessarily the bottom 2-3% as i previously assumed was required to be incel.
The celibacy rates for men and women were much closer back in 2005 than now, indicating women weren't shunning as many of us back then.
Lastly i find this graph reassuring because it tells me i'm in the bottom 15% attractiveness and not necessarily the bottom 2-3% as i previously assumed was required to be incel.
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The Japanese are a more docile and nonviolent breed than the rest of mankind. Most men will not go so quietly into inceldom.
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nice meme.
It makes me feel better that there's a lot of other incels out there. At least I'm not the only one.
This is most likely due to the financial crisis of 2007-2008.
To respond to the OP, this should NOT be [LifeFuel], it pains me to see many other men like myself going through the excruciating psychological pain of being left alone, without love and sex, and many other necessities. If this trend continues, we will see more and more pain and suffering on both the sides of Normies and Incels. And worst of all, I can see Normies potentially putting Incels in concentration camps to suppress us.
how am i not surprised it relate to money, females are fucking magpies just looking to see what they can get from the most high status / wealthy man. Its ovER for poorcels like myself.
You really think millions of males will let themselves get enslaved? Few of us have anything to lose. Just like ER did, so do I, I believe in all Incels. One day, when you all realize your numbers, you'll change this world forever. I know that it's easy to say the famous words. It's over. But it's not. There's always a little bit of hope and you all know it. You all have it. We all have it. We just need a spark. It might take a long time, but it will happen.
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I think Ross Douthat and Robin Hanson were right - our answer will come in legalized prostitution and better sex dolls.
Once incelibacy rates break 20% for men (at this rate <5 years) it will have become such a common condition that society will have to adapt.
Capitalist market forces will naturally drive toward a solution. Regulated prostitution will not only seem like good policy from a taxation perspective, it will also seem more humane, as we see more cases of men going crazy from a lack of female affection.
Furthermore, when 1/5 men can't get sex from biological females, this will represent an absolutely ENORMOUS untapped market for sex doll manufacturers to fill. If you are selling a product that 1/5 men (and growing) need and can't live with out, you are starting from a very good point.
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The vast majority of male virgins are blue-pilled cucks.
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They will learn, in time. Once they try getting a haircut, going to the gym, learning guitar, and getting female friends, but still find themselves unable to get sex, they will start searching online for "why" and we will be here to explain it to them.
20/60/20 rule
Top 20% of men get 80% of the pussy, next 60% of men get 20% of the pussy, bottom 20% get no pussy.
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They forgot to include the escortcels, and the beta cucks who only get sex once a year, and the average looking men having sex with landwhales way below their smv. If they included those it would go from 14% to 90%.
Would you mind linking something to illuminate the background here? I was sure yesterday that this was a joke (0% of holes 18-35 are celibate while male rates are in a surge straight to 100%; looks like deliberate hyperbole with which to mock hypergamy), but I've seen more and more people mention these statistics. Absolutely astonishing! Aside from the advantage of mass these trends give us, it also makes my own condition seem that much less dire, as, by the time I went off to college, Tinder was already extant. I don't mean to sound like a cunt, but I'm in the 95th percentile of most nominally desirable traits; I always found it maddening, then, that I was shoved down to the 1st percentile of human experience.
This penury is going to consume many men in little time. I grow more and more hopeful that something's going to break soon.
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This exactly. Very few men are succeeding in this climate.
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You can read a great deal of the methodology and debates by digging into the full Twitter conversation:
In short, the data was analyzed from the NORC GSS "General Social Survey" which is apparently one of the longest running surveys which encompasses sexual activity trends:
http://www.norc.org/Research/Projects/Pages/general-social-survey.aspx
The most disturbing thing about the graph is that the line of male celibacy shows no signs of leveling off, which would suggest we're nowhere near the maximum effect of this phenomenon.
I am guessing we are now as of 2018 at a >15% male celibacy rate, and that in the next 5 years it will level off somewhere between 20% and 30%.
I'd be surprised if more than 10% of men were getting sex on a regular basis with femoids around their looksmatch or above.
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He says the top 20% of men have 50-60% of the sex, and this is a relatively constant percentage over time.
So at least since around 1990, Chads are having more than half of all sex in the population. The remaining 40-50% of sex is then distributed among the lesser men until you now get to the bottom 15% who can have no sex at all (ie. incels).
The fact that there's no appreciable change in the amount of sex top tier Chads are having more reflects the fact that women are redistributing their sex evenly upwards, ie. to all available non-Incel men. Almost certainly there would be a preferential redistribution towards the Chaddest men, but if the skew is mild it would not be statistically significant.
ie. This is what's happening, only with ~15% of men being sexless rather than what this diagram would imply:
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I am praying incel rates rise to more than 50% of males within the next decade, every single bluepilled normie should experience this so they can understand the cruel nature of females and support our cause. Ideally the end game is females losing all rights and becoming property. But before that there should be a huge spike in crimes and rampages, and beta males taking what they desire. And hopefully men who are tasked with protecting females and maintaining order look the other way and join in on the mayhem and carnage.
Ah, thanks. The unchecked growth of male dispossession, though, actually leaves me hopeful. The preponderance of bluepilled pussies we see among incels now will likely give way to serious anger and determination as our numbers rise to the level of being able to offer autonomous, extrasocial structure. A lot of men debase themselves now because they, understandably, see themselves alone and enervated. Once they find themselves able to stand alongside their brothers against the cruel spectre of the social Kegel vise, they will find fulfilment for maybe the first time in their lives.
Our main obstacle is apostasy. When a cunt offers sex to cripple our momentum, who'll be blackpilled enough to remain unwavering in their dedication? This is the man our epoch needs and the man we must create.
That was in the 90's before dating sites, twitter, and third wave slut pride feminism. The men who are sexually unsuccessful today and in the passed 10 years are at least 85-90% of men. Only 10-15% of men are able to have regular sex with femoids they are close to in looksmatch.
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I agree the unchecked growth of male celibacy is both good and bad. It's bad because it shows how cruel female mate selection is. It's good because we are reaching a critical mass. Once we hit 20%+ no one will be able to lie about us or ignore us. And there will no longer be any shame in saying, "Yes, I am incel, and no that is not okay."
There will come a time when some women offer incels pity sex, or some women become so tired of sharing attractive men they become willing to give a few of our higher ranking members a try. This is inevitable and shouldn't be pushed down. This is how an equilibrium is established.
You don't have to worry about that. The sheer massive scale of the male celibacy that women are creating will dwarf any other effects.
A lot of guys probably don't even realize they're incel yet. They probably just think they're hitting a dry spell or not trying that hard. It may take them 1-3 years of failure to realize something has changed. So there will be a slight lag.
It's astonishing to see that male's celibacy skyrocket in 2011-2012 whereas things were a lot more equal in the 2003-2010.
On the other hand, the 90's weren't as good as the 2000's for men (the culture was insular and misandrist because of 3rd wave feminism, Internet,etc..)
It goes to show you that my point on Inceldom being a vast phenomenon belonging to the smartphone-tinder-lgtbg-4th wave feminism-general mediocrity of the 2012-now era. Your average female is now dating her own smartphone and ignores while her average male counterpart goes unnoticed/ignored.
80 % of users wouldn't be here (except truehardcorecels) if this site had existed 10-15 years ago.
On the other hand, the 90's weren't as good as the 2000's for men (the culture was insular and misandrist because of 3rd wave feminism, Internet,etc..)
It goes to show you that my point on Inceldom being a vast phenomenon belonging to the smartphone-tinder-lgtbg-4th wave feminism-general mediocrity of the 2012-now era. Your average female is now dating her own smartphone and ignores while her average male counterpart goes unnoticed/ignored.
80 % of users wouldn't be here (except truehardcorecels) if this site had existed 10-15 years ago.
I really don't want to give the phones and the internet the fault for femoids being like this.
But you can clearly see it's bcz of the internet population, like facebook, snapchat and instragram.
I would like to know what the diagram says, if there wasn't the internet or even touch mobile.
But you can clearly see it's bcz of the internet population, like facebook, snapchat and instragram.
I would like to know what the diagram says, if there wasn't the internet or even touch mobile.
Yeah, there's a certain lamentable, "why does it have to be this way" aspect to it all, but these conditions could not arise if not for both the overdetermined technological apparatus of modernity and the inveterate venality of slutcunts. If anything, the present structure of society has allowed us to peer beneath the diaphanous play of courtship, to then gaze upon the bloody and rusted gears animating the whole machine. As regrettable as this state of affairs is, it at least reminds us potently who our enemies are.
This too, inspires hope. The difference between 3% to 15% and 15% to 30% will be absolutely levelling. Where up to now we still run into issues with convincing people to regurgitate the bluepill, we will see unleashed a reservior of cryptic incels once the issue acquires the inevitable visibility in the bugspace (How many times can you read op-eds demanding your death and remain unmoved to defection? How long can you reject the firm, determined hands offered by your brothers, growing in number every day, in the common fight against the rats?)
I would anticipate this as an attempt to decapitate any organization that may develop. The "pharmacological" efficacy of a blackpill is a measure of its ability to produce the mentality of a chad behind the face of a truecel. Bitches ain't shit, fuck 'em and forget 'em. This will be necessary to prevent desertion and, ideally, would make the prospect of settling for a simple reestablishment of equilibrium roundly distasteful. I couldn't be happier than if everything just collapsed.
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