Blackpill Our actions are being influenced by government law and policy. We are being controlled.

[IncelKing]

In a world of anarchy, you wouldn’t hesitate to kill someone and take their resources from them, but knowing that you will be sentenced to death or life imprisonment is the reason you don’t commit murder

likewise, in an anarchical world you wouldn’t hesitate to rape a woman if you were sexually unsatisfied for an extended period of time, but once again knowing that you will spend years in prison is what stops you from committing rape.

we like to think that we are in control of our decision-making when it comes to what actions we perform in the real world, but the truth is that the actions we choose to perform are being influenced by a reward and punishment system put in place by the government, incentivising us to perform actions for which there is a reward and discouraging us from performing actions for which there is a punishment, this system is literally influencing human behaviour in the real world. whether we realise it or not we are being controlled!

we are just a bunch of puppets who think that we are fully in control of our choices and actions, but we are being influenced by a man-made set of external factors and variables known as “law”.

It’s easy to think that you’re not committing rape and murder because you’re a good and moral person, rather than the fact that you aren’t doing said acts because subconsciously you know that you will be punished for doing so.

The existence of the legal system makes it convenient for people to believe in the illusion that they are law-abiding citizens only because they are good and moral people.

The reason that humans are civilised is not because they are moral creatures, they are civilised because they are being controlled by the legal system. Without such a system in place, most people would forget morality, they would show their true colours and would resort to crime to get what they want.

the reason we need a legal system to control us is because human beings are really just a bunch of animals. We need a source of authority to dictate our behaviour and to control our animalistic impulses. Without law, human beings would be no different to the animals in the jungle, we’d be at each other’s throats all the time and follow the principle of “might makes right” in a world devoid of the man-made concept of “justice”.

 

[Rhaast]

Water is very wet

 

[FrothySolutions]

What? I wouldn't rape or murder even if it was legal.

 

[Rhaast]

What? I wouldn't rape or murder even if it was legal.

Post like the FBI is watching.

 

[BaffleTrot]

It’s easy to think that you’re not committing rape and murder because you’re a good and moral person, rather than the fact that you aren’t doing said acts because subconsciously you know that you will be punished for doing so.

I do good things even when I know I won't be punished. For example, I put the shopping cart back when I'm done shopping. Another example is to look at lawless societies, like the American wild west, where bandits and cattle rustlers thrived. The bandits weren't stealing from other bandits, though, they stole from honest people who knew that they could just get away with theft and murder and chose not to.

I get that you might feel this way personally and that's cool with me. But I do want to argue that your assumption that others feel the same isn't based in reality.

 

[bonesmashing]

What? I wouldn't rape or murder even if it was legal.

If you wouldn't do something just because it was "illegal" then I have doubts someone with this mindset would do it ever or at all.

The legal/illegal proxy is illusory. Do existing laws stop crime? No? Then those who heavily follow them do so for moral reasons most likely. If you're terrified of stealing a pack of gum with no chance of getting caught, do you think this person would be a big criminal with no laws?

Criminals do not follow laws. Guns don't kill people -- people kill people (with guns). Gun laws stop killings? Rape laws stop raping? Theft laws stop theft? If someone really was to do it then the illusion of legal/illegal would be blurred much more to said person quite obviously.

The laws are all an illusion, including many things we see and believe IRL and online too. People think we'd have The Purge-esque movie type response to loosening of laws, but think about it: If you really were bad to the bone and "evil," would a fucking law stop you to begin with? Those who were adamant on doing illegal things -- or about in theory doing illegal things -- would follow their own instincts and capabilities/circumstances. You are not going to go from "civilization" to "savage world" with laws changing -- just look at "civilization" now.

Instead of the "law of jungle" we are in the "law of mind slave/zombie" -- AKA you trade "primitive" for "experimental/twisted" type civilization. The most natural and common elements that make us human in an IDEAL environment/circumstance is what's most moral and right -- to think otherwise is Jewish/zog/brainwash-tier copes. Natural things almost always are the "betters" until you maim the foundation of such, or inequality/unfairness grows too strong (just look at the world we live in now for an example of such). Our world is not "naturally evil" -- it is MANUFACTURED EVIL. There is nothing good about "science" if it instills fear & is weaponized, right? Same with "laws" & shit too.

Well, what's natural about thousands of "laws" written in lawbooks for a legal system to anally rape people over as it sees fit? Whether you're the footsolider cuck robot (cop) or you're the "decider of a higher power" type person/people (judge, feds, etc.) it's all unnaturally evil.

 

[BITG]

Post like the FBI is watching.

 

[kaan]

Post like the FBI is watching.

 

[IncelKing]

If you wouldn't do something just because it was "illegal" then I have doubts someone with this mindset would do it ever or at all.

The legal/illegal proxy is illusory. Do existing laws stop crime? No? Then those who heavily follow them do so for moral reasons most likely. If you're terrified of stealing a pack of gum with no chance of getting caught, do you think this person would be a big criminal with no laws?

Criminals do not follow laws. Guns don't kill people -- people kill people (with guns). Gun laws stop killings? Rape laws stop raping? Theft laws stop theft? If someone really was to do it then the illusion of legal/illegal would be blurred much more to said person quite obviously.

The laws are all an illusion, including many things we see and believe IRL and online too. People think we'd have The Purge-esque movie type response to loosening of laws, but think about it: If you really were bad to the bone and "evil," would a fucking law stop you to begin with? Those who were adamant on doing illegal things -- or about in theory doing illegal things -- would follow their own instincts and capabilities/circumstances. You are not going to go from "civilization" to "savage world" with laws changing -- just look at "civilization" now.

Speak for yourself, There are many
Men who would rape a bitch if they could get away with it without punishment, they just don’t do it because they fear going to jail.

the status of an act being legal or illegal and therefore carrying either a reward or punishement, is heavily influential as to whether an individual engages in those acts or not, in a lawless world the individual wouldn’t hesitate to do things which are illegal.

yeah laws don’t stop crime, but if there were no laws then crime would be much more rampant than it is right now, maybe the crime rate with laws in place is 10%, without laws in place the crime rate would jump to over 50%

 

[RandomGuy]

Bakunin is considered among the most influential figures of anarchism and a major founder of the revolutionary socialist and social anarchist tradition.



View: https://youtu.be/gfdnbMd9BiE
2:37

 

[bonesmashing]

Speak for yourself, There are many
Men who would rape a bitch if they could get away with it without punishment, they just don’t do it because they fear going to jail.

the status of an act being legal or illegal and therefore carrying either a reward or punishement, is heavily influential as to whether an individual engages in those acts or not, in a lawless world the individual wouldn’t hesitate to do things which are illegal.

yeah laws don’t stop crime, but if there were no laws then crime would be much more rampant than it is right now, maybe the crime rate with laws in place is 10%, without laws in place the crime rate would jump to over 50%

The fear of doing something deemed "wrong" doesn't only boil down to legal status but social implications as well, which is why I'm saying that those who do things "bad" isn't only a "legal if conditional" but merely because they're brazen enough to not give a fuck period, laws or no laws or anything else. Those thugmaxxed guys just don't care -- they've often been in and out of jail and it's just the people they are. You're not bound to get some spineless coward who is terrified of people become some freedom fighting, militia madman/etc. just because laws are gone.

Did ER wait until murder laws were abolished before doing what he did? NO. Did any other mass killer give a shit about ANY REPERCUSSIONS ENOUGH TO WHERE IT WOULD HAVE STOPPED THEM FROM DOING IT? Most who do "insane" things will do them period -- lawless if conditional = fantasy usually. No, most aren't going to completely change in to different people under the guise of "no laws" -- because if you'd live your entire life through & never consider such an act to do, who is to say you really, truly wanted to do it then? Meanwhile, do thugs/psychos care period?

Even in a lawless land you still will have cucks who will band together and try to have you hanged for doing something "wrong." You think that if laws were lifted, humans and social implications will magically go away to let you do anything you want? Laws are illusory -- they're "there" but at the same time broken non-stop, so what do they really do? They instill fear to have you think to NOT do something, but those that really will want it will do it anyways. Sure, there's fear of repercussions, but it's not ONLY AROUND THE LAW BUT SOCIETY'S RESPONSE TO ACTS AS WELL.

I'm not saying nobody will use the lack of laws to strategize, but I get the strong impression that those who won't do something merely because it's "illegal" really aren't the type of people who have the gall to do it ever. Circumstances matter, but people usually don't change that quickly. People grow and adapt to what they deem "right" or "wrong" which is why those inherent, thuggish/psycho guys are always this way since youth, and likely never change. Odds are you won't magically alter your "being" like with a killswitch & become Decepticons, but I can't speak for all, no.

 

[IncelKing]

The fear of doing something deemed "wrong" doesn't only boil down to legal status but social implications as well, which is why I'm saying that those who do things "bad" isn't only a "legal if conditional" but merely because they're brazen enough to not give a fuck period, laws or no laws or anything else. Those thugmaxxed guys just don't care -- they've often been in and out of jail and it's just the people they are. You're not bound to get some spineless coward who is terrified of people become some freedom fighting, militia madman/etc. just because laws are gone.

Did ER wait until murder laws were abolished before doing what he did? NO. Did any other mass killer give a shit about ANY REPERCUSSIONS ENOUGH TO WHERE IT WOULD HAVE STOPPED THEM FROM DOING IT? Most who do "insane" things will do them period -- lawless if conditional = fantasy usually. No, most aren't going to completely change in to different people under the guise of "no laws" -- because if you'd live your entire life through & never consider such an act to do, who is to say you really, truly wanted to do it then? Meanwhile, do thugs/psychos care period?

Even in a lawless land you still will have cucks who will band together and try to have you hanged for doing something "wrong." You think that if laws were lifted, humans and social implications will magically go away to let you do anything you want? Laws are illusory -- they're "there" but at the same time broken non-stop, so what do they really do? They instill fear to have you think to NOT do something, but those that really will want it will do it anyways. Sure, there's fear of repercussions, but it's not ONLY AROUND THE LAW BUT SOCIETY'S RESPONSE TO ACTS AS WELL.

I'm not saying nobody will use the lack of laws to strategize, but I get the strong impression that those who won't do something merely because it's "illegal" really aren't the type of people who have the gall to do it ever. Circumstances matter, but people usually don't change that quickly. People grow and adapt to what they deem "right" or "wrong" which is why those inherent, thuggish/psycho guys are always this way since youth, and likely never change. Odds are you won't magically alter your "being" like with a killswitch & become Decepticons, but I can't speak for all, no.

just because some people commit crime irregardless of laws existing doesn’t mean that most people would likewise be good and moral citizens irregardless of laws existing, most people are only good and moral in disguise. They act like they don’t rape and kill because they are good people but if laws disappeared overnight, you’d quickly find out that the people you thought were “good” people weren’t so good to begin with now that they can do what they want without being punished.

There are many people out there who are potential murderers and rapists, they simply refrain from following their true nature in order to avoid punishment, their actions are based on cost/benefit, not whether something is good or bad, right or wrong. If you took 100 men and gave them the opportunity to rape a woman with the guarantee of no consequence, at least half of them would do it, because it wasn’t their perception of the act being “bad” or “immoral” which stopped them in the first place, it was the existence of punishment for that action which stopped them from performing that action.

I do good things even when I know I won't be punished. For example, I put the shopping cart back when I'm done shopping. Another example is to look at lawless societies, like the American wild west, where bandits and cattle rustlers thrived. The bandits weren't stealing from other bandits, though, they stole from honest people who knew that they could just get away with theft and murder and chose not to.

I get that you might feel this way personally and that's cool with me. But I do want to argue that your assumption that others feel the same isn't based in reality.

you just sound like someone who is so brainwashed by the concept of legality and authority, that even when given the chance to acquire sex from a woman by raping her and avoiding any consequence, you will refrain from doing so because society has indoctrinated you to believe that it’s “bad”.

 

[IncelKing]

Water is very wet

its sad that low iq postmaxxing chadlites who never contribute anything interesting to the forum, such as yourself, are allowed to remain on the forum due to corrupt mods meanwhile high iq and based posters get banned

if you don’t have anything useful to contribute, don’t make a comment at all, your comment wasn’t even worth the limited storage space of the forum.

 

[IncelKing]

Post like the FBI is watching.

ill fucking murder you

 

[Rhaast]

its sad that low iq postmaxxing chadlites who never contribute anything interesting to the forum, such as yourself, are allowed to remain on the forum due to corrupt mods meanwhile high iq and based posters get banned

if you don’t have anything useful to contribute, don’t make a comment at all, your comment wasn’t even worth the limited storage space of the forum.

You are just mad that no one read your thread

 

[Cope_Time]

Not even the government, if u dig deeper to the human brain you'll found that every action we do is controlled by some molecules in our head.
Free will is illusion.

 

[Toxic_Manbabby]

What? I wouldn't rape or murder even if it was legal.

I've actually done some thought experiments about what I would do if there were no consequences, and I struggled to think of anything I'd do different.

 

[Izayacel]

Speak for yourself, There are many
Men who would rape a bitch if they could get away with it without punishment, they just don’t do it because they fear going to jail.

the status of an act being legal or illegal and therefore carrying either a reward or punishement, is heavily influential as to whether an individual engages in those acts or not, in a lawless world the individual wouldn’t hesitate to do things which are illegal.

yeah laws don’t stop crime, but if there were no laws then crime would be much more rampant than it is right now, maybe the crime rate with laws in place is 10%, without laws in place the crime rate would jump to over 50%

This

LAW INHIBITS US AND FINALLY SOMEONE GETS IT.

I wouldnt mind being a little Shit when there is No law . But Doing Said Acts to get 10 years behind Bars isnt Worth it.

 

[FuRed]

Speak for yourself, There are many
Men who would rape a bitch if they could get away with it without punishment, they just don’t do it because they fear going to jail.

I agree with this.

@bonesmashing is a faggot, what else is new

 

[berais]

This

LAW INHIBITS US AND FINALLY SOMEONE GETS IT.

I wouldnt mind being a little Shit when there is No law . But Doing Said Acts to get 10 years behind Bars isnt Worth it.

Many men do rape women, we just don't find out about it because those men are crafty.

 

[bonesmashing]

I agree with this.

@bonesmashing is a faggot, what else is new

Seeing a tatted up, boneless British dogface coper like yourself is the epitome of faggotry. LOL

You are like those guys I would come across who sit alone and spit out rhymes like "tough" thugs but the only pussy they get is from sidewalk Sally at the end of the day.

Keep thinking NT is your problem -- cope till you rope, I guess.

 

[highinhibition]

i would like to go er but not to jail

 

[FuRed]

Seeing a tatted up, boneless British dogface coper like yourself is the epitome of faggotry. LOL

You are like those guys I would come across who sit alone and spit out rhymes like "tough" thugs but the only pussy they get is from sidewalk Sally at the end of the day.

Keep thinking NT is your problem -- cope till you rope, I guess.

Great deflection