Openess to criticism

[hierophant]

In your own words, how open to criticism are you?


From my own experience, I need training on these matters, I can say hand on heart, that I am open to different groups of men, though where I draw the line is the radical aspects of a person's behavior, if its an attitude that tolerable than I believe there is room to engage, and if there isn't then I withdraw.

 

[fokusin]

I have had enough criticism

 

[LeFrenchCel]

Depends how it's presented, what criticism it's about and how valid the criticism is.

 

[hierophant]

Depends how it's presented, what criticism it's about and how valid the criticism is.

Give yourself two examples, one in which you personally know you would listen to, another in which you know you must listen to due to circumstance and the last you know you wouldn't listen to.

If you have those examples, I'd be happy to read it.

 

[LeFrenchCel]

Give yourself two examples, one in which you personally know you would listen to, another in which you know you must listen to due to circumstance and the last you know you wouldn't listen to.

If you have those examples, I'd be happy to read it.

If the criticism is presented in a "you know you should do this, you should do that", clearly, with a calm voice/tone without trying to make me pass as a dumbass, more as an advice than a criticism, I'd listen.

If it's about something I know I'm in fault, I'd listen.

If it's presented in a violent way with a clear will of nuisance towards my person, go fuck yourself.

That's how I work

 

[hierophant]

If the criticism is presented in a "you know you should do this, you should do that", clearly, with a calm voice/tone without trying to make me pass as a dumbass, more as an advice than a criticism, I'd listen.

If it's about something I know I'm in fault, I'd listen.

If it's presented in a violent way with a clear will of nuisance towards my person, go fuck yourself.

That's how I work

In that respect, that being person, what about ideas?

 

[LeFrenchCel]

In that respect, that being person, what about ideas?

Wdym

 

[hierophant]

Wdym

Specifically, different philosophical ideas, political ideas, such as that and in total.

 

[Pikacel]

I have had enough criticism

Past a point it stips benefitting us

 

[LeFrenchCel]

Specifically, different philosophical ideas, political ideas, such as that and in total.

For this thread I take the "criticism" stuff as "something people tell me to do/be/say instead of just following my own choices".

If you want to go on the political/philosophical spectrum, there are some ideas I don't support but I understand why the ppl who support it are supporting it (racial segregation from a white supremacist pov for instance). It's not my way of thinking, but your way of thinking is logical and your opinion is acceptable.

And some others that are just making me lose any kind of credibility I have towards you as an individual (thinking trannies are a good thing for instance)

 

[hierophant]

For this thread I take the "criticism" stuff as "something people tell me to do/be/say instead of just following my own choices".

If you want to go on the political/philosophical spectrum, there are some ideas I don't support but I understand why the ppl who support it are supporting it (racial segregation from a white supremacist pov for instance). It's not my way of thinking, but your way of thinking is logical and your opinion is acceptable.

And some others that are just making me lose any kind of credibility I have towards you as an individual (thinking trannies are a good thing for instance)

In this regard, depending on those ideas, would you say you are critical of some ideas and not others?

 

[LeFrenchCel]

In this regard, depending on those ideas, would you say you are critical of some ideas and not others?

Yes

And we all have a different bias concerning which opinions are acceptable or not

 

[hierophant]

Yes

And we all have a different bias concerning which opinions are acceptable or not

Understandable, I think the last question I would have for you is. Would you say you can handle the criticism of your ideas by others?

 

[LeFrenchCel]

Understandable, I think the last question I would have for you is. Would you say you can handle the criticism of your ideas by others?

If the arguments are legit yeah

 

[DriveLikeNigger]

I have such low self esteem and an intense inferiority complex that i became numb to insults or critiscism. I know my own self so much that there's nothing you can say to me that i haven't already said to myself. Reading philosophy also helped temper my evaluation of my own worth.

 

[hierophant]

If the arguments are legit yeah

for the sake of argument it wasn't legit, but the idea itself is shown in full?

 

[hierophant]

I have such low self esteem and an intense inferiority complex that i became numb to insults or critiscism. I know my own self so much that there's nothing you can say to me that i haven't already said to myself. Reading philosophy also helped temper my evaluation of my own worth.

So say for example, you have an idea, but another person gives you criticism; would you not be able to handle it?

 

[DriveLikeNigger]

So say for example, you have an idea, but another person gives you criticism; would you not be able to handle it?

it depends on the criticism. If it's measured critique about my actions or my ideas then i can absolutely discuss it with the other person without reservation. If it's a regular hollow insult, then i don't even register it as something worth processing or thinking about.

 

[hierophant]

it depends on the criticism. If it's measured critique about my actions or my ideas then i can absolutely discuss it with the other person without reservation. If it's a regular hollow insult, then i don't even register it as something worth processing or thinking about.

So in the positive sense of the meaning, you can handle it, but if with intent to insult you or your character there may be minor offence or in general no recognition?

 

[DriveLikeNigger]

So in the positive sense of the meaning, you can handle it, but if with intent to insult you or your character there may be minor offence or in general no recognition?

pretty much. Feeling offence over criticism is warrented when it's plain defamation of character that is hurtful to your livelyhood or when it's the vehicule of a civil discussion. Otherwise, if you feel the need to react to every critique then you have to look inwards and understand your own worth. This is my opinion at least , what do you think??

 

[LeFrenchCel]

for the sake of argument it wasn't legit, but the idea itself is shown in full?

No idea

 

[hierophant]

pretty much. Feeling offence over criticism is warrented when it's plain defamation of character that is hurtful to your livelyhood or when it's the vehicule of a civil discussion. Otherwise, if you feel the need to react to every critique then you have to look inwards and understand your own worth. This is my opinion at least , what do you think??

Its a moderate point to have, in reality of it, we are taught to not pierce ones vanity, for once you do so the wraith of that person knows no bounds. In respect to offences in general as you have mentioned, yes there is a just reason to be offended.

 

[hierophant]

No idea

fair enough

 

[tedkwasasaint]

In your own words, how open to criticism are you?


From my own experience, I need training on these matters, I can say hand on heart, that I am open to different groups of men, though where I draw the line is the radical aspects of a person's behavior, if its an attitude that tolerable than I believe there is room to engage, and if there isn't then I withdraw.

It depends on what it is but if im saying something that is just like objective truth and someone tries correcting me i absolutely hate it but if its just my opinion on something i dont really care

 

[Sex-Starved Beast]

I am open, but I mostly get criticized for things that I can't change and that are not my fault.