Once you're past an age where you could go to university, if you don't already have a STEM degree, a shit life awaits you.

[Hate_my_life]

As someone in STEM who has only just realised I do not want to be an engineer, just thought I'd echo a few posts made on this sub and give my 2cents.

You can learn programming to a very high proficiency and get certificates online these days.

Yes and no.
Just like not everyone can do engineering, not everyone can learn programming to a very high efficiency. The next hurdle to overcome with learning programming is the need for project experience. Unless you're able to assemble a team, you'll be doing every project/game/app by yourself.

STEM is becoming a meme fast though. The fields are extremely competitive and in the first world there are tons of 3rd world immigrants who come to stemmaxx.

Engineers here barely make more starting than janitors and high school teachers. Obviously the gap widens over time as salary growth in the STEM field is better than that of meme jobs but still.

The idea that STEM is the key to becoming rich or upper class is outdated boomer nonsense in most of the first world. Some americans can easily make 6 figures from STEM but that's more like the exception than the rule.

Every single engineer i know is currently living with their parents or moved in with friends and they split the bills

I agree with this if you're in Europe.
The market is completely shit for engineers. There's a demand for engineers (who have a shit tonne of experience btw) for a mediocre pay.
When comparing the pay of engineers in the UK to that of engineers in the states, it's laughable how undervalued we are. However, we do receive 4+ weeks in holidays...
You are correct that the idea that STEM is the key to financial security is an outdated myth.
I know many engineering graduates who are currently just at home/doing side jobs DESPITE doing quite well-ish at Uni.

And the self-taught skills are also almost impossible to get for an average person due to a) a lack of motivation/discipline unless you are directly forced to do it by an outside force like an exam that kicks the self-preservation instincts into overdrive and b) because the available programms either deal with basic shit that everyone already knows who watched a Youtube Tutorial or so incredibly difficult that you have to have a background in that field in order to understand it, there is no real possibility for someone to improve because everything is concipated for total beginners/geniuses with years of experience with no room in between. Unless someone is truly a genius unlike every other it's (nearly) impossible to really learn something like programming on a professional basis all by yourself. Always these autodidacts who declare that the exception is the nonorm.

Agreed.
You need a very good motivating factor to learn programming to a professional level.
Personally, that'll be my distaste towards engineering.

nd also most STEM-fields (like Biology/Chemistry) don't offer a good job opportunities either in our current time, only programming/engineering really has a future perspective and this isn't something that you can really learn, but only understand.

I agree with the Biology/Chemistry side of your argument, not the programming/engineering (well not entirely).
Programming/Engineering has good future perspective if you have extensive RARE experience that the average graduate won't have.

Foids are also getting priority for the top paying jobs/internships.

This was the nail in the coffin for me.
I'm witnessing foids immediately after graduating have no issues getting Jobs and I can bet absolutely ANYTHING that if you were to compare my CV when I graduate to a foids' CV at graduation: even the hole isn't pretentious enough to think she's a better job candidate than I am (assuming we both perform similarly in the interview).

DESPITE this foids in STEM are like soygasms for companies. If you are a FOID and are struggling to get into a STEm field you're a failure. The entire world is literally ramming "more wOmEn iN sTeM" down my throat.

 

[Gymcelled]

I saw a study that getting a job is 85% networking. That's suifuel for me.

Because there's little to no competition when networking. When you try to get in a company based on merits and qualifications you have to compete with everyone else who has similar-ish merits

How many people are there with X degree and Y years of experience vs people who know the boss or the managers very well?
I'd say half of the engineers I know got in through family, friends or just bootlicking

I agree with this if you're in Europe.
The market is completely shit for engineers. There's a demand for engineers (who have a shit tonne of experience btw) for a mediocre pay.
When comparing the pay of engineers in the UK to that of engineers in the states, it's laughable how undervalued we are. However, we do receive 4+ weeks in holidays...
You are correct that the idea that STEM is the key to financial security is an outdated myth.
I know many engineering graduates who are currently just at home/doing side jobs DESPITE doing quite well-ish at Uni.aduation: even the hole isn't pretentious enough to think she's a better job candidate than I am (assuming we both perform similarly in the interview).

Americans make easily double or triple our pay. Our end career salary is at best their starting salary with no experience
It's fucking laughable. Sure we get more vacations and get shit like life insurance but it's just not worth it

I had a discussion with an american once who was telling me how to "invest" my money and spend it well, he had assumed a salary based on burger standards and i had to explain to him I didn't even make a third of what he assumed i'd make ...

People like @Total Imbecile are like "yo making 6 figures in STEM is so easy" when engineers in europe get paid 10 bucks an hour after taxes.

This was the nail in the coffin for me.
I'm witnessing foids immediately after graduating have no issues getting Jobs and I can bet absolutely ANYTHING that if you were to compare my CV when I graduate to a foids' CV at graduation: even the hole isn't pretentious enough to think she's a better job candidate than I am (assuming we both perform similarly in the interview).

DESPITE this foids in STEM are like soygasms for companies. If you are a FOID and are struggling to get into a STEm field you're a failure. The entire world is literally ramming "more wOmEn iN sTeM" down my throat.

Women in stem were offered foid only grants yet had the audacity to say men have it easier

 

[Lebensmüder]

This was the nail in the coffin for me.
I'm witnessing foids immediately after graduating have no issues getting Jobs and I can bet absolutely ANYTHING that if you were to compare my CV when I graduate to a foids' CV at graduation: even the hole isn't pretentious enough to think she's a better job candidate than I am (assuming we both perform similarly in the interview).

DESPITE this foids in STEM are like soygasms for companies. If you are a FOID and are struggling to get into a STEm field you're a failure. The entire world is literally ramming "more wOmEn iN sTeM" down my throat.

This tbh. Two thirds of my colleagues are women, but still they want more women. Women have it easier in all aspects of life, they get a preferential treatment in school, they are most of the time the pet of the teacher and get good grades shoved up their ass with the farce called oral grades. Then they enter university, where they also get a preferential treatment - for example: When you are a man who doesn't know what he is doing people tell you to piss off, when you are a woman however they are patient. As a man you are expected to know everything beforehand, as a woman you can rely on others. Both students/professors do that. And the whole special programs. Then the work place where they also have better chances due to the better education they had. And even when they don't want to do basic work, they can still sell their shitty underwear and get more than a doctor. I cannot believe how over it is.

I agree with the Biology/Chemistry side of your argument, not the programming/engineering (well not entirely).
Programming/Engineering has good future perspective if you have extensive RARE experience that the average graduate won't have.

A programmer has relatively speaking the best future perspective. And when this is the best future you can get you just know how bad the actual state of affairs is. Even the best have to compete over scraps, for normal people it never even began. Everything is shit.

 

[metabuxx]

No degree for your face

 

[Deleted member 22571]

My social anxiety is what holds me back more than anything. I have the intelligence and willpower to get any degree I want, but the fact that I have to interact with other people and have a charming personality in order to make it far in my career is the reason why I'm stuck washing dishes in a shitty restaurant instead.

 

[cvh1991]

STEM is becoming a meme fast though. The fields are extremely competitive and in the first world there are tons of 3rd world immigrants who come to stemmaxx.

Engineers here barely make more starting than janitors and high school teachers. Obviously the gap widens over time as salary growth in the STEM field is better than that of meme jobs but still.

The idea that STEM is the key to becoming rich or upper class is outdated boomer nonsense in most of the first world. Some americans can easily make 6 figures from STEM but that's more like the exception than the rule.

Every single engineer i know is currently living with their parents or moved in with friends and they split the bills

Based mate — I got a STEM degree and have had a job in my field for a couple years now and I barely make enough to cover rent/utilities/groceries/insurance/car payments and what have you with a roommate lol.

All the money goes to the top and the rest of us are just “serfs” to the owners: View: https://youtu.be/QPKKQnijnsM


A lot of STEM jobs aren’t unionized and you basically can’t make a union today without having your branch shut down. My field is also super competitive now, I genuinely don’t believe I’d be able to get the same job I did today — the number of applicants is nuts.

If I worked at McDonald’s or Starbucks or some shit it’d be even worse obviously — I’d then have to room with like 3 or 4 people so basically if you’re not an “owner” or lucky/Chad or luck out via nepotism you’re gonna have a bad time.

Ideally if one was a woman you can just find a betabux to slave away for you who pays for everything, but we ain’t that.

Life is a scam and clear net negative these days at least for low status poor ugly males — I wish I’d been aborted tbh. Even average males have shit lives seems to me — looking at blackpill science studies is seems like there’s basically a Chad cutoff and anyone below that is pretty much fucked with their only hope being to Betabux which is cucked and not even worth it.

 

[Deleted member 7448]

Based mate — I got a STEM degree and have had a job in my field for a couple years now and I barely make enough to cover rent/utilities/groceries/insurance/car payments and what have you with a roommate lol.

All the money goes to the top and the rest of us are just “serfs” to the owners: View: https://youtu.be/QPKKQnijnsM


A lot of STEM jobs aren’t unionized and you basically can’t make a union today without having your branch shut down. My field is also super competitive now, I genuinely don’t believe I’d be able to get the same job I did today — the number of applicants is nuts.

If I worked at McDonald’s or Starbucks or some shit it’d be even worse obviously — I’d then have to room with like 3 or 4 people so basically if you’re not an “owner” or lucky/Chad or luck out via nepotism you’re gonna have a bad time.

Ideally if one was a woman you can just find a betabux to slave away for you who pays for everything, but we ain’t that.

Life is a scam and clear net negative these days at least for low status poor ugly males — I wish I’d been aborted tbh. Even average males have shit lives seems to me — looking at blackpill science studies is seems like there’s basically a Chad cutoff and anyone below that is pretty much fucked with their only hope being to Betabux which is cucked and not even worth it.

Well that sucks. Busted your ass in college, busted your ass at your job and you still can barely make ends meet? Damn. Makes my dumb ass living at home, looking at barely making $300 per month doesn't have it so bad.

 

[Lookscel]

Studying STEM with an average IQ is also an extremely shitty experience, basically to get decent grades you have to work for the entire day.

Going through a STEM degree with average or below average intellect is hell. You have to work entire day while there are some guys who can just study before exams and ace it.

On top of that I litreally have zero memory capacity so I have to study everything in detail so I can deduce it logically and make a mental image in my brain. Others can just simply memorize it.

Still I keep on struggling nevertheless......

 

[Deleted member 7448]

Going through a STEM degree with average or below average intellect is hell. You have to work entire day while there are some guys who can just study before exams and ace it.

On top of that I litreally have zero memory capacity so I have to study everything in detail so I can deduce it logically and make a mental image in my brain. Others can just simply memorize it.

Still I keep on struggling nevertheless......

Sounds a lot like me. Hope this motivates you: I went the other way, I avoided work and went into social science degrees. Well, while it's not as hard as STEM, it's basically useless. It's a waste of time, it's a guarantee that I'll be a slave for the rest of my life making pennies. So you made the right choice and all your struggles are worth it.

 

[Over_this_Life]

How many people are there with X degree and Y years of experience vs people who know the boss or the managers very well?
I'd say half of the engineers I know got in through family, friends or just bootlicking

An unfortunate truth

 

[Lebensmüder]

Going through a STEM degree with average or below average intellect is hell. You have to work entire day while there are some guys who can just study before exams and ace it.

On top of that I litreally have zero memory capacity so I have to study everything in detail so I can deduce it logically and make a mental image in my brain. Others can just simply memorize it.

Still I keep on struggling nevertheless......

Same. Don't even know how I will pass a Master's exam, forgot everything I learned in the previous years. Completely over for me. Everything has become so difficult, previously there was only a low treshhold for grades to be allowed to apply, nowadays you have to pass a first application, then you have to pass an exam and then you have to pass another interview/application to be allowed to study further (not even in my native language in my own country jfl). And in the current time a Bachelor's degree is worthless anyways. And thanks to universities working on an international scale I have to compete with huge amounts of foreigners - and I even have to finance the education of foreigners who will never work in my country and bring some tax revenue. Completely over when you are average/below average today.

 

[LDARbeforeROPE]

F. Incredibly brutal. Studying STEM with an average IQ is also an extremely shitty experience, basically to get decent grades you have to work for the entire day. And even when you do, naturally-gifted people succeed so easily. Sometimes it feels like I am the only one that actually finds something bothersome in class or doesn't get it.

And the self-taught skills are also almost impossible to get for an average person due to a) a lack of motivation/discipline unless you are directly forced to do it by an outside force like an exam that kicks the self-preservation instincts into overdrive and b) because the available programms either deal with basic shit that everyone already knows who watched a Youtube Tutorial or so incredibly difficult that you have to have a background in that field in order to understand it, there is no real possibility for someone to improve because everything is concipated for total beginners/geniuses with years of experience with no room in between. Unless someone is truly a genius unlike every other it's (nearly) impossible to really learn something like programming on a professional basis all by yourself. Always these autodidacts who declare that the exception is the norm.

And also most STEM-fields (like Biology/Chemistry) don't offer a good job opportunities either in our current time, only programming/engineering really has a future perspective and this isn't something that you can really learn, but only understand. For example: You can bruteforce the entire human anatomy in your brain or learn mechanism of reactions in organic chemistry by hard, but programming is something that you either know or don't know - it depends on instincts and talents. Furthermore, a biologist/chemist barely makes more than a teacher anymore who rarely actually does something. The modern labor market is (except for programmers/engineers maybe) a hell nowadays.

This tbh. Western engineers have to fight/compete with literal slave laborers thanks to the beautiful world we nowadays live in with loan dumping and other shit, even the most gifted must participate in a competition of how much dignity they are willing to lose for mere scraps and they are the ones with the best future perspectives.

What do you consider to be average to low iq?

Try investing in crypto currency, start with an experimental account and see how you do..you never know, you may have a talent for it

How much should you invest?

Going through a STEM degree with average or below average intellect is hell. You have to work entire day while there are some guys who can just study before exams and ace it.

On top of that I litreally have zero memory capacity so I have to study everything in detail so I can deduce it logically and make a mental image in my brain. Others can just simply memorize it.

Still I keep on struggling nevertheless......

What do you consider to be average to low iq?

 

[Deleted member 28903]

all jobs are meme

 

[Lookscel]

So you made the right choice and all your struggles are worth it

Meh a bachelor's degree is worthless, specially considering the fact that I live in a third world shithole.

On top of that im studying biology which isn't exactly a lucrative field.

I have come up with an strategy tho, to have a general and acceptable amounts of knowledge on all the possible topics but to study a select few and interrelated topics in extreme detail and then specialise in them at an higher education level ( Masters or a PhD, that is if I do a PhD but there's a long time before I will have to decide whether I do ine or not )

Don't even know how I will pass a Master's exa

I don't know how I will pass my exams either. I have to go through like 4000 pages of material ( although obviously I have already gone through a part of the said 4000 pages ).

What do you consider to be average to low iq?

For an average or low IQ person it will take alot of time relative to a high iq person to fully understand a topic. He will also forget concepts and topics more often than an high IQ person.

 

[your personality]

No degree for your face

Going through a STEM degree with average or below average intellect is hell. You have to work entire day while there are some guys who can just study before exams and ace it.

On top of that I litreally have zero memory capacity so I have to study everything in detail so I can deduce it logically and make a mental image in my brain. Others can just simply memorize it.

Still I keep on struggling nevertheless......

Uni was probably way easier for incels when less people went to it. Now the saying is college is the new high school and the environment at unis is just as petty as in many high schools. Also group work in more prestigious difficult quantiative fields had less competitors and class sizes weren't as big as many people there now probably like verbally recollecting. You are reminded you missed the cutoff. And because there are more foids you are penalized for not being a team player and not being NT more than you would before. And with all the drama between guys trying to impress foids as in any other mixed gender place. It sucks how had you gotten in just a few years earlier wouldn't have been an issue tbhngl

 

[Deleted member 7448]

Meh a bachelor's degree is worthless, specially considering the fact that I live in a third world shithole.

On top of that im studying biology which isn't exactly a lucrative field.

I have come up with an strategy tho, to have a general and acceptable amounts of knowledge on all the possible topics but to study a select few and interrelated topics in extreme detail and then specialise in them at an higher education level ( Masters or a PhD, that is if I do a PhD but there's a long time before I will have to decide whether I do ine or not )


I don't know how I will pass my exams either. I have to go through like 4000 pages of material ( although obviously I have already gone through a part of the said 4000 pages ).


For an average or low IQ person it will take alot of time relative to a high iq person to fully understand a topic. He will also forget concepts and topics more often than an high IQ person.

Heh, I'm from a third world shithole too so I know how useless a bachelor's is. Biology, huh? Damn, you're right, that is useless in a 3rd world country, would be different in the US or something but not here. Although it does open up good options for a master's, might be worth it in that regard. Still, even with my master's degree that I'm finishing up, my degrees are still more useless than yours. Damn meme social sciences lol.

 

[your personality]

Women in stem were offered foid only grants yet had the audacity to say men have it easier

Similar to what mylifeistrash had said

I'm convinced society only exists to fuck up men's lives and cause them pain / torture under the guise of justice | Incels.is - Involuntary Celibate

It's why all of these insane pointless laws which rarely get enforced exist. So you have an excuse to fuck up an ugly man's life if they get caught in the spotlight. In Australia, you can go to jail for possessing anime porn that looks too underaged, i.e. if the porn has the characters look too...

incels.is

am convinced that the repeated lie about men having it easier in life is just there to cause pain and confusion and neutralize many males in life in favor of naturals (NT chads) and foids.

 

[Gymcelled]

A lot of STEM jobs aren’t unionized and you basically can’t make a union today without having your branch shut down. My field is also super competitive now, I genuinely don’t believe I’d be able to get the same job I did today — the number of applicants is nuts.

You also can't unionize because they keep importing third worlders who'll work for less and will accept shitty working conditions
Plus you have the effect described in pic below

Life is a scam and clear net negative these days at least for low status poor ugly males — I wish I’d been aborted tbh. Even average males have shit lives seems to me — looking at blackpill science studies is seems like there’s basically a Chad cutoff and anyone below that is pretty much fucked with their only hope being to Betabux which is cucked and not even worth it.

The lives of normies are absolute garbage but they're somehow still better than ours

Even if you ascend and get to normie levels you have to deal with their problems: cheating, dead bedrooms, "shit tests" (cope it's just foids hating sub8 men), stds etc

 

[Lookscel]

Now the saying is college is the new high school and the environment at unis is just as petty as in many high schools.

Tbh college is just like High school

Good thing I don't have to encounter Chads. Unfortunately I will have to interact with foids. I also have foid teachers ( "professor" is the right word but I don't really want to use it in regards to them ) and I can already tell I won't have a good relationship with them.

, I'm from a third world shithole too so I know how useless a bachelor's is. Biology, huh?

I think a bachelor's in biology in a first world country isn't much either ( unless maybe you have an engineering related degree in Biotechnology ).

 

[your personality]

Tbh college is just like High school

More so community but even traditional campuses where you live in dorms and walk to class are like that because of so many normies going to boost their career chances. Creditentialism demands it along with politicians urging everyone to go to college and making tuition more affordable so there are more college graduates. Reduces the value of having a degree while people pay more to education industry and are on the hook for government aid longer in form of student loans. It's a racket imo and high schools, uni and the government are all in on it.

Good thing I don't have to encounter Chads. Unfortunately I will have to interact with foids. I also have foid teachers ( "professor" is the right word but I don't really want to use it in regards to them ) and I can already tell I won't have a good relationship with them.

Yeah the foid teachers are known to get testy over small things more easily than male teachers and your grades can be negatively affected if your behavior ever even accidentally rubs them the wrong way. Particularly if they teach a subjective course like English. And of course reddit being the platform for unsuccessful males it is has a post about that
View: https://www.reddit.com/r/memes/comments/kpz5jy/i_hope_im_not_the_only_one_who_has_had_a_bad/

Spoiler: Image

 

[Lebensmüder]

What do you consider to be average to low iq?

>120 extremely intelligent, >110 above average, from 90/110 average, <90 below average.

Suffer from dissociative intelligence (disparities between different aspects of intelligence) and this leads to different results each time. Had everything from above average IQ to mental disability in my tests- mostly 95+/-15 are my results (from ~80 to ~110), problem is spatial/pattern recognition. Am disabled when it comes to that. Have a higher verbal IQ than performance IQ.

 

[Deleted member 24297]

Too dumb for STEM anyways

 

[ThisWorldIsAMess]

STEM is becoming a meme fast though. The fields are extremely competitive and in the first world there are tons of 3rd world immigrants who come to stemmaxx.

Engineers here barely make more starting than janitors and high school teachers. Obviously the gap widens over time as salary growth in the STEM field is better than that of meme jobs but still.

The idea that STEM is the key to becoming rich or upper class is outdated boomer nonsense in most of the first world. Some americans can easily make 6 figures from STEM but that's more like the exception than the rule.

Every single engineer i know is currently living with their parents or moved in with friends and they split the bills

Yeah. And engineers will struggle to find a job a lot of the time. Can only imagine how painful doing software engineering full time would be...like it’s fun coding stuff out and building something that works, but I can never bother doing that as a job.

I’m in pre med studying to become a doctor but it’s takes years in pre med, medical school and residency to finally start making good money. Then I can finally betabux and settle down into a dead bedroom with a 45 y/o single mom of two kids...

 

[Gymcelled]

Similar to what mylifeistrash had said

I'm convinced society only exists to fuck up men's lives and cause them pain / torture under the guise of justice | Incels.is - Involuntary Celibate

It's why all of these insane pointless laws which rarely get enforced exist. So you have an excuse to fuck up an ugly man's life if they get caught in the spotlight. In Australia, you can go to jail for possessing anime porn that looks too underaged, i.e. if the porn has the characters look too...

incels.is

am convinced that the repeated lie about men having it easier in life is just there to cause pain and confusion and neutralize many males in life in favor of naturals (NT chads) and foids.

I really miss his insights

Yeah. And engineers will struggle to find a job a lot of the time. Can only imagine how painful doing software engineering full time would be...like it’s fun coding stuff out and building something that works, but I can never bother doing that as a job.

I’m in pre med studying to become a doctor but it’s takes years in pre med, medical school and residency to finally start making good money. Then I can finally betabux and settle down into a dead bedroom with a 45 y/o single mom of two kids...

Yeah you pretty much have to put your life on hold until you're 30, 35 etc and then maybe you start making ok money. What's the point? You've already wasted the best years of your life. You're gonna have to pay to get chad's leftovers.

 

[Dr. Dicklet]

How much should you invest?

Bigger the risk bigger the reward. I would certainly do your research before investing in the currencies you like or have hope for. I would try £50 to start and work your way up

 

[LDARbeforeROPE]

For an average or low IQ person it will take alot of time relative to a high iq person to fully understand a topic. He will also forget concepts and topics more often than an high IQ person.

>120 extremely intelligent, >110 above average, from 90/110 average, <90 below average.

Suffer from dissociative intelligence (disparities between different aspects of intelligence) and this leads to different results each time. Had everything from above average IQ to mental disability in my tests- mostly 95+/-15 are my results (from ~80 to ~110), problem is spatial/pattern recognition. Am disabled when it comes to that. Have a higher verbal IQ than performance IQ.

Fuck Im average then

Bigger the risk bigger the reward. I would certainly do your research before investing in the currencies you like or have hope for. I would try £50 to start and work your way up

Ill try to invest 50$ then

 

[Dr. Dicklet]

Ill try to invest 50$ then

Good luck boyo, if you make it big can you buy me a wife ?

 

[cvh1991]

Well that sucks. Busted your ass in college, busted your ass at your job and you still can barely make ends meet? Damn. Makes my dumb ass living at home, looking at barely making $300 per month doesn't have it so bad.

Wage slaving is no life worth living — I did everything “right” and I’m still poor. In part because I’m not a god tier John Carmack level super star, I’m just average or maybe a little below average even.

If I lose my job someday I’ll be fucked.

Our company CEO inherited the company from their father and makes millions playing on their MacBook all day and occasionally giving an “inspiring” speech.

One thing I’ve observed is that company hire ups can get away with behavior that would get you fired at the bottom of the pyramid (losing their shit/temper or extreme unprofessional behavior). Everyone sucks your dick because you cut their paycheck and you’re “higher status” it’s a joke. Somewhat related, women love high status powerful men that are “above” them in the hierarchy — doesn’t matter what their personality is like (though looks are relevant of course).

I love how women act like being able to fuck their way up the ladder is “so horrible” — nigga getting a permanent promotion and not have to do real work because you banged your boss is a very good deal. More like, they do it, then flip the tables and blackmail said boss so they have their cake and eat it to but I’m getting off topic.

I expect you can tell, but the level cynicism I have for the “modern work place” is extremely high — in some sense life is determined largely by luck and many people do not have net positive lives and work is basically serfdom for most men.

If I could I wouldn’t work at all since the time and effort it requires isn’t worth what you get, but then I’d be homeless — funny how life can seemingly always get worse eh? Most people are slaves who work shitty jobs because the alternative is even worse.

I really miss his insights


Yeah you pretty much have to put your life on hold until you're 30, 35 etc and then maybe you start making ok money. What's the point? You've already wasted the best years of your life. You're gonna have to pay to get chad's leftovers.

good links thanks mate

 

[Deleted member 7448]

Wage slaving is no life worth living — I did everything “right” and I’m still poor. In part because I’m not a god tier John Carmack level super star, I’m just average or maybe a little below average even.

If I lose my job someday I’ll be fucked.

Our company CEO inherited the company from their father and makes millions playing on their MacBook all day and occasionally giving an “inspiring” speech.

One thing I’ve observed is that company hire ups can get away with behavior that would get you fired at the bottom of the pyramid (losing their shit/temper or extreme unprofessional behavior). Everyone sucks your dick because you cut their paycheck and you’re “higher status” it’s a joke. Somewhat related, women love high status powerful men that are “above” them in the hierarchy — doesn’t matter what they’re personality is like.

I expect you can tell, but the level cynicism I have for the world is extremely high — in some sense life is determined largely by luck and many people do not have net positive lives.

If I could I wouldn’t work at all since the time and effort it requires isn’t worth what you get, but then I’d be homeless — funny how life can seemingly always get worse eh? Most people are slaves who work shitty jobs because the alternative is s

good links thanks mate

I'm just as cynical, and I actually share all your views, weirdly I've known this even before I've ever worked. I feel prophetic at times but I guess it's just extrapolation based on what I've seen in my life. This world is so tough, such bullshit.

 

[cvh1991]

You also can't unionize because they keep importing third worlders who'll work for less and will accept shitty working conditions
Plus you have the effect described in pic below

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The lives of normies are absolute garbage but they're somehow still better than ours

Even if you ascend and get to normie levels you have to deal with their problems: cheating, dead bedrooms, "shit tests" (cope it's just foids hating sub8 men), stds etc

I think it was the Kursman study that showed post cohabitation women’s desire for sex plummets off a cliff while men’s stays constant — basically proving that women only put out to lock down betabux resources then they do then are minimum.

Dead bedrooms and minimal sex for betabux is very real as is divorce rape (which generates a lot of MGTOW lol) later in life. Common as day.

Thanks for that article, really shows the real reasons companies are pushing “diversity” eh?

I'm just as cynical, and I actually share all your views, weirdly I've known this even before I've ever worked. I feel prophetic at times but I guess it's just extrapolation based on what I've seen in my life. This world is so tough, such bullshit.

Indeed

Too dumb for STEM anyways

STEM stuff is pretty hard seems to me — one reason women don’t usually do it is because it’s too hard and they have much easier routes they can go and still end up being financially stable. Many many people flunk out of engineering for example. Comparatively many fewer people flunk out of meme degrees that basically just require writing lots of essays and teacher favoritism. So, most degrees women usually do *cough* *cough*.

Ugly low status men do STEM because it’s one of the few ways they think they’ll raise themselves up and be able to betabux lol.

 

[happiless]

Bigger the risk bigger the reward. I would certainly do your research before investing in the currencies you like or have hope for. I would try £50 to start and work your way up

wat crypto should I drunk buy? I have 1.5k left to spend and its in bitcoin the rest is in a shitcoin called AVAX
and my total is only 2k because I am a retard who had 0.8 BTC and sold it during the same year as the bubble

yeah and STEM is a meme but I have a code job but my IQ is meh well woops what the fuck do I have the job for but oh lmao moneys but lottery I need x3 to buy apartment and x-Corona-chan to fuck hooker albeit whats the point of losing virginity perhaps motivation to surpass the autism then again there is no cure for autism so surpassed it cannot be thus trying is a meme
Holy cunny that post was 9 minutes ago I feel as if I just made it

 

[Dr. Dicklet]

wat crypto should I drunk buy? I have 1.5k left to spend and its in bitcoin the rest is in a shitcoin called AVAX
and my total is only 2k because I am a retard who had 0.8 BTC and sold it during the same year as the bubble

yeah and STEM is a meme but I have a code job but my IQ is meh well woops what the fuck do I have the job for but oh lmao moneys but lottery I need x3 to buy apartment and x-Corona-chan to fuck hooker albeit whats the point of losing virginity perhaps motivation to surpass the autism then again there is no cure for autism so surpassed it cannot be thus trying is a meme
Holy cunny that post was 9 minutes ago I feel as if I just made it

Not sure bitcoins a good idea there's alot which think it might crash. Can't advise you boyo I'm a bit out of touch with the currency, I invested into IOTA and it was ok, haven't done it in a while tho

 

[starcrapoo]

Rofl, over for Asian and Indian stemcels.

Your six figure income doesn't mean jackshit unless the foid is literally 35+ that has banged anywhere from 5 - 12 dudes already and has 1 or 2 kids that are not yours.

Its kind of hilarious that foids put such a high standard for Asian dudes yet I guarantee you the average Asian dude also has very high standards (the highest out of all the races of men) and the vast majority of non-Asian women rarely meet them. The average American foid is trashy ass fuck. Its an inescapable fact and plain obvious for anyone to see. Asian dudes HAVE to lower THEIR standards if they chase for non-Asian foids. Hilarious to think that non-Asian females believe that they are lowering their standards by settling with an Asian dude. They need to compare themselves to Asian men in an objective light (which is hard for them to do so)
and see that they are basically borderline retarded compared with the average Asian male in terms of intellect.

I'm in my 30s as an Asian dude, its over. But American women are genuinely wretched people so its not really a loss. Most of you guys are under 25 it seems and are still in the frustration phase. I've already given up. I just fuck escorts every now and then. I can never ever take foids seriously. They don't realize that they are literally destroying humanity and that their bullcrap is unsustainable.

 

[ThisWorldIsAMess]

Yeah you pretty much have to put your life on hold until you're 30, 35 etc and then maybe you start making ok money. What's the point? You've already wasted the best years of your life. You're gonna have to pay to get chad's leftovers.

That’s what I keep saying. You want to be making good money (like 80k+) in your 20s and enjoy life while working your dream job. So you can move out, eat good food, buy a nice car, etc. But oh no, wait until you’re 35 years old and unfit with no social life to start having fun.

 

[dirtykombatcel]

I think I'm stupid tbh, which I'm probably already am. I don't know what I want to major in. What should someone major in if they don't even know what to major in?

very accurate depiction of my situation.

 

[Deleted member 32037]

very accurate depiction of my situation.

Yeah I don’t know what I want to do with my life. I fucking hate myself and wanna rope badly. Also do u play mortal kombat 11?
I loved jade she’s really nice

 

[dirtykombatcel]

Yeah I don’t know what I want to do with my life. I fucking hate myself and wanna rope badly. Also do u play mortal kombat 11?
I loved jade she’s really nice

Same, though I don't really have anyone to play it with and I don't understand online.

Also I think I fapped to Jade more than I know to count.

 

[Deleted member 32037]

Same, though I don't really have anyone to play it with and I don't understand online.

Also I think I fapped to Jade more than I know to count.

I fapped to a lot of jade, and katana and Johnny’s daughter too lol

 

[Fancy Alcoholic]

no stem for your face