Discussion On top of the written driver’s test, people should be given a legitimate IQ test as well

[Diddy]

For learning how to drive an automatic, people with 100+ IQ should be allowed to drive on the local road without any supervision, but may need a learner’s permit for driving on the highway. For those who scored between [90, 100), they should be given a learner’s permit for driving on the local road as well. People with sub-90 IQ shouldn’t be allowed to drive at all. For learning how to drive a manual, only people with 95+ IQ should be allowed to drive, but they all need to get a learner’s permit at the beginning.

Do you agree?

 

[leviathan9999]

For learning how to drive an automatic, people with 100+ IQ should be allowed to drive on the local road without any supervision, but may need a learner’s permit for driving on the highway. For those who scored between [90, 100), they should be given a learner’s permit for driving on the local road as well. People with sub-90 IQ shouldn’t be allowed to drive at all. For learning how to drive a manual, only people with 95+ IQ should be allowed to drive, but they all need to get a learner’s permit at the beginning.

Do you agree?

cars should not exist in the first place

 

[Diddy]

cars should not exist in the first place

Why do you say that?

 

[DoomThreeKoala]

cars should not exist in the first place

 

[leviathan9999]

Why do you say that?

dangerous,takes up space,pollution (noise+C02),streets were meant for people

 

[DoomThreeKoala]

dangerous,takes up space,pollution,streets were meant for people

Basically this.

 

[Diddy]

dangerous,takes up space,pollution (noise+C02),streets were meant for people

It’s only dangerous because of low-IQ drivers, but I agree with your other points.

 

[plastic chewer]

I'm too retarded to drive

 

[AtrociousCitizen]

cars should not exist in the first place

 

[Diddy]

I'm too retarded to drive

 

[wereq]

No IQ for your inceldom.

 

[zd60]

Yeah I like this idea

 

[psyop]

People with sub-90 IQ shouldn’t be allowed to drive at all.

Add oldfags and foids to the list

 

[psyop]

Did a near miss encourage you to write this

 

[psyop]

In my country they keep punishing young drivers whilst avoiding the real issue

 

[lnceI]

cars shouldnt exist

 

[Rapistcel]

For learning how to drive an automatic, people with 100+ IQ should be allowed to drive on the local road without any supervision, but may need a learner’s permit for driving on the highway. For those who scored between [90, 100), they should be given a learner’s permit for driving on the local road as well. People with sub-90 IQ shouldn’t be allowed to drive at all. For learning how to drive a manual, only people with 95+ IQ should be allowed to drive, but they all need to get a learner’s permit at the beginning.

Do you agree?

I don't believe in IQ tests and I don't believe in IQ as an exact way to show how intelligent someone is and I believe that science is just fake, so I can't agree with this. If you are able to pass the driving license test you should be allowed to drive. There are a lot of people who have had sub 90 in IQ tests and aren't really dumb/can drive without any problem.

 

[Rapistcel]

For learning how to drive an automatic, people with 100+ IQ should be allowed to drive on the local road without any supervision, but may need a learner’s permit for driving on the highway. For those who scored between [90, 100), they should be given a learner’s permit for driving on the local road as well. People with sub-90 IQ shouldn’t be allowed to drive at all. For learning how to drive a manual, only people with 95+ IQ should be allowed to drive, but they all need to get a learner’s permit at the beginning.

Do you agree?

I'm currently in process of getting my driver's license and it's not being hard at all despite some people here have rated me as "low IQ"

 

[Horatio Ludwiczek]

For learning how to drive an automatic, people with 100+ IQ should be allowed to drive on the local road without any supervision, but may need a learner’s permit for driving on the highway. For those who scored between [90, 100), they should be given a learner’s permit for driving on the local road as well. People with sub-90 IQ shouldn’t be allowed to drive at all. For learning how to drive a manual, only people with 95+ IQ should be allowed to drive, but they all need to get a learner’s permit at the beginning.

Do you agree?

Absolute intelligence declines with age past your mid twenties, but your rank in the IQ hierarchy might stay the same since everybody else in your age cohort is also progressively getting dumber

A 70 year old with 100 IQ is WAAAY dumber than a 100 IQ 20 year old

Not having Alzheimer's might put you above average IQ among 70-80 year olds JFL

 

[Diddy]

Add oldfags and foids to the list

Absolute intelligence declines with age past your mid twenties, but your rank in the IQ hierarchy might stay the same since everybody else in your age cohort is also progressively getting dumber

A 70 year old with 100 IQ is WAAAY dumber than a 100 IQ 20 year old

Not having Alzheimer's might put you above average IQ among 70-80 year olds JFL

Yes oldfags should be excluded as well.

 

[Horatio Ludwiczek]

Yes oldfags should be excluded as well.

Maybe you can give an universal IQ test normed to 20 year old whites to all demographics

Instead of a comprehensive IQ test like the WAIS, you should give out an IQ test exclusively measuring spatial/processing ability

since driving a car primarily loads heavily on spatial ability, which is imperfectly correlated with g (not a perfect correlation btw all cognitive abilities, so scoring high on other subtests like Verbal would not guarantee adequate driving skills even if your composite IQ is above average)

 

[Horatio Ludwiczek]

I don't believe in IQ tests and I don't believe in IQ as an exact way to show how intelligent someone is and I believe that science is just fake, so I can't agree with this. If you are able to pass the driving license test you should be allowed to drive. There are a lot of people who have had sub 90 in IQ tests and aren't really dumb/can drive without any problem.

That's because IQ is imperfectly correlated with g dumbass. Overperformance and underperformance can happen due to luck and IQ tests do not measure every single cognitive component that makes up general intelligence due to time and resource constraints

Plus there are imperfect correlations btw subtests that make up your holistic IQ as well (Verbal IQ, Processing IQ, etc), so some sub 90 IQ guy with above average spatial IQ can still drive safely

Idiot savants displaying "islands of genius" are an extreme manifestation of the phenomenon

 

[hierophant]

For learning how to drive an automatic, people with 100+ IQ should be allowed to drive on the local road without any supervision, but may need a learner’s permit for driving on the highway. For those who scored between [90, 100), they should be given a learner’s permit for driving on the local road as well. People with sub-90 IQ shouldn’t be allowed to drive at all. For learning how to drive a manual, only people with 95+ IQ should be allowed to drive, but they all need to get a learner’s permit at the beginning.

Do you agree?

For clarities sake, IQ measures cognitive abilities and attempts to quantify the results by a total. So it is clear your argument states that those within the range of 90 to 100 should be allowed to drive- adding there to a learners permit, and those of sub 90 IQ should be prohibited from driving. Almost forgot to mention you also add that those within 90 to 100 will receive a learners permit, but will only be allowed to drive local roads.

The argument onto itself if imagined in practice and adding realistic circumstances, we might assume a few worlds:

1. If we were to allow people of 90 to 100 IQ to drive only within local roads, given the current design of the road system, getting stuck in traffic would be more intense due to the mass amount of cars being allowed to use local roads.

2. If allowed people of 90-100 IQ are permitted use of local roads it can be assumed that will make drivers cautious of the fact they are now put into a position where they must be considerate by default. More traffic, thence be careful.

Now given that consideration was made in good faith and at least a pro and con provided, I give my opinion. If we use a psychometric to be a determiner of who is allowed to drive it should be made clear of the issues that will come as a result. It would be inconsistent within itself, using a psychometric as a means to test the aptitude of a driver would not be fair unto drivers of circumstance. In essence, driving should be tailored to the context of those who live within those local areas, if not the state. Context compels us to be pragmatic; that and eventually how pragmatic would it be to drive using local roads which may very well take you longer to reach your destination where as it might take you an hour or three to get from point A to point B?

My premise is this

P1: Drivers should learn in accordance with their circumstance.
P2: By driving within their town or city they will be able to teach them how they are to drive within their area.
P3: Hence, the use of psychometrics would be rendered useless.


If I am in error anywhere or it does not make sense, show me where in particular and we may discuss till we reach a conclusion, hopefully I have given your question and answer and criticized in good faith.

 

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Motor skills and general awareness is more important for driving than IQ