On MAGA, Gen-z and status quo

[SewerPolarKoala]

So, MAGA is a hope but it’s futile hope, they’re bringing America to pre-1990 status quo, where men were allowed to be men and compete but only if they protect women and children, only if they “man up” and stop caring about problems like inceldom, if MAGA-alike movements set new cultural trend we will go back to times where we could speak our mind freely, but feminists will be still allowed the same, MAGA will not take away any of excessive women’s rights, they will not ban female artists and academics from calling to kill all men.

Tradcons will not stop wokeness, they will allow boys to be boys, but its not enough, it will bring us back to the very disadvantaged situation that now breeds simps, why? Because in new-old world you have to be Chad, you have to endure, you have to sacrifice for foids and family, soon feminists will use it as an argument that “patriarchy makes men oppressed” we will end 4th wave feminism and delay it by 30 years but when it comes back in 5th wave of this disease, it will be brutal, it will murder all men.

Tradcons dismiss all of that evil as mere wokeness, they don’t learn gender theory, they don’t learn what these evil feminists are plotting against men, for the next 30 years the world will enjoy guns and BBQ but feminists will keep scheming and plotting and will find a way to overthrow the order again.

What we as incels need is in a way socialist, it’s not return to old Chad dictatorship where the strongest man rules, we need justice, we need equity, but this time working in favor of boys and men, it’s not traditional, it’s socialist.

I still support MAGA but it’s a futile hope that won’t solve any problems except giving us freedom of speech and safety, but normies will not listen to us then, they will not learn from past mistakes and become blackpilled, the history will just repeat as battle of good and evil is eternal.

Gen Z, better than millennials but with mentality of being slaves for society and women:

 

[dumbozhina]

maga is just a revenge on normies. i don't think it is in any case "hope". if i am american i would probably vote DJT.
there is no serious non - progressive socialist party in america, coz there's no industrial workers anymore.

 

[SewerPolarKoala]

maga is just a revenge on normies. i don't think it is in any case "hope". if i am american i would probably vote DJT.
there is no serious non - progressive socialist party in america, coz there's no industrial workers anymore.

I am not a socialist tho, I think MAGA is a hope for a counter-culture that will bring us back to times where 80% men were seen as trash not 99% like now


It won’t bring anything new it will just roll back to the old system that worked until it didn’t

They will bring back all the old vulnerabilities of the system without trying to do anything new.

 

[PhineasSpear]

The world's just better off reestablishing social (and economic) regulations.

 

[SewerPolarKoala]

The world's just better off reestablishing social (and economic) regulations.

it depends on what regulations do you mean

 

[PhineasSpear]

it depends on what regulations do you mean

Social: Enforcing the sexual contract (the main one), amongst other things (e.g. returning to a moralistic/puritanical state such as the proper use of shaming against for example promiscuity, the elimination of no-fault divorce). Difficult to implement without resorting to Draconian laws.

Economic: Impose regulations on financialization of basic commodities, actually intervene when companies become monopolistic as well as a more progressive tax system.

Most of the problems today is a combination of government inaction + people at the top of the hierarchy promoting, implementing, and execution their own interests at the expense of everybody else + the elimination of social regulations (or the use of morality to enslave and command obedience) + ill-fated idealist concepts like social liberalism + fiscal conservatism (libertarian ideology).

 

[SewerPolarKoala]

Social: Enforcing the sexual contract (the main one), amongst other things (e.g. returning to a moralistic/puritanical state such as the proper use of shaming against for example promiscuity, the elimination of no-fault divorce). Difficult to implement without resorting to Draconian laws.

Economic: Impose regulations on financialization of basic commodities, actually intervene when companies become monopolistic as well as a more progressive tax system.

Most of the problems today is a combination of government inaction + people at the top of the hierarchy promoting, implementing, and execution their own interests at the expense of everybody else + the elimination of social regulations (or the use of morality to enslave and command obedience) + ill-fated idealist concepts like social liberalism + fiscal conservatism (libertarian ideology).

I agree with the former and disagree with the latter

 

[PhineasSpear]

I agree with the former and disagree with the latter

Why the latter?

 

[Rick prime]

the Jews did too much damage we have to find another dimension where big yahu died in a car crash and the Israeli economy took a nose dive with America not being it's bitch.

 

[SewerPolarKoala]

Why the latter?

Economic regulation only serves women that are not able to hustle and earn for themselves, either men have to care for women or state has to through economic interventionism.

Capitalism promotes male competitiveness so it should be unadulterated

So I agree with social regulations but not with economic ones.

 

[SewerPolarKoala]

the Jews did too much damage we have to find another dimension where big yahu died in a car crash and the Israeli economy took a nose dive with America not being it's bitch.

The Jews are the good ones, secularism is evil tho, and so, Jewish secularism is the worst of all kinds

 

[Rick prime]

The Jews are the good ones, secularism is evil tho, and so, Jewish secularism is the worst of all kinds

 

[SewerPolarKoala]

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Fr, ask the Orthodox Jews

 

[Rick prime]

Fr, ask the Orthodox Jews

once you eat foreskins as a religious group and poisoning food, there's no going back orthrodox or any hard core coping mechanism. but it's badass for a user like you.

 

[SewerPolarKoala]

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once you eat foreskins as a religious group and poisoning food, there's no going back orthrodox or any hard core coping mechanism. but it's badass for a user like you.

“For user like you” and what does it mean

 

[PhineasSpear]

Economic regulation only serves women that are not able to hustle and earn for themselves, either men have to care for women or state has to through economic interventionism.

Women are not going to work regardless if there was regulation or not. They'll simply chase after men who have the most money which will rendered all minimum wage-earners into incels. Women in general wants men to care for them anyways

Capitalism promotes male competitiveness so it should be unadulterated

Unregulated capitalism will lead to all of those with significant wealth power to hoard all the commodities, which will leave men with barely enough scraps to go by and will inevitably lead to men not having enough to support families. The competition's gotta be regulated or else it's just a game where those at the top and their dynasty wins and everyone else inevitably loses.

 

[SewerPolarKoala]

Women are not going to work regardless if there was regulation or not. They'll simply chase after men who have the most money which will rendered all minimum wage-earners into incels. Women in general wants men to care for them anyways

Unregulated capitalism will lead to all of those with significant wealth power to hoard all the commodities, which will leave men with barely enough scraps to go by and will inevitably lead to men not having enough to support families. The competition's gotta be regulated or else it's just a game where those at the top and their dynasty wins and everyone else inevitably loses.

And if system is regulated everyone losses except the one that regulates it

 

[PhineasSpear]

And if system is regulated everyone losses except the one that regulates it

How? Under regulated capitalism, everybody is ensured to have basic commodities met and to gain it fairly (or atleast close to fairly) (unless the government is some kind of dictatorial nightmare and that's more on the government than it is the economy)

Unregulated capitalism is the formalization of the brutal state of nature; Too much ruthless (and sometimes unnecessary) competition and people intentionally screwing over others on the pursuit of wealth. This is not good for a socially harmonious society.

 

[SewerPolarKoala]

How? Under regulated capitalism, everybody is ensured to have basic commodities met and to gain it fairly (or atleast close to fairly) (unless the government is some kind of dictatorial nightmare and that's more on the government than it is the economy)

Unregulated capitalism is the formalization of the brutal state of nature; Too much ruthless (and sometimes unnecessary) competition and people intentionally screwing over others on the pursuit of wealth. This is not good for a socially harmonious society.

This fairness and “equal chances” is what fuels all that feminism

 

[SmhChan]

This fairness and “equal chances” is what fuels all that feminism

Feminism is literally capitalism and as far right as you can get. They sell themselves to the highest bidder. They censor the most.

You're still stuck in academic definitions like a typical out-of-touch male. You might as well be a soytard.

 

[PhineasSpear]

This fairness and “equal chances” is what fuels all that feminism

Feminism relies on unequal chances. If anything unregulated capitalism benefits feminism since they can just control businesses to mass-exploit male labor and use commodities as a hostage to enslave men.

 

[SmhChan]

Feminism relies on unequal chances. If anything unregulated capitalism benefits feminism since they can just control businesses to mass-exploit male labor and use commodities as a hostage to enslave men.

Not to mention how fucking warmongering capitalists are and foids feel empowered by wars since it's a perfect excuse for them to send men to die.

 

[SewerPolarKoala]

Feminism is literally capitalism and as far right as you can get. They sell themselves to the highest bidder. They censor the most.

You're still stuck in academic definitions like a typical out-of-touch male. You might as well be a soytard.

I wouldn’t call gender quotas capitalism. Also calling me a male? Are you a foid lurker or what

 

[SewerPolarKoala]

Feminism relies on unequal chances. If anything unregulated capitalism benefits feminism since they can just control businesses to mass-exploit male labor and use commodities as a hostage to enslave men.

If not socialism women wouldn’t have any wealth as they have no chance in well-paid jobs without gender quotas

 

[PhineasSpear]

If not socialism women wouldn’t have any wealth as they have no chance in well-paid jobs without gender quotas

Women entering the workforce warranted the lowering of wages, which benefits unregulated capitalism. This would be a capitalist's dream since they can maximize their profit while paying significantly less on the grounds the workforce now expanded (similar to how companies can pay illegal immigrants the below minimum wage since they provide cheap labor)

 

[SewerPolarKoala]

Women entering the workforce warranted the lowering of wages, which benefits unregulated capitalism. This would be a capitalist's dream since they can maximize their profit while paying significantly less on the grounds the workforce now expanded (similar to how companies can pay illegal immigrants the below minimum wage since they provide cheap labor)

Right, that’s why I support social and cultural regulations that would forbid women from working full time or STEM jobs