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Objective beauty is impossible and doesn't exist.

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Beauty is subjective.

I've never understood how anyone could hold the position that there exists objective standards of beauty. It should be obvious that this is false since people hold different opinions of beauty all the time. Different people can look at the same person, painting, sculpture etc. and have completely different opinions on its beauty. It's the exact same way different people find different foods or music to be pleasurable or not. Sensory input isn't interpreted the same way by all humans.

"But 99.99999% of humans would agree that a 22 year old supermodel is more attractive than a fat 97 year old woman"

This is what people get wrong about objectivity. 99% of people sharing the same opinion doesn't mean that the opinion is an objective fact. The reason that the overwhelming majority of people agree that a 22 year old supermodel is more beautiful than some old hag is because of instinct (i.e, humans finding youth more appealing as it indicates optimal reproductive capacity). Instincts vary across organisms and can determine people's biases and feelings so by definition, they're subjective.

"But mathematics proves objective standards of beauty because animal brains have a natural preference for symmetry, geometric simplicity and averages"

Again, the whole concept of beauty is based on perception. Anything solely based on perception is subjective by definition. If most people instinctually perceive symmetry and simplicity to be more attractive then that's their subjective view. Beauty is subjective.
 
You're coping, brocel. Everyone finds symmetry attractive. There's subjectivity in like whether you like blondes or brunettes but even that is objective because it has to do with your own genotype
 
This debate doesn't matter that much either way; if the majority of people find a certain trait attractive or unattractive, it's objective enough for them... :feelsjuice:

And they certainly won't be changing their views anytime soon. :feelsclown:
 
Beauty is subjective.

I've never understood how anyone could hold the position that there exists objective standards of beauty. It should be obvious that this is false since people hold different opinions of beauty all the time. Different people can look at the same person, painting, sculpture etc. and have completely different opinions on its beauty. It's the exact same way different people find different foods or music to be pleasurable or not. Sensory input isn't interpreted the same way by all humans.

"But 99.99999% of humans would agree that a 22 year old supermodel is more attractive than a fat 97 year old woman"

This is what people get wrong about objectivity. 99% of people sharing the same opinion doesn't mean that the opinion is an objective fact. The reason that the overwhelming majority of people agree that a 22 year old supermodel is more beautiful than some old hag is because of instinct (i.e, humans finding youth more appealing as it indicates optimal reproductive capacity). Instincts vary across organisms and can determine people's biases and feelings so by definition, they're subjective.

"But mathematics proves objective standards of beauty because animal brains have a natural preference for symmetry, geometric simplicity and averages"

Again, the whole concept of beauty is based on perception. Anything solely based on perception is subjective by definition. If most people instinctually perceive symmetry and simplicity to be more attractive then that's their subjective view. Beauty is subjective.
Shared subjectivity among humans on this topic I guess. Idk if that has a name. And jfl at all the posters who didn’t read the post and commented anyway based on the title
 
Copecel thread
 
neil-de-grasse-tyson-when-the-coping-is-too-strong.gif
 
It exists, but can be modified through gene editing and evolution
 
Male beauty is objective notice how most male models look similar
 
Majority set the standards.
 
Everyone clearly disagrees and show it with their behaviour. Foids go for chads and men want young attractive foids.
 
To say that beauty is subjective is not bluepilled. If most people like X, you're still screwed if you're Y. And it's not easy to change a culture.
 
It isn’t written in the universe that x is attentive and y isn’t, but for all practical purposes, insofar as the game theory of mating is concerned, yes there is objective beauty. A few 1 in a 1000 outliers with mental problems holding differing opinions doesn’t mean anything.
 
I love asians
 
Tell that to do ad companies
 
Find a Gigachad that any woman finds unattractive you can’t because looks is objective
 

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