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It's Over Nothing will change after High school

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If you were an incel in High school you will most likely be an incel for life. "but muh puberty!!! muh growthspirt!!! muh mewing" bullshit. Its all cope. At 17-18 (the time most people graduate) your face is almost completely developed unless you started puberty reeeeeeeeeeally late like at 16 or something. For height, you have a tiny hope for growing another 1-2 inches at MOST. The "growing into your early 20s" thing only applies to guys who started puberty really late and 16-18 yos with 1-2 more inches to grow. Yes, examples of going from a 5'7" high schoolcel to 6'2" college Chad have happened, but those are very very rare outliers (like 0.001%) and usually these people started puberty very late as well.

I'm 17 5'8.25" now and 99% sure I'm done growing. I noticed my face stopped changing at 16. Had my growth sprout from 12-14. Even if I magically grow to 5'9" or 5'10" (5'10" VERY unlikely) in my 20s, it still wont matter because I have been and always will be ugly and autistic. Being a KHHV wouldn't help either.
 
If you're in the U.S. yeah, your absolute best chance at a sexual relationship is before you become a legal adult since there's statutory rape laws that limit the population pool of men you're competing with. After high school, foids have a massive numerical advantage since they're really no societal stigma about a 20-something being with a 40 year old and all ages in between.
 
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Higschool never ends:cryfeels:
 
Teenagers are not incels.
Not because they still can change physically, but because they usually haven't experienced enough failure to know for sure they are hopeless. Getting rejected by their oneitis or 2-3 girls or not even that, just walking around existing hoping they'll somehow spontaneously get a girlfriend.

Then at 22 they really start trying and at 22 and 4 months they get a girlfriend and suddenly they are "ex-incel". No asshole, you were never an incel to begin with, you were just a lazy coward.
 
these days it's just about settled in your teens whether you will get laid normally or wait until you're 45

theoretically you could escape by "trying harder", in practice, every single person you meet will do their best, consciously or subconsciously, to make sure that a 19+ year old virgin stays a virgin
 
In high school I looked like a small child. I thought “Well after I graduate I’ll develop more.” I did to some degree but guess what? Still a faggot no one wants.
Teenagers are not incels.
Not because they still can change physically, but because they usually haven't experienced enough failure to know for sure they are hopeless. Getting rejected by their oneitis or 2-3 girls or not even that, just walking around existing hoping they'll somehow spontaneously get a girlfriend.

Then at 22 they really start trying and at 22 and 4 months they get a girlfriend and suddenly they are "ex-incel". No asshole, you were never an incel to begin with, you were just a lazy coward.

If you have to try it’s over man. Normal people don’t autistically approach people they don’t know to try to get a girlfriend. They meet through their social circle and it happens naturally. Today it’s taboo to walk up to someone you don’t know and if you’re an unattractive guy it’s even worse
 
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If you were an incel in High school you will most likely be an incel for life. "but muh puberty!!! muh growthspirt!!! muh mewing" bullshit. Its all cope. At 17-18 (the time most people graduate) your face is almost completely developed unless you started puberty reeeeeeeeeeally late like at 16 or something. For height, you have a tiny hope for growing another 1-2 inches at MOST. The "growing into your early 20s" thing only applies to guys who started puberty really late and 16-18 yos with 1-2 more inches to grow. Yes, examples of going from a 5'7" high schoolcel to 6'2" college Chad have happened, but those are very very rare outliers (like 0.001%) and usually these people started puberty very late as well.

I'm 17 5'8.25" now and 99% sure I'm done growing. I noticed my face stopped changing at 16. Had my growth sprout from 12-14. Even if I magically grow to 5'9" or 5'10" (5'10" VERY unlikely) in my 20s, it still wont matter because I have been and always will be ugly and autistic. Being a KHHV wouldn't help either.

comes from not being able to take growth hormones and testosterone while being a kid

fcking society prevents us this knowledge and wanna keep us weak / slaves
 
these days it's just about settled in your teens whether you will get laid normally or wait until you're 45

theoretically you could escape by "trying harder", in practice, every single person you meet will do their best, consciously or subconsciously, to make sure that a 19+ year old virgin stays a virgin


the truth of life is men's objective is to destroy other men in every way possible
 
the truth of life is men's objective is to destroy other men in every way possible
some dude you know finds out you have trouble with women
first thing going on in his mind, consciously or subconsciously is "don't bring this guy anywhere cool with you"
 
some dude you know finds out you have trouble with women
first thing going on in his mind, consciously or subconsciously is "don't bring this guy anywhere cool with you"

Do guys with full time jobs even hang out anymore? Most are too tired to even go to the gym. When I ask them about it they ask me how I energy to play ball after work.
 
Things will always be bad. There's no exit.
 
also highchool is the only time in your life when you'll have a chance to deflower a virgin.
 
Do guys with full time jobs even hang out anymore? Most are too tired to even go to the gym. When I ask them about it they ask me how I energy to play ball after work.
idk lol, my friend managed to ditch his job for a WFH setup so he has more time for gym and hanging out with the girls that blow up his phone every weekened because they need a chadlite guy... mostly to chaperone them through the bars and city centers so betas won't approach
 
If you have to try it’s over man. Normal people don’t autistically approach people they don’t know to try to get a girlfriend. They meet through their social circle and it happens naturally. Today it’s taboo to walk up to someone you don’t know and if you’re an unattractive guy it’s even worse
This is true. Basically over for sub 8s
these days it's just about settled in your teens whether you will get laid normally or wait until you're 45

theoretically you could escape by "trying harder", in practice, every single person you meet will do their best, consciously or subconsciously, to make sure that a 19+ year old virgin stays a virgin
Wait really? Why? Normies are so brain dead lmao
some dude you know finds out you have trouble with women
first thing going on in his mind, consciously or subconsciously is "don't bring this guy anywhere cool with you"
This part makes sense though. This is typical normie hive-mind thinking.
 
yeah I was too optimistic at the end of high school thinking that things were going to change and that females will be "different". It's the same old shit, man.
 
Wait really? Why? Normies are so brain dead lmao
because women will avoid you on purpose if you never fucked, even if they like you, you have to lie about it and be convincing

and both sexes will just not invite you anywhere cool, there's plenty of places where people are having some kind of large house party where everyone's drinking and has low inhibitions, but you and me are never there, we're only at the retarded couples' parties where nothing interesting happens
 
You could be a low-tier normie who just needs a fat wallet to escape inceldom, but betabuxxing really isn't much better, and can even be worse depending on the circumstances.
 
because women will avoid you on purpose if you never fucked, even if they like you, you have to lie about it and be convincing

and both sexes will just not invite you anywhere cool, there's plenty of places where people are having some kind of large house party where everyone's drinking and has low inhibitions, but you and me are never there, we're only at the retarded couples' parties where nothing interesting happens
Youre right. But I was talking more about why normies would be mad about a former 20yo virgin "ascending" (getting laid). Wouldnt they be happy for him cause he'd no longer be an "evil inkwell"? You said that they're actively trying to stop their success.
 
highschoolcels should not be optimistic about going to college
 
Youre right. But I was talking more about why normies would be mad about a former 20yo virgin "ascending" (getting laid). Wouldnt they be happy for him cause he'd no longer be an "evil inkwell"? You said that they're actively trying to stop their success.
there are many mechanisms
1. the darwinism aspect, someone being helped to spread their genes feels disgusting to them, especially a male, the more time a male has spent alone the more they feel like there was a reason for that and that they shouldn't be helped.
2. the status effect, people try to create a hierarchy and a pecking order for everyone, and resist change in this hierarchy. well guess what that means if you are fucking incel, it means you have to stay one.
3. the quid pro quo aspect, you're asking for people to help you with something that you can't help them with yourself, so people are just not going to give a shit about helping you. sharing their friends and party nights with you when you have nothing to give back? fuck that lol, how about you stay in your hole and listen to what a cool party I went to last night now that I'm hungover and have nothing better to do.

this shit probably sounds like a full on schizoid attack to you but I've put myself out there and (used to) contribute to others wellbeing, there were many people around me that could have helped me, and they never did, this is roughly what I consider to be the reasons for them listening to my problems and then not lifting a finger.
 
life is an eternal high school
 
there are many mechanisms
1. the darwinism aspect, someone being helped to spread their genes feels disgusting to them, especially a male, the more time a male has spent alone the more they feel like there was a reason for that and that they shouldn't be helped.
2. the status effect, people try to create a hierarchy and a pecking order for everyone, and resist change in this hierarchy. well guess what that means if you are fucking incel, it means you have to stay one.
3. the quid pro quo aspect, you're asking for people to help you with something that you can't help them with yourself, so people are just not going to give a shit about helping you. sharing their friends and party nights with you when you have nothing to give back? fuck that lol, how about you stay in your hole and listen to what a cool party I went to last night now that I'm hungover and have nothing better to do.

this shit probably sounds like a full on schizoid attack to you but I've put myself out there and (used to) contribute to others wellbeing, there were many people around me that could have helped me, and they never did, this is roughly what I consider to be the reasons for them listening to my problems and then not lifting a finger.
Ah ok that makes much more sense now. At first, I thought you meant that normies would try to cockblock the 20yo virgin whenever he gets close. Basically normies interfere when he starts getting success on his own. Or something like that.
 
Ah ok that makes much more sense now. At first, I thought you meant that normies would try to cockblock the 20yo virgin whenever he gets close. Basically normies interfere when he starts getting success on his own. Or something like that.
i mean they do that too if you show up with a girl and they start joking about it and acting like you just did something super amazing, giving away your incel status, but it's a soft interference and not actively cockblocking you on purpose
 
highschoolcels should not be optimistic about going to college
When i graduate high school and if i do go to college, I'll probably rope in my dorm where my roommate will see my body in the closet.
 
JFL, if you already hit puberty and whores still treat you like shit, it is BEYOND OVER, if you think that you will get any better in your 20s you are coping hard and shouldn't be here as your ass is still bluepilled.
 
nothing will change if u missed teen love
 
this shit probably sounds like a full on schizoid attack to you but I've put myself out there and (used to) contribute to others wellbeing, there were many people around me that could have helped me, and they never did, this is roughly what I consider to be the reasons for them listening to my problems and then not lifting a finger.
I vividly remember my best friend (who I know since kindergarten) around the summer when everyone was turning 15 and booze and drugs started bein consumed and parties with trashy girls were being thrown, I remember when he just didn't invite me once. Not once did he ask if I wanted to come with him or introduce me to people that he went everywhere with.
This was the start of my slow descent into isolation and crippling loneliness.
I was a normal kid with a large social circle before that. The moment genders started mixing I got cut loose.
I don't know if it's a coincidence or what.
 
I vividly remember my best friend (who I know since kindergarten) around the summer when everyone was turning 15 and booze and drugs started bein consumed and parties with trashy girls were being thrown, I remember when he just didn't invite me once. Not once did he ask if I wanted to come with him or introduce me to people that he went everywhere with.
This was the start of my slow descent into isolation and crippling loneliness.
I was a normal kid with a large social circle before that. The moment genders started mixing I got cut loose.
I don't know if it's a coincidence or what.
Yes, I had a lot of trouble getting into the "in-crowd" and making that transition.
Pretty sure it wasn't accidental.
 
I vividly remember my best friend (who I know since kindergarten) around the summer when everyone was turning 15 and booze and drugs started bein consumed and parties with trashy girls were being thrown, I remember when he just didn't invite me once. Not once did he ask if I wanted to come with him or introduce me to people that he went everywhere with.
This was the start of my slow descent into isolation and crippling loneliness.
I was a normal kid with a large social circle before that. The moment genders started mixing I got cut loose.
I don't know if it's a coincidence or what.
here's a fun anecdote, one of my top friends during that era, he was kind of halfway in and out of the cool group, he went to some of their outings, but wasn't really a favored member, and he didn't fuck women in that group

but still felt the urge to slow me down and kneecap me, lol, like one of the "tough guys", one of the "in guys", nonetheless

what a fucking moron
 
here's a fun anecdote, one of my top friends during that era, he was kind of halfway in and out of the cool group, he went to some of their outings, but wasn't really a favored member, and he didn't fuck women in that group

but still felt the urge to slow me down and kneecap me, lol, like one of the "tough guys", one of the "in guys", nonetheless

what a fucking moron
High value men or women don't ever waste their time bringing losers down.
They don't need it to achieve contrast at all. It's always some sneaky faggot trying to be cool, especially if they have an audience. Absolutely hysterical
 
the worst period of my life has been from 18-24 so good luck kiddo
 
High value men or women don't ever waste their time bringing losers down.
They don't need it to achieve contrast at all. It's always some sneaky faggot trying to be cool, especially if they have an audience. Absolutely hysterical
childhood is pretty awesome, even if you aren't at the top of the pack

oh wait, no it isn't
 
also highchool is the only time in your life when you'll have a chance to deflower a virgin.
No man, you're thinking legit middle school.

I'd say college is truly the last chance to "ascend"
 
I agree. I stopped growing and looking different by 17 and I'm still treated like shit.
No man, you're thinking legit middle school.
This. Most of the girls I met lost their virginity in 7th-8th grade.
 

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