Nofap may actually be working

[janoycresva]

NoFap is complete cope unless you have an active social life, and are atleast normie tier. If EITHER of those is missing, it is completely useless. What good is having all that excess energy and motivation if you're just going to rot anyways?

I speak from experience btw. My longest streak was about 140+ days. After a while I stopped counting. But I passed the 3 month period that they always talk about.

Honestly you’re probably right in that is it a giant cope, especially, as you said, if you don’t have a social life. I’m just curious as to how it affects my inhibition levels around people, more so in general, it’s for spiritual reasons. One of my main hopes is that a Christian afterlife is real, this is my way of showing a devotion to God. Much like fasting.

Good for you. I can never get past the first week but I'm still trying.
Oh and here's some advice: take ZMA. If you do end up relapsing, it greatly reduces the fatigue that comes with it. I've found that taking ZMA has similar effects on me as NoFap.

It would have gotten you a girlfriend a few decades ago if you weren't deformed and just mentalcel. But NoFap cannot reverse the effects of technological advancements such as Tinder.

Thanks for the tip bro, I’ll look into it

Congrats man. Just curious since you're this far in noFap, at what day did you get to the point where you didn't feel terrible about yourself because of the unbelievable urge for sex/contact?

Weirdly worded question, I'm just asking because I'll try it but 3-4 days in I get painfully depressed and need to fap just to feel those few minutes of "independence" or not needing a female, and then go back to feeling sorry for myself. Does it get better after it gets worse?

Lol I’m gonna get flamed for this but I just think how bad I’m going to feel after fapping, being horny and not being able to fap doesn’t personally make me depressed, just anxious. You have to get over that initial urge when it shows up, just know it’ll disappear in an hour. Again though, it’s different for everyone, I had no libido after the first week of abstaining.

 

[LastGerman]

These idiots don't seem to understand that you can literally just take a multivitamin and some L-arginine to boost blood flow, and you'd feel better than if you did nofap (and it won't be a placebo in this case

Already doing that on top of that. I take arginine after hitting the gym.

 

[turbocuckcel_7000]

Cope, if you are an incel you haven't gorged yourself on shit, and you are coping by trying to convince yourself you've "had your fill"

Reminds me of this Red Pill Comic

More specifically this section:
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You saying you "gorged yourself on degeneracy" is like this cuck in the comic saying he "I used to party too"

You didn't really get to enjoy shit, you are coping, you haven't experienced actual degeneracy yet, you are cucking yourself out of pleasure for no reason




These idiots don't seem to understand that you can literally just take a multivitamin and some L-arginine to boost blood flow, and you'd feel better than if you did nofap (and it won't be a placebo in this case)

So what? Real degeneracy isn't available to me anyway, what's the point in choking on porn and other degenerate shit until you die or become some tranny anal obsessed freak. To me it just feels like a waste of time and energy with no real positive end point. You seem to think I want to personally convince you to stop visiting whores and watching porn or something.

There's also no reason why you can't combine supplementation with lack of masturbation and see if there are compounding benefits.

 

[janoycresva]

Real degeneracy isn't available to me anyway, what's the point in choking on porn and other degenerate shit until you die or become some tranny anal obsessed freak. To me it just feels like a waste of time and energy with no real positive end point. You seem to think I want to personally convince you to stop visiting whores and watching porn or something.

This is a good point tbh

 

[BlkPillPres]

So what? Real degeneracy isn't available to me anyway

Are whores not available?

until you die or become some tranny anal obsessed freak.

So like I said:

you guys are truly just masochist faggots

That line there is one of the biggest indicators of closet faggotry I've ever seen on this site, and that's next to @NEETAndTidy whose entire thread also made me think he was closeted and I pointed it out, he was shorty after banned after being doxxed as a guy dating a tranny

https://incels.is/threads/do-you-li...hey-would-be-easier-to-date-read-this.123341/

The fact that you think watching porn leads to faggotry alludes to you being some closet faggot in denial

There's also no reason why you can't combine supplementation with lack of masturbation and see if there are compounding benefits.

Yes there is a reason, common sense, there won't be any compounding benefits because nofap doesn't have any benefits period on its own, its a placebo

This is a good point tbh

In what way, please validate this statement, what was the good point in it, he literally made no point at all

1. Real degeneracy is available to him, he just has a self imposed restriction that keeps him from it

2. He's arguing that porn leads to faggotry, which just alludes to him being a faggot

3. He ironically calls it a waste of time and energy yet it requires more effort not to fap than to fap, also alludes to him being one of those idiots that "edges" for hours rather than being done in like 15 minutes

4. Next part was a strawman saying I think he wants me stop porn and escortcelling, I don't, I never said anything that would allude to that

5. The last point is just retarded, nofap is a placebo, so there will be no compounding benefits, its all in his head, he's likely a masochistic closet fag that gets off on denying himself pleasure

 

[janoycresva]

Are whores not available?



So like I said:


That line there is one of the biggest indicators of closet faggotry I've ever seen on this site, and that's next to @NEETAndTidy whose entire thread also made me think he was closeted and I pointed it out, he was shorty after banned after being doxxed as a guy dating a tranny

https://incels.is/threads/do-you-li...hey-would-be-easier-to-date-read-this.123341/

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The fact that you think watching porn leads to faggotry alludes to you being some closet faggot in denial



Yes there is a reason, common sense, there won't be any compounding benefits because nofap doesn't have any benefits period on its own, its a placebo

Dude I mean there are plenty of anecdotes out there from men who started out watching straight vanilla porn for many years, only for it to progress to BDSM, and then to other revolting shit and then to trannys and so on and so on. I don’t know how you’re able to deny this. The human mind isn’t designed to be exposed to images of so many naked women. PMO does release high amounts of dopamine. Eventually after looking at so many vanilla images you’ll become desensitized, you’ll start producing less dopamine in response to those vanilla images, your receptors will down-regulate, and you’ll possibly develop less grey matter in your brain. As a result you’ll start looking for a different stimuli to get that hit of dopamine and usually it’s in the form of more extreme porn. The people who don’t go to the extreme side of things or the people who can’t go any further than they already have will experience erectile disfunction.

I mean this is really common sense that porn can easily lead to someone watching anal tranny porn and these trends are pretty well documented anecdotally. You’re not a closet faggot if you started watching lesbian porn for 10 years and then by year 20 of porn watching you find yourself jerking off to trannys. JFL.

 

[BlkPillPres]

I mean this is really common sense that porn can easily lead to someone watching anal tranny porn and these trends are pretty well documented anecdotally.

No those men were faggots to begin with and porn just gave them the excuse they needed to work their way towards it, your argument here is basically all men are faggots waiting to happen, not sure if you realize that

You sound like a feminist right now, you might as well say - "sexuality is on a spectrum you homophobe" while you're at it

Whenever I'm browsing for porn, i'll be erect as I'm scrolling by the thumbnails, and if I scroll by a thumbnail and its a gay scene (some sites don't filter them out properly) I instantly start losing my erection and going flaccid. Do I have magic powers, or is it just that I'm not a faggot?

 

[2340922]

Good for you bro I can't even last an hour on NoFap much less a day. Stay strong.

i wish i could do no fap

 

[janoycresva]

No those men were faggots to begin with and porn just gave them the excuse they needed to work their way towards it, your argument here is basically all men are faggots waiting to happen, not sure if you realize that

You sound like a feminist right now, you might as well say - "sexuality is on a spectrum you homophobe" while you're at it

Whenever I'm browsing for porn, i'll be erect as I'm scrolling by the thumbnails, and if I scroll by a thumbnail and its a gay scene (some sites don't filter them out properly) I instantly start losing my erection and going flaccid. Do I have magic powers, or is it just that I'm not a faggot?

I never said that all men are faggots waiting to happen. Porn addiction doesn’t have to lead to trannys, it does for some men, for others it may lead to BDSM or piss or other demented shit. But I will reiterate, if someone watched lesbian porn for 10 years and became desensitized to it (because of a production of less dopamine) and then started watching tranny porn because it gave him a new higher hit of dopamine, then that person isn’t a closet faggot. It’s ridiculous that you even think that, that person is a victim of too much PMO. Again, there are tons of men who have stated that over the course of many years, porn has led them to watching more extreme and hardcore shit. You, personally, may not venture into more extreme porn, that’s great, but you’re not every man in the world.

You’re also saying that @turbocuckcel_7000 has access to degeneracy? Does he? Maybe he lives in a country that doesn’t allow prostitution or maybe he doesn’t want an STD.

Stopping porn watching, not masturbation, does benefit a lot of men. Maybe it doesn’t benefit you but it does help rewire the brain for those who’ve struggled with being addicted to it.

 

[littlemanhikicel]

No fap is a cope but fapping is a cope too... So if you want to no fap do it man , maybe you feel psycologically better doing that.

 

[BlkPillPres]

Porn addiction doesn’t have to lead to trannys, it does for some men

Yes, me who were bi or gay to begin with, my point exactly, also comparing BDSM to tranny porn is a false comparison, one can just be "extreme heterosexuality", the other is homosexuality, a completely different lane, to compare the two like they are all points on the same line is ridiculous

 

[turbocuckcel_7000]

Are whores not available?



So like I said:


That line there is one of the biggest indicators of closet faggotry I've ever seen on this site, and that's next to @NEETAndTidy whose entire thread also made me think he was closeted and I pointed it out, he was shorty after banned after being doxxed as a guy dating a tranny

https://incels.is/threads/do-you-li...hey-would-be-easier-to-date-read-this.123341/

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The fact that you think watching porn leads to faggotry alludes to you being some closet faggot in denial



Yes there is a reason, common sense, there won't be any compounding benefits because nofap doesn't have any benefits period on its own, its a placebo





In what way, please validate this statement, what was the good point in it, he literally made no point at all

1. Real degeneracy is available to him, he just has a self imposed restriction that keeps him from it

2. He's arguing that porn leads to faggotry, which just alludes to him being a faggot

3. He ironically calls it a waste of time and energy yet it requires more effort not to fap than to fap, also alludes to him being one of those idiots that "edges" for hours rather than being done in like 15 minutes

4. Next part was a strawman saying I think he wants me stop porn and escortcelling, I don't, I never said anything that would allude to that

5. The last point is just retarded, nofap is a placebo, so there will be no compounding benefits, its all in his head, he's likely a masochistic closet fag that gets off on denying himself pleasure

Honestly reading this I am starting to realise you are just a troll using this forum to blow off steam.

Here's yet another giant angry post where you call people idiots and faggots, and even use their attempt to explain their intentions and de-escalate conflict to again call them faggots and mentally ill based on tenuous reasoning and assumptions.

If you actually asked, read or searched my posts you'd find out what I think about edging or prostitution, but instead of doing that you take the chance of calling me an idiot again.

Honestly I think you need some time off because your posts are frequently a mess of baiting others into conflict, insulting them for no reason, and offering little real content like personal anecdotes and observations.

 

[BlkPillPres]

No fap is a cope but fapping is a cope too... So if you want to no fap do it man , maybe you feel psycologically better doing that.

You have a very vague and non-specific definition of "cope" then, if doing something for a make believe placebo benefit is just as much of a cope as doing something to relieve stress and gain pleasure, then what isn't a cope, is going for a walk a cope?, is watching tv or doing anything entertaining a cope?

What isn't a cope with the flimsy definition you are portraying?

Based on what you are saying its like you think basically everything is a cope, and if basically everything is a cope then basically nothing is a cope

 

[janoycresva]

Yes, me who were bi or gay to begin with, my point exactly, also comparing BDSM to tranny porn is a false comparison, one can just be "extreme heterosexuality", the other is homosexuality, a completely different lane, to compare the two like they are all points on the same line is ridiculous

Men who were bi or gay to begin with watched straight and or lesbian porn for many years? Why wouldn’t they just immediately start watching tranny porn or gay porn? “It’s not the porns fault, it’s the fact that they were faggots all along”. JFL

 

[BlkPillPres]

insulting them for no reason

what's the point in choking on porn and other degenerate shit until you die or become some tranny anal obsessed freak.

There's also no reason why you can't combine supplementation with lack of masturbation and see if there are compounding benefits.

These two lines here show that the insults are justified and you are in fact an idiot, if you believe that porn leads to homosexuality and nofap isn't just a placebo, you are an idiot, I don't know what else to tell you, water is wet, you know full well how illogical those two statements are, and if someone said anything equally as illogical you'd think they were stupid too

 

[speedtypingincel]

haha when the cope is to strong. right, youre actually a chad, you just are a mentalcel bruh. because women totally don't do the approaching bro. nah, men do the approaching bro. haha. jfl at this level of cope.

if you have to approach, it is already over. women have unlimited options. she will choose what she is interested in. you cannot get to this point just because you are "autistic mentalcel" jfl.

youre coping is almost unbelievable. you actually think that getting horny enough to spew shit at chicks means that one is going to do anything with you.

GET THIS BRO
WOMEN COME TO YOU IF THEY WANT YOU.
IF YOU HAVE TO APPROACH, SHE IS NOT INTERESTED.

nofap is just another elaborate way to fend of suicide thoughts. "damn, I failed at day 326, but I totally felt my hyper sexual attraction coming on, I was getting amazing vibes from chicks. I totally think if I could have gotten to day 371, I could have had a convo with one"

jfl.

kill yourself right fucking now if you think there is ANY difference in regards to your inceldom between fapping and not fapping.

fucking die mother fucker die mother fucker die

From some anecdotal evidence I have gathered on the topic, all the "superpowers" come from semen retention, not horniness (JFL).

It basically improves the sperm quality and that is visible on your "aura".

But it's still self-improvement bullshit. Attractive men have good genetics without nofap.

 

[Deleted member 8353]

It's okay to allow yourself some pleasure you know?

Either way, nofap is bullshit.

 

[BlkPillPres]

Men who were bi or gay to begin with watched straight and or lesbian porn for many years? Why wouldn’t they just immediately start watching tranny porn or gay porn?

So at this point its apparent you don't get what the term "closet faggot" means, they are gay and in denial, porn was just a means for them to slowly coax themselves into accepting more and more gay things as "acceptable", they didn't just immedaitely jump to gay and tranny porn because they didn't want to think of themselves as "gay", they had push themselves into gayer and gayer shit bit by bit so that they wouldn't feel bad, almost every guy I speak to online that watches tranny porn STILL THINKS THEY ARE STRAIGHT, these guys aren't operating on logic, you really expect them to do whats logical and just go straight to gay shit, they are lying to themselves.

 

[littlemanhikicel]

You have a very vague and non-specific definition of "cope" then, if doing something for a make believe placebo benefit is just as much of a cope as doing something to relieve stress and gain pleasure, then what isn't a cope, is going for a walk a cope?, is watching tv or doing anything entertaining a cope?

What isn't a cope with the flimsy definition you are portraying?

Based on what you are saying its like you think basically everything is a cope, and if basically everything is a cope then basically nothing is a cope

Fap is a cope because you can emulate sex and that's you can't have as an incel. Of course is agood cope but for example I usually feel like shit not only for the less dopamine in my brain is too because that jizz in my hands remembers me how a loser I am tbh.

 

[janoycresva]

So at this point its apparent you don't get what the term "closet faggot" means, they are gay and in denial, porn was just a means for them to slowly coax themselves into accepting more and more gay things as "acceptable", they didn't just immedaitely jump to gay and tranny porn because they didn't want to think as themselves as gay, they had push themselves into gayer and gayer shit bit by bit so that they wouldn't feel bad, almost every guy I speak to online that watches tranny porn STILL THINKS THEY ARE STRAIGHT, these guys aren't operating on logic, you really expect them to do whats logical and just go straight to gay shit, they are lying to themselves.

Dude I've spoken to people who started watching porn when they were 10 years old and by 13 years old they weren't watching gayer stuff, their addiction progressed to them watching lesbian bukkakes and lesbian BDSM before they even progressed to watching straight male on female porn. I'm sorry but you're just completely wrong on this. Many people start out watching porn with absolutely zero attraction trannys but progress to it over the course of many years, how the fuck were they initially gay if they were able to get off on lesbian porn with no men in the scenes for years on end? Don't tell me that impulsive 10 year olds trick themselves into watching straight porn because they're ashamed of being gay, that's utter horse shit.

 

[Blacktarpill]

I fap so much tbh, i need to slow it down.

 

[Deleted member 8353]

I fap so much tbh, i need to slow it down.

Lessfap, now!

 

[Blacktarpill]

Lessfap, now!

Definitely. I fap atleast 4 times a day. Im addicted to fapping.

 

[Joelossus]

Definitely. I fap atleast 4 times a day. Im addicted to fapping.

What's you personal record? Mine is 7 times a day.

 

[Blacktarpill]

What's you personal record? Mine is 7 times a day.

9 or 10.Maybe even more i dont know.

 

[turbocuckcel_7000]

These two lines here show that the insults are justified and you are in fact an idiot, if you believe that porn leads to homosexuality and nofap isn't just a placebo, you are an idiot, I don't know what else to tell you, water is wet, you know full well how illogical those two statements are, and if someone said anything equally as illogical you'd think they were stupid too

Then you have utterly failed to read my post and have taken everything personally, to the point of calling me an idiot and a faggot like 50 times in a monumental shitpost.

Almost every man on Earth, myself included, has watched porn at some point, and almost every man, because of how the digital medium works, has at some point binged on porn, watched dozens of videos in quick succession, and had "sketchy" material suggested to them by algorithms and ads.
There's no point denying that porn delivery networks are trying to increase the time you spend watching porn and trying to attract you towards incestuous, gay and transsexual content.
This is precisely what I am talking about with my remarks, none of it is a personal attack.

Meanwhile nofap could have plenty of benefits for a given person EVEN IF it is close to a placebo, which are proven to work anyway, where the practice only has psychological effects like alleviating feelings of guilt and dependence, and creating a sense of deeper control over your life or just a strong change in behavior and mindset that is likely to have cascading effects, when so many of us post here about being trapped in repetitive and unproductive routines.
You cannot realise something so simple and yet call other people idiots.

 

[BlkPillPres]

Fap is a cope because you can emulate sex and that's you can't have as an incel. Of course is agood cope but for example I usually feel like shit not only for the less dopamine in my brain is too because that jizz in my hands remembers me how a loser I am tbh.

I think you are stretching the definition of "cope" a bit, the usual implication of cope I see conveyed by users and always understood is:

1. One doing something and convincing themselves that it is a suitable substitute for what they are missing out on

2. One doing something in an effort to attain something else in vain (because said thing will never let them get it)

Nobody who is masturbating is telling themselves it is as good as sex or will ever be "enough"

So fapping is not a cope (unless you are actually telling yourself its as good as or better than sex, that would be coping)

However nofap fits part two of the definition perfectly, nofappers are actually doing nofap with the belief in mind that they will attain something out of it, when its really just a placebo

There's no point denying that porn delivery networks are trying to increase the time you spend watching porn and trying to attract you towards incestuous, gay and transsexual content.

That doesn't matter if you aren't gay

If everytime you go to a restaurant they try to offer you their daily special of a shit sandwich, whose fault is it if you order and eat it, not theirs, you must actually want to see how shit tastes if you order it JFL

Meanwhile nofap could have plenty of benefits for a given person EVEN IF it is close to a placebo

Now I know you don't know what the word placebo means, it doesn't always mean you trick yourself into gaining an actual benefit, in the case of nofap its that you trick yourself into THINKING you gained an actual benefit, you didn't actually get an energy boost, or your mind isn't working faster, you just THINK that is whats happening, but nothing is happening, you are wasting your time and coping

Just admit you are a masochist, who the hell admits that something is a placebo and they and yield better benefits with multivitamins, yet still chooses to starve themselves sexually, just admit you'd miss the feeling you get from doing nofap and stop lying to yourself, because that's the only difference between supplementation and nofap, sexual starvation, that's the only part that's different between the two, instead of supplementing and getting an actual benefit you'd rather go out of your way and do nofap just so you can hold onto the sexual starvation aspects, that's how it looks, because there is no logical reason to do nofap