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Serious Nobody is born gay.

I almost became gay from low self-eseem and no hope with girls.

Homosexuality is degeneracy and the proof is that it is biologically unnatural, as children can't be conceived through gay intercourse. Lol @ fag apologists.
This planet is overpopulated and I wouldn't use an appeal to nature fallacy. Some people are born this way and some are not.
 
This planet is overpopulated and I wouldn't use an appeal to nature fallacy. Some people are born this way and some are not.
Excuse me, but this shit is too much to handle. How the fuck does nature know the planet is overpopulated ? Does nature has awareness or consciousness to know this ? How can nature make people magically gays because the planet is overpopulated ? What the fuck is even nature ? Because this shit doesn't make sense to a 3 years old. I honestly really can't believe that most people believe this shit.
 
Excuse me, but this shit is too much to handle. How the fuck does nature know the planet is overpopulated ? Does nature has awareness or consciousness to know this ? How can nature make people magically gays because the planet is overpopulated ? What the fuck is even nature ? Because this shit doesn't make sense to a 3 years old. I honestly really can't believe that most people believe this shit.
It seems like you kind of misunderstood my comment. I never said that gays were created because of overpopulation. Not being able to make children is just a good thing nowadays.

"Homosexuality is degeneracy and the proof is that it is biologically unnatural, as children can't be conceived through gay intercourse. Lol @ fag apologists." This is an appeal.to nature fallacy because our natural state is used to morally justify certain things
 
Excuse me, but this shit is too much to handle. How the fuck does nature know the planet is overpopulated ? Does nature has awareness or consciousness to know this ? How can nature make people magically gays because the planet is overpopulated ? What the fuck is even nature ? Because this shit doesn't make sense to a 3 years old. I honestly really can't believe that most people believe this shit.
It's also interesting how there are less gays in overpopulated places like India and China but way more gay people in less ooverpopulated places like America and europe.
 
I belive that being gay is developed. And once something is developed you can't simply choose to turn that off.
You can make spiritual or emotional commitments to change it, tbh.
 
It seems like you kind of misunderstood my comment. I never said that gays were created because of overpopulation. Not being able to make children is just a good thing nowadays.
Yeah maybe i misunderstood it, but anyways the nature argument is far too weird and doesn't make sense to me and i always like to question people about how they believe this shit or understand it.
 
All gays are mentally broken. Gay men commit a disproportionate amount of child sex crimes compared to their % of population. They are glorified by the media and beyond reproach. Thankfully they also have a large chance of suicide so most will die out before they get too old.
 
It's also interesting how there are less gays in overpopulated places like India and China but way more gay people in less ooverpopulated places like America and europe.
Yeah that shit is retarded. There's no entity called nature with awareness to do all that shit stupid people think it does. It should be extremely obvious that this life follows a very complicated system set by a god.
 
In most cases

Gay men = Gay because women are terrible, expensive, and society is feminist

Gay women = Gay for political feminist reasons
 
You can make spiritual or emotional commitments to change it, tbh.
so why won't you make spiritual and emotional commitments to become a nt low inhib pua master with fun personality? because that's impossible. I don't see why @Stanx22 even brought crime to this conversation. Being a faggot doesn't hurt anyone. You should be grateful because they make the dating pool less stacked.

Imagine being a rival of this guy
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I belive that being gay is developed. And once something is developed you can't simply choose to turn that off.
Maybe what you're saying is true, but we both agree that no one is born gay, so we're on the same page anyways.
 
All gays are mentally broken. Gay men commit a disproportionate amount of child sex crimes compared to their % of population. They are glorified by the media and beyond reproach. Thankfully they also have a large chance of suicide so most will die out before they get too old.
Sadly homosexuality is becoming more accepted and celebrated so more and more gays will not suicide.
 
so why won't you make spiritual and emotional commitments to become a nt low inhib pua master with fun personality? because that's impossible. I don't see why @Stanx22 even brought crime to this conversation. Being a faggot doesn't hurt anyone. You should be grateful because they make the dating pool less stacked.

Imagine being a rival of this guy
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I did and I am low inhib now and can be NT when I want to be LOL
 
so why won't you make spiritual and emotional commitments to become a nt low inhib pua master with fun personality? because that's impossible. I don't see why @Stanx22 even brought crime to this conversation. Being a faggot doesn't hurt anyone. You should be grateful because they make the dating pool less stacked.

Imagine being a rival of this guy
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The problem with them is that they always try to shove their disgusting behaviour and agenda down our throats.
 
Yeah maybe i misunderstood it, but anyways the nature argument is far too weird and doesn't make sense to me and i always like to question people about how they believe this shit or understand it.
I understand the concept of nature like this There are certain things that are wired into our brain since birth and we express them through our behavior. Some of this is changed during our developmental stage of life. Nature does not exist as anything physical. We are a reflection of it. (Fight or flight response,emotions etc)

I believe that there is an influence to homosexuality that happens when the brain is created in the womb. Many other mammals and animals express homosexual behavior as well.

I am fine with them as long as they don't promote any stupid political ideas or agendas. I will leave every gay guy alone who just wants to live his life with his partner peacefully.
 
I understand the concept of nature like this There are certain things that are wired into our brain since birth and we express them through our behavior. Some of this is changed during our developmental stage of life. Nature does not exist as anything physical. We are a reflection of it. (Fight or flight response,emotions etc)

I believe that there is an influence to homosexuality that happens when the brain is created in the womb. Many other mammals and animals express homosexual behavior as well.

I am fine with them as long as they don't promote any stupid political ideas or agendas. I will leave every gay guy alone who just wants to live his life with his partner peacefully.
My problem is with this "wired" argument. How is something wired in our brains naturally ? Like how our brains developed itself and then wired us to certian things which would help us to survive for no reason at all. Do you honestly believe this ?

Which you find more believeable, saying a computer built itself and wired itself to do some tasks and then shut down by itself, or saying an engineer built a computer and wired it to do some tasks and then shut down eventually. Which one makes more sense and logic ?

Apply the same to humans and living beings and you'll find the answer.
 
My problem is with this "wired" argument. How is something wired in our brains naturally ? Like how our brains developed itself and then wired us to certian things which would help us to survive for no reason at all. Do you honestly believe this ?

Which you find more believeable, saying a computer built itself and wired itself to do some tasks and then shut down by itself, or saying an engineer built a computer and wired it to do some tasks and then shut down eventually. Which one makes more sense and logic ?

Apply the same to humans and living beings and you'll find the answer.
Well we are not a computer. We are biological living organisms who respond to environmental factors and we also have random mutations that can be either caused by these factors or a combination of certain genes. Survival is more a passive concept. Subjects that could never survive were just wiped out and those who survived passed their traits on other generations. And that wired survival into our heads. Organisms just got more and more complex as time went on Yes all of this might have no reason at all and I view life as a sandbox game. My only goal is finding pleasure and happiness. I don't necessarily exclude a creator but I believe that he has either no influence or doesn't follow morals. However I can imagine that there might be nothing at all as well. I believe nobody can ever know the answer

Self learning thinge can be seen on artificial neural networks where a program can also wire itself based on circumstances. The ability to change is a constant aspect of life. Even bacteria does it when it becomes resistant after too much antibiotic exposure.

Life is a mysterious thing and each of us just chooses the most plausible answer.
 
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Is rape a choice? Yes it is. Are rape thoughts a choice? No they aren't. You don't have control of what you consider attractive and what you don't.

Well I thought we were defining homosexuality as the actual act of engaging in sexual relations with a man.

But you raise a good point about 'control'. Self-control is lacking in the homosexual, along with criminals. Does 'lack of control' constitute a valid defense against criminality in a court of law? 'Sorry, I just had to steal your car because I'm so attracted to it and I can't control that'.

The difference is that when homosexuality is practiced between two consenting adults, there is arguably no 'victim'. Which is why they ended up decriminalising it in the western countries. It should still be registered as a mental disorder though, but there's so many people with mental disorders these days that noone really cares how mentally deranged fags are.
 
Nobody is born either straight.
 
Nobody is born gay and most of them choose to become homosexual after being straight previously
 
I think that being gay is nature's way of keeping the population down, and lowering the competion among men.
 
They become gay through transformational life experiences, and events.
Notice how many gay men have been molested by an older man when they where young.
Such as Milo yionopolis, he was raped by a priest at a young age.
Humans are supposed to be heterosexual by default, there is no way that these men are born gay, just like nobody is born a pedophile or born a cuckold, they are all developed.

Can confirm with experience, even the gay guys I know at work say they started off liking girls and then "experimented", heterosexuality is the default starting position.
 
yeah they are, you're only brainwashed to avoid jailbait as you grow up.
This, young teens are attractive, a magic switch doesn't just go off in your brain once you've achieved the arbitrary number 6,574.365 days worth of existence (18 years) that makes their faces now looked morphed and they become ugly, they are still just as attractive, however society forces and indoctrinates men to ignore and repress that attraction (used the amount of days as hyperbole to show how retarded and illogical this all really is).

I made a video about this shit (more like videos):

Milo Yiannopoulos Scandal: Age Of Consent Laws Are Illogical


Austin Jones Did Nothing Wrong
 
Genetics play a role in a person's sexual orientation, but environment and experience also affects whether a person is gay or not. Some straight men who masturbate multiple times a day get bored with "regular" porn and start looking at other types of porn such as rape, torture and, you guessed it, gay porn. Also, people who were molested or who have issues with their father frequently end up being homosexual.
 
Legit. The gay gene is a myth created by the illuminati to spread homosexuality.
 
Imo bisexuality is the natural mode of humanity and gays and straights are just drinking two different flavors of cope a cola. Pepsi or Coke tbh.
 
Some are born this way and some gays are not. There are brains scans that suggest a different response to sexual stimulation from gay people via different thought patterns.(PMID : 21672322) Even various other mammals such as dogs can be gay. I won't believe absolute claims as long as you don't reference 100s of peer reviewed studies and a meta analysis that prove your claim without a fucking doubt. One single anecdotal case proves nothing.

I want evidence that you can measure.

Gay men are beneficial for us if they don't promote any stupid ideas and have normal relationships. A better men to wonen ratio. Some users are also influenced by religion, I would take these comments always with a grain of salt.
There was a study where they found that gay men were more likely to have short but wide faces. This is something I've seen in real life as well.
 
There was a study where they found that gay men were more likely to have short but wide faces. This is something I've seen in real life as well.
Sounds interesting
 

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