No tom cruise and zac efron are not chadlets

[Karlicel]

I love it when people say muuh height dont matter look at tom cruise and zac efron.
Tom cruise is 172cm which while not tall, is still taller than 25 % of the white zoomer population of the us.
True average is about 5"10 for white zoomers. He is just a little bit below average and got clowned on because he wears platform shoes and married a literal 180cm stacy.
If he didnt get caught and married a 165 girl he wouldnt be accused of beeing a manlet.

Zac efron is even taller 173 and even better looking.

both 173 and 172 are like a 4.5/10 height.
Try beeing 167, 165 or 160cm.
I have yet to see a chad at that height.
The htn josh hutchinson got brutally mogged everywhere he went, 0 carrear prospects and it was over for him until recently.
Daniel Radcliff was a prettyboy and mogged hard until he turned 18 and everyone releasied that at 163cm it was over for him.
Only succesful real manlet (sub 170) and even chadlet is tanner buchannan with 169cm.
but even that is still kinda acceptable.
169 height is like beeing a little bit worse than ltn in face.

And dont get me started if people say Ian Sommerhalder or Brad Pitt are manlets at 176 and 180cm that is literall average to above average.

 

[Karlicel]

Imagine beeing Daniel Radcliff.
Going from peak foid SMV to 0
Should have stayed in japan. If he didnt beardmax he could have just lived of movie earnings and slayed japanese htb and stacyies

View: https://youtu.be/H5vUNzt3CAc
Noodelwhoorse are so brutal

View: https://youtu.be/8bBXe5dZhKY

 

[Karlicel]

Japan is the only country where beeing 163 makes you only look shortish but not turbo manlet. Magnificent.

View: https://youtu.be/AGyx8Di560Q

View: https://youtu.be/Fuz2HTrYqD0

 

[LOLI BREEDING]

nahh that's pretty shit height let's be honest here

 

[Karlicel]

nahh that's pretty shit height let's be honest here

163 is hell.
but saying 173 is turbo manlet or 180 is just mental to me.
Yes ofc perfect height is 190cm but perfect face would be giga chad lol.
I am just saying that tom cruise and zac efron and Ian Sommerhalder are not manlets.
True heightpills is even more brutal. No face for beeing a manlet as i have shown with daniel radcliff, josh hutcherson and the cobra kai guy.
If you are a true manlet you wont even be in the position to be a chad.

 

[EcstasyCel]

Josh Hutcherson is a "Chadlet"

 

[Karlicel]

Josh Hutcherson is a "Chadlet"

nah high htn at best

perfect jaw but the right eye is asymetrical, eye area in total not optimal and to big nose.

 

[nico]

Josh Hutcherson is a "Chadlet"

being an inch or two below average is not manlet.

 

[nico]

perfect jaw but the right eye is asymetrical, eye area in total not optimal and to big nose.

asymmetry is irrelevant but yea he might be htn at max .

 

[Karlicel]

being an inch or two below average is not manlet.

5"5 is 5 inches below

 

[Karlicel]

asymmetry is irrelevant but yea he might be htn at max .

asymmetry is irrelevant but in his case of of his eyes is hunter and the other has extrem uue.
both of which is not totally ideal.
it is just a contrast that gives him a look as if he raises an eyebrow constant.
Maybe normie take but some assymetries just look wo weird.

 

[nico]

5"5 is 5 inches below

4 but yea, i thot he was 5`7 .

 

[Karlicel]

4 but yea, i thot he was 5`7 .

lol.
Josh hutcherson is the guy who you see it the most.
He was my height before LL and i know how he feels.

 

[nico]

asymmetry is irrelevant but in his case of of his eyes is hunter and the other has extrem uue.
both of which is not totally ideal.
it is just a contrast that gives him a look as if he raises an eyebrow constant.
Maybe normie take but some assymetries just look wo weird.

its a normal asymmetry nothing extreme.

 

[Chud Norris72]

young T.Cruise mogs the fuck out of Zack Efron

 

[ihatelife2]

Daniel Radcliffe's partner looks like a troon

 

[Chud Norris72]

True average is about 5"10 for white zoomers

Maybe in America, from where do you have that information ?

 

[Karlicel]

t.Crusie

Zac efron

fairly matched both are chad ofc.
Only thing tom cruise can say is he is one of the only men to mog until his early 40s.
But i think zac efron when young has more appeal than tom cruise to young foids (which is what counts) who cares what roasties like.

young T.Cruise mogs the fuck out of Zack Efron

 

[Karlicel]

Maybe in America, from where do you have that information ?

Googled it.
America white zoomers are 5"10.
In europe it greatly differs.
Roman countries are that or shorter.
Austria is same height for zoomers
Low lands , germany, slavs and nordics are 5"11-6ft on average

 

[Chud Norris72]

The whole 5'11 thing is a meme (with shoes you are 6' JFL), I would grape in vidya to be 5'11 - is above average even in a lot of europan countries.

 

[Chud Norris72]

Googled it.
America white zoomers are 5"10.
In europe it greatly differs.
Roman countries are that or shorter.
Austria is same height for zoomers
Low lands , germany, slavs and nordics are 5"11-6ft on average

How are you recovering from LL btw.

 

[Todd Thundercock]

Anything sub 6' destroys Chad status.

Lautner is 5'9, even taller than Cruise. Put Cruise in situations like these and the tingles fade.

 

[Karlicel]

How are you recovering from LL btw.

Good.
Can walk
Run in 2 months.
Now its face surgerys and money maxxing for next double LL road to 184

 

[Chud Norris72]

Good.
Can walk
Run in 2 months.
Now its face surgerys and money maxxing for next double LL road to 184

I wouldn't test my luck with another LL, but Gl with the plastic surgery, plan it out and don't end up botched.

 

[Karlicel]

I wouldn't test my luck with another LL, but Gl with the plastic surgery, plan it out and don't end up botched.

not one but 2 more LLs.
LL is easier than face surgerys if done internally.
Chances of serious problems if you dont do more than 6cm per lengthening and have good bone growth are practically 0.
But that is 2028 talk anyway.
2026 I do Split genioplasty, Paransal Osteotomy, Lipp lift, lateral commisuroplasty (mouth widening surgery) and a rhinoplasty.

 

[Chud Norris72]

not one but 2 more LLs.
LL is easier than face surgerys if done internally.
Chances of serious problems if you dont do more than 6cm per lengthening and have good bone growth are practically 0.
But that is 2028 talk anyway.
2026 I do Split genioplasty, Paransal Osteotomy, Lipp lift, lateral commisuroplasty (mouth widening surgery) and a rhinoplasty.

How did you even manage to blackpill your parents to make them pay for all of this shit.

 

[Karlicel]

How did you even manage to blackpill your parents to make them pay for all of this shit.

My dad was chad in his youth.
And he is not bluepilled chad.
He is same height as tom cruise but mogs him facially in prime (early 20s)
Also he i should do what i think is right cause i am high iq

 

[Chud Norris72]

My dad was chad in his youth

Carefull with the bragging, also does he expect something exact in return ?

 

[Karlicel]

Carefull with the bragging, also does he expect something exact in return ?

How am i bragging. I am not my dad lol xD
No.
but if i borrow money for second LL i have to work for it and pay back.

 

[Chud Norris72]

How am i bragging. I am not my dad lol xD
No.
but if i borrow money for second LL i have to work for it and pay back.

Could be interpreted as bragging.

 

[TooSomething]

Good.
Can walk
Run in 2 months.
Now its face surgerys and money maxxing for next double LL road to 184

I hope all goes well for you, man. Godspeed to you.

 

[TooSomething]

Could be interpreted as bragging.

Absolutely not bragging.

My dad is a HTN for sure and very tall. But I don't have his face, nor his physique and most definitely not his dick size.

I know from my mom... .

 

[strange_to_be]

The most retarded thing people do on this forum is talk about celebrities

 

[Thaway]

Well sac efron has a chad face and tom cruise is short by modern standards and would never be able to have as much success nowadays. He got popular way back in the day.

 

[Sex-Starved Beast]

but saying 173 is turbo manlet or 180 is just mental to me.

I agree. From 170 to 180 cm it should be considered normal. Outside of that, people look deformed (not just in height but in other features like face, hands, legs, etc). For foids it's 165-180. I hate how, somehow, deformed-looking tallfags with horse faces and deformed-looking foidlets with crooked legs are considered peak attractiveness while a healthy 170 cm tall dude is seen as too short. There's something sick with it.

 

[Karlicel]

Well sac efron has a chad face and tom cruise is short by modern standards and would never be able to have as much success nowadays. He got popular way back in the day.

shorter guys are somewhat successful nowadays.
At 172 he is bottom 25% not bottom 5%

 

[Karlicel]

I agree. From 170 to 180 cm it should be considered normal. Outside of that, people look deformed (not just in height but in other features like face, hands, legs, etc). For foids it's 165-180. I hate how, somehow, deformed-looking tallfags with horse faces and deformed-looking foidlets with crooked legs are considered peak attractiveness while a healthy 170 cm tall dude is seen as too short. There's something sick with it.

if you say normal that means from 171-185 for men and 157 to 171 for foids.
180 foids are as rare as 195 guys

 

[Sex-Starved Beast]

180 foids are as rare as 195 guys

I see so many heightmogger foids around, though. Anyway I wans't talking about rarity, I meant that after a certain height, poeple start to look unnatural and deformed, and most of the 180 cm foids that I see look fine to me.

 

[Karlicel]

I see so many heightmogger foids around, though. Anyway I wans't talking about rarity, I meant that after a certain height, poeple start to look unnatural and deformed, and most of the 180 cm foids that I see look fine to me.

beeing tall is a good trait

 

[LOLI BREEDING]

163 is hell.
but saying 173 is turbo manlet or 180 is just mental to me.
Yes ofc perfect height is 190cm but perfect face would be giga chad lol.
I am just saying that tom cruise and zac efron and Ian Sommerhalder are not manlets.
True heightpills is even more brutal. No face for beeing a manlet as i have shown with daniel radcliff, josh hutcherson and the cobra kai guy.
If you are a true manlet you wont even be in the position to be a chad.

173 is not turbo manlet but is manlet enough. it's just not a good height. 180+ should be pretty good

sure, 173 is potentially livable while 165 is basically over but it's 2026, the standards are fucked

if you're gonna be below average you better look like somerhalder or cruise. that look can pull it off even today probably

nah high htn at best
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perfect jaw but the right eye is asymetrical, eye area in total not optimal and to big nose.

also thin lips, chubby, weak zygos and peasant pheno

Anything sub 6' destroys Chad status.

Lautner is 5'9, even taller than Cruise. Put Cruise in situations like these and the tingles fade.

roastoid take. prime stacy would let him krempi

not one but 2 more LLs.
LL is easier than face surgerys if done internally.
Chances of serious problems if you dont do more than 6cm per lengthening and have good bone growth are practically 0.
But that is 2028 talk anyway.
2026 I do Split genioplasty, Paransal Osteotomy, Lipp lift, lateral commisuroplasty (mouth widening surgery) and a rhinoplasty.

nigga you can't lengthen that much it'll fuck you up

 

[Karlicel]

173 is not turbo manlet but is manlet enough. it's just not a good height. 180+ should be pretty good

sure, 173 is potentially livable while 165 is basically over but it's 2026, the standards are fucked

if you're gonna be below average you better look like somerhalder or cruise. that look can pull it off even today probably

also thin lips, chubby, weak zygos and peasant pheno

roastoid take. prime stacy would let him krempi

nigga you can't lengthen that much it'll fuck you up

muuh it will fuck you up.
Some people do that shit external and end up fine.
with LL it isnt about how much you lengthen but how much you do at the same time.
6cm but 3 times is saver than 8cm femur and 6cm tibia

 

[StressTensorCel]

I feel bad for them. They have litteraly maxxed out every possible stat imaginable, and foids still mock them for being short.

 

[Thaway]

shorter guys are somewhat successful nowadays.

Not on this planet.

 

[Karlicel]

Not on this planet.

i phrased it wrong look the whole convo

 

[EcstasyCel]

nah high htn at best
View attachment 1683667
perfect jaw but the right eye is asymetrical, eye area in total not optimal and to big nose.

If you have to downgrade other good looking men to be able to consider yourself sub5 that's kinda sus.

 

[Karlicel]

If you have to downgrade other good looking men to be able to consider yourself sub5 that's kinda sus.

I am just realistic chad is a 1 in a 1000 guys if not more

 

[Thaway]

i phrased it wrong look the whole convo

I was out today, had to get some groceries and walked through the mall. Every single couple i saw, the guy was atleast 6'1 and those were the shorter ones. The beckies and low tier beckies were all walking around with robust tall psycho HTNs, even a lot of the "older" ones.

 

[Karlicel]

I was out today, had to get some groceries and walked through the mall. Every single couple i saw, the guy was atleast 6'1 and those were the shorter ones. The beckies and low tier beckies were all walking around with robust tall psycho HTNs, even a lot of the "older" ones.

were do you live giant island?

 

[St3v3Cel]

What are you gonna do when you become Chad?

 

[Karlicel]

What are you gonna do when you become Chad?

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