Nazicels and Feminism

[logician]

The Nazis and the SJW liberals are two sides of the same coin, they result from the same cancer that is oversocialization which leads individuals to deeply assimilate within society and appropriating all the codes of the groups to which they belong. Loss of identity, depression, anxiety are a non-exhaustive list of the evils caused by these harmful ideologies and are tools used by the system to create tension in the population so that they are not interested in the real problem such as class struggle and industrialization.

 

[logician]

like we always see dramas on social medias because we push people to integrate excessively or rigidly into social norms and expectations instead of coming together under a common cause.

 

[yunarukami]

The Nazis support raising the age of consent which was pushed by feminists. And feminism is a Jewish invention.

 

[Rapistcel]

The Nazis and the SJW liberals are two sides of the same coin, they result from the same cancer that is oversocialization which leads individuals to deeply assimilate within society and appropriating all the codes of the groups to which they belong. Loss of identity, depression, anxiety are a non-exhaustive list of the evils caused by these harmful ideologies and are tools used by the system to create tension in the population so that they are not interested in the real problem such as class struggle and industrialization.

Some nazis are very gynocentric, "you can't do that because she is a woman"

 

[Hoodpreet]

The Nazis support raising the age of consent which was pushed by feminists. And feminism is a Jewish invention.

The Nazis did not raise the age of consent. FFS, Hitler began his relationship with Eva Braun when she was 17 and he was 40

 

[yunarukami]

The Nazis did not raise the age of consent. FFS, Hitler began his relationship with Eva Braun when she was 17 and he was 40

That's not what I said. I was referring to the white nationalists on Conpro. They think that the age of consent was always 18. These guys think feminism is garbage yet will agree with them on this one thing. Won't even admit that age of consent in Nazi Germany was 14 and still is 14 to this day.

 

[Hoodpreet]

The Nazis and the SJW liberals are two sides of the same coin, they result from the same cancer that is oversocialization which leads individuals to deeply assimilate within society and appropriating all the codes of the groups to which they belong. Loss of identity, depression, anxiety are a non-exhaustive list of the evils caused by these harmful ideologies and are tools used by the system to create tension in the population so that they are not interested in the real problem such as class struggle and industrialization.

Word soup tbh. Most Nazis today are chronically online loners, how are they "oversocialized?" What do you define as a Nazi anyway?

The last sentence also reads like it was written by someone out of touch of reality. Just ignore demographics because muh class struggle, bro! That's not how it works in the real world

 

[MacheteRape]

Just ignore demographics because muh class struggle, bro!

Libertarians say shit like this and it makes me want to ship them all off to that town in NH that suffered from its first murders in history because it got infested with Libertarians

 

[logician]

Most Nazis today are chronically online loners, how are they "oversocialized?" What do you define as a Nazi anyway?

You're wrong they're not alone, social media has connected individuals to others. Today, a person is socialized through screen time, from the moment he wakes up to the moment he goes to bed. The most important change is that he receives instant feedback on all his thoughts and behaviors.

The last sentence also reads like it was written by someone out of touch of reality. Just ignore demographics because muh class struggle, bro! That's not how it works in the real world

Focusing on class struggle also means, by extension, addressing demographic issues. The fact that we concentrate a population in one place to be mere cogs in the machine inevitably leads to a reduction in population. Now, if you want to talk about ethnic purity, I think that's an extremist vision that's not so far removed from the vision of feminazis who want to exterminate men.

 

[Hoodpreet]

You're wrong they're not alone, social media has connected individuals to others. Today, a person is socialized through screen time, from the moment he wakes up to the moment he goes to bed. The most important change is that he receives instant feedback on all his thoughts and behaviors.

Still doesn't prove your point about the ideology being a result of "oversocialization." On the vast majority of the internet, you will not receive positive reinforcement for espousing Dissident Rightist ideas. Even in spaces that are arguably inextricably tied to race realists/white nationalists, such as theapricity or soyjak party, I've seen anti-Nazis.

In your OG post up top, you say Nazis "appropriate all the codes of the group to which they belong." That makes 0 sense, considering that even just being on the periphery of the Dissident Right for an hour will show you how fragmented and ideologically heterogenous they actually are. The main split being, of course, Christians vs. atheists/pagans/Nietzscheans, but even in other matters, like how a white ethnostate should be achieved, there's a pretty big level of disagreement among different communities in the sphere.

Basically, the general opinion online is very much against WNs/Dissident Rightists, and even Dissident Rightists themselves disagree on many things. So I don't think your suggestion that people adopt these beliefs as a result of community reinforcement holds up to reality.

Focusing on class struggle also means, by extension, addressing demographic issues. The fact that we concentrate a population in one place to be mere cogs in the machine inevitably leads to a reduction in population.

A lot of leftists refuse to acknowledge demographics as an issue at all though. Even ones I've encountered who are against SJWism and could be described as more "20th century Marxists" refuse to talk about mass immigration and its dilution of high-trust societies and cultures, because in their eyes that's just the other side of the same identity politics coin SJWism is on.

Now, if you want to talk about ethnic purity, I think that's an extremist vision that's not so far removed from the vision of feminazis who want to exterminate men.

In what sense is it not so far removed from that?

Feminists want to exterminate men due to social consensus on their fake "oppression" making them resent men for not bending over backwards for them harder than we already do. Ethnonationalists want ethnostates because they see the evidence for multiculturalism and multiracialism being detrimental to their own QoL as natives, as well as undermining their historical cultures and identities. It's really not the same thing, especially when the social consensus is pro-feminism and anti-ethnonationalism

 

[blackpillednigga]

considering that even just being on the periphery of the Dissident Right for an hour will show you how fragmented and ideologically heterogenous they actually are. The main split being, of course, Christians vs. atheists/pagans/Nietzscheans, but even in other matters, like how a white ethnostate should be achieved, there's a pretty big level of disagreement among different communities in the sphere.

and thats exactly why Ill never align myself with the right. they allow cuckbertarians, homonationalists, jews, and race copers in their platform that I'm strongly against

 

[Hoodpreet]

and thats exactly why Ill never align myself with the right. they allow cuckbertarians, homonationalists, jews, and race copers in their platform that I'm strongly against

I made that comment specifically in reference to the Dissident Right, which I guess you could say is the 2020s counterpart to the "alt-right" of the 2010s. The whole right is too broad to group together, just like the whole left is

 

[logician]

Still doesn't prove your point about the ideology being a result of "oversocialization." On the vast majority of the internet, you will not receive positive reinforcement for espousing Dissident Rightist ideas. Even in spaces that are arguably inextricably tied to race realists/white nationalists, such as theapricity or soyjak party, I've seen anti-Nazis.

The ideology is a result of oversocialization because individuals who are exposed to extreme norms or ideas are driven to adopt extreme views , just as Hitler was exposed to nationalist, anti-Semitic and racist ideas circulating in Austrian society at the time. You've missed my point , it's not about seeking positive reinforcement from the majority on the Internet, but of belonging to a group: the average individual today is so neurotic that the slightest sign of approval from an authority or a community brings a powerful feeling of relief.

In your OG post up top, you say Nazis "appropriate all the codes of the group to which they belong." That makes 0 sense, considering that even just being on the periphery of the Dissident Right for an hour will show you how fragmented and ideologically heterogenous they actually are. The main split being, of course, Christians vs. atheists/pagans/Nietzscheans, but even in other matters, like how a white ethnostate should be achieved, there's a pretty big level of disagreement among different communities in the sphere.

There are literally divergences in every belief, religious current, political party and so on. Movements and ideologies are never monolithic and evolve over time, but that doesn't stop camps being formed because there are a multitude of common ideas or dogmas that bring them together. I think it's a waste of time to dwell on details like that; what I'm talking about in my thread is a general concept.

A lot of leftists refuse to acknowledge demographics as an issue at all though. Even ones I've encountered who are against SJWism and could be described as more "20th century Marxists" refuse to talk about mass immigration and its dilution of high-trust societies and cultures, because in their eyes that's just the other side of the same identity politics coin that SJWism is on.

I'm not a leftist, which must be why I don't share this point of view with them.

In what sense is it not so far removed from that?

Feminists believe that men are intrinsically potential rapists, have violent behaviors that are not adapted to a civilized society because of their biological nature. They criminalize the masculine in its very essence, overwhelming its deepest sexual identity, right down to its hormones. It's a question of twisting him, denying him his primary aspirations, distorting him to make him something else. Feminazis fight out of a sense of injustice and humiliation, like Nazis today or in the past, and both project their frustration onto different causes.

 

[blackpillednigga]

I made that comment specifically in reference to the Dissident Right, which I guess you could say is the 2020s counterpart to the "alt-right" of the 2010s. The whole right is too broad to group together, just like the whole left is

I would say the left is a lot more homogenous though (pun not intended). they out anyone that even slightly disagrees with them while the right just accepts anyone that disagrees with their opponents