Experiment Myth "Even if you ascend, you will be beta male cuck"

[BlackpilledAF]

One of the monumental copes I see thrown around by anti-looksmaxxers is that why bother improving your looks ? Even if you ascend after plastic surgeries and changing your looks, you'll become a pussy whipped beta cuck and it's better to be an incel than a cuck. So why bother ?

My response is: Not necessarily.

In fact, if you are an average looking man (post-ascension), you will be expected to be a cuckolded supplicant to the foid, but you don't have to play that part. In fact, you can use your Blackpill knowledge to break the foid expectation and beat them at their own game.

When a 4,5 , 5 , or 5.5 dude dates his looksmatch, the balance of powers in the relationship is automatically skewed in the foid's favor. Even as a 5/10, she has unlimited access to countless Chads via Tinder, while she is all that you have. Therefore, you are EXPECTED to act like a beta cuck.

But you don't have to do that at all. In the hypothetical scenario where an incel ascends via plastic surgery and manages to date a fuckable foid, you get your dick wet with her, but as soon as you are asked to fulfill the role of the weaker man (ie: "opening" the relationship, asking you to provide for her, her making you her errand boy, etc.), just mercilessly dump her. Even if that relationship lasts for a day or a week, you won. Your cock was in her vagina, and she did not manage to impose her agenda on you.

 

[lifeisbullshit95]

Better incel than a cuck even Chad have dating probleams in 2kCentury
It'sOVER

 

[OccidentalRebel]

My hypothetical strategy for ascended LTR: shoot for lower tier foid especially low self esteem, be nice enough to them help them out, do shit for them but make it clear they are supposed to surprise you too, don't be subservient though and be detached enough at times, only sometimes you should reject an offer to hangout and instead say you want to have some me-time or wanna play a game or something idc. Also try to work out and become able to fight if needed. When you compliment them say something negative as well, like your hairs good but you should've put less eyeliner on you look a bit weird. Or its a good dress but you're wearing it too much. etc

 

[ovrload]

Most people who ascend and finally get a gf, it normally doesn’t work out

 

[Cuyen]

Lol ALL foids change bfs like they change clothes

Better incel than a cuck even Chad have dating probleams in 2kCentury
It'sOVER

 

[Insomniac]

Every male who isn’t chad is susceptible to being cucked.

 

[IncelGenocide]

Personality is changeable due to neuroplasticity.

 

[mylifeistrash]

One of the monumental copes I see thrown around by anti-looksmaxxers is that why bother improving your looks ? Even if you ascend after plastic surgeries and changing your looks, you'll become a pussy whipped beta cuck and it's better to be an incel than a cuck. So why bother ?

My response is: Not necessarily.

In fact, if you are an average looking man (post-ascension), you will be expected to be a cuckolded supplicant to the foid, but you don't have to play that part. In fact, you can use your Blackpill knowledge to break the foid expectation and beat them at their own game.

When a 4,5 , 5 , or 5.5 dude dates his looksmatch, the balance of powers in the relationship is automatically skewed in the foid's favor. Even as a 5/10, she has unlimited access to countless Chads via Tinder, while she is all that you have. Therefore, you are EXPECTED to act like a beta cuck.

But you don't have to do that at all. In the hypothetical scenario where an incel ascends via plastic surgery and manages to date a fuckable foid, you get your dick wet with her, but as soon as you are asked to fulfill the role of the weaker man (ie: "opening" the relationship, asking you to provide for her, her making you her errand boy, etc.), just mercilessly dump her. Even if that relationship lasts for a day or a week, you won. Your cock was in her vagina, and she did not manage to impose her agenda on you.

it's easy, just lie and say you want a long relationship

fuck her a few times then then claim you got cancer or some shit so she won't #meToo you

 

[Weed]

Why GF when you can slay? Why 5.5 when you can go higher? jfl jfl thbhthb
I am expecting to become at least 6 after chin surgery tbhngl hopefully fuck because chin makes biggest difference

 

[Cuyen]

Every male who isn’t chad is susceptible to being cucked.

foids leave their chads for another chad.

 

[ovrload]

Every male who isn’t chad is susceptible to being cucked.

If you ascend and your gf asks to have an open relationship, you know deep down you’re pathetic low value male in her eyes so she can justify fucking other more attractive males while keeping you as an emotional tampon.

 

[BlkPillPres]

One of the monumental copes I see thrown around by anti-looksmaxxers is that why bother improving your looks ? Even if you ascend after plastic surgeries and changing your looks, you'll become a pussy whipped beta cuck and it's better to be an incel than a cuck. So why bother ?

My response is: Not necessarily.

In fact, if you are an average looking man (post-ascension), you will be expected to be a cuckolded supplicant to the foid, but you don't have to play that part. In fact, you can use your Blackpill knowledge to break the foid expectation and beat them at their own game.

When a 4,5 , 5 , or 5.5 dude dates his looksmatch, the balance of powers in the relationship is automatically skewed in the foid's favor. Even as a 5/10, she has unlimited access to countless Chads via Tinder, while she is all that you have. Therefore, you are EXPECTED to act like a beta cuck.

But you don't have to do that at all. In the hypothetical scenario where an incel ascends via plastic surgery and manages to date a fuckable foid, you get your dick wet with her, but as soon as you are asked to fulfill the role of the weaker man (ie: "opening" the relationship, asking you to provide for her, her making you her errand boy, etc.), just mercilessly dump her. Even if that relationship lasts for a day or a week, you won. Your cock was in her vagina, and she did not manage to impose her agenda on you.

Most men trying to ascend aren't putting in all that effort to pump and dump, you aren't really thinking this through, you invested hours into physical self improvement, probably got a few surgeries, wealth maxxed and got a good career, built up your social skills that you lacked, pick a target, listen to all her boring life stories you care nothing about, learn about her likes and dislikes, becoming attached to her, etc. You invested all that time, money and effort just to pump and dump.

Alright, answer this question, why not just skip all the effort and just pay a woman for sex, just wealthmaxx, move to some SEA country like thailand, skip all the BS, and pay for sex, why not just do that instead if you plan to pump and dump anyways, you'd achieve the same end result without even 1/10 of the time and effort invested into looksmaxxing and dating.

You aren't being logical here, and this is why I even made a thread about this:

For "Ascension Copers": Getting A GF Is The Easy Part (Its Better To "Descend") | Incels.is - Involuntary Celibate

My version of "ascension", I call it "descension", since I hated the term "ascension" for what it is used for (chasing a cope), and I wanted my concept of "success" after an incel life to be in opposition of that. Descension is the exact opposite of ascension, you could say its like the MGTOW...

incels.is

Didn't you just waste your time and effort if the plan is a temporary sex based interaction anyways. That's why I say I'm not trying to "ascend" I'm trying to "descend", I don't care about looksmaxxing, I only care about wealthmaxxing, and I just want to live in a nice comfy apartment in a country where I have easy access to prostitution. What you are advocating is the most ridiculous illogical shit, you want men to take on the burdens of a "ascender" whille having the end goal of a "descender" JFL, you are literally telling me and other men to waste years of their life for a temporary sex based relationship when they can just............. seek out a temporary sex based relationship to begin with (skip all the BS and pay for sex).

Ascension only makes sense, if you plan on creating a long lasting committed relationship, with a marriage being a possibility. If you seriously just want to pump and dump, then there's no reason to bother with all the time and effort to improve your looks, just fuck whores, you'll probably end up spending less money that way too.

 

[micropenis29]

This is just naive.

She will impose her agenda on you. She will claim she was raped, or she will injure herself and blame you, or she will find some other way to completely ruin your life. This works because she knows the courts and society at-large will always side with her; sub-Chad men stand no chance vs. a foid in the court of law or the court of public perception.

Women will go to unbelievably great lengths to ruin a non-Chad's life. This is especially true when it's a non-Chad with whom they regret having sex. Women are soulless and ruthless animals without any sense of morality or justice. You can either accept this fact or learn it the hard way.

Non-Chads are second-class citizens. Know your place.

Most men trying to ascend aren't putting in all that effort to pump and dump, you aren't really thinking this through, you invested hours into physical self improvement, probably got a few surgeries, wealth maxxed and got a good career, built up your social skills that you lacked, pick a target, listen to all her boring life stories you care nothing about, learn about her likes and dislikes, becoming attached to her, etc. You invested all that time, money and effort just to pump and dump.

Alright, answer this question, why not just skip all the effort and just pay a woman for sex, just wealthmaxx, move to some SEA country like thailand, skip all the BS, and pay for sex, why not just do that instead if you plan to pump and dump anyways, you'd achieve the same end result without even 1/10 of the time and effort invested into looksmaxxing and dating.

You aren't being logical here, and this is why I even made a thread about this:

For "Ascension Copers": Getting A GF Is The Easy Part (Its Better To "Descend") | Incels.is - Involuntary Celibate

My version of "ascension", I call it "descension", since I hated the term "ascension" for what it is used for (chasing a cope), and I wanted my concept of "success" after an incel life to be in opposition of that. Descension is the exact opposite of ascension, you could say its like the MGTOW...

incels.is

Didn't you just waste your time and effort if the plan is a temporary sex based interaction anyways. That's why I say I'm not trying to "ascend" I'm trying to "descend", I don't care about looksmaxxing, I only care about wealthmaxxing, and I just want to live in a nice comfy apartment in a country where I have easy access to prostitution. What you are advocating is the most ridiculous illogical shit, you want men to take on the burdens of a "ascender" whille having the end goal of a "descender" JFL, you are literally telling me and other men to waste years of their life for a temporary sex based relationship when they can just............. seek out a temporary sex based relationship to begin with (skip all the BS and pay for sex).

Ascension only makes sense, if you plan on creating a long lasting committed relationship, with a marriage being a possibility. If you seriously just want to pump and dump, then there's no reason to bother with all the time and effort to improve your looks, just fuck whores, you'll probably end up spending less money that way too.

I agree.

 

[Mainländer]

it's easy, just lie and say you want a long relationship

fuck her a few times then then claim you got cancer or some shit so she won't #meToo you

Nice plan.

 

[TheRealChincel]

I’m going to have to agree with BlkPillPres here, OP, wasting all that time and money on surgery just to pump and dump and then be out in the cold again... You’re better off becoming rich so you can fuck pros frequently as opposed to going for basic women and then waiting on the bench until another one deigns to find a new provider.

 

[BlackpilledAF]

I’m going to have to agree with BlkPillPres here, OP, wasting all that time and money on surgery just to pump and dump and then be out in the cold again... You’re better off becoming rich so you can fuck pros frequently as opposed to going for basic women and then waiting on the bench until another one deigns to find a new provider.

It's a matter of personal preference.

Personally, I would prefer to pump and dump a 5/10 rather than pay for sex with a 8/10.

Also, keep in mind that I am a drugcel. A cocaine, MDMA, and weed fueled sex night can be a lot of fun. Totally worth the investment IMHO, and way better than LDARing.

Also, my acquired looks via plastic surgery would help me in other areas of life such as work, and better mental health by result of looking better. Plastic surgery and improvement of looks is far from being a waste of time and money. It's the best investment an incel can possibly have.

 

[TheRealChincel]

It's a matter of personal preference.

Personally, I would prefer to pump and dump a 5/10 rather than pay for sex with a 8/10.

Also, keep in mind that I am a drugcel. A cocaine, MDMA, and weed fueled sex night can be a lot of fun. Totally worth the investment IMHO, and way better than LDARing.

Also, my acquired looks via plastic surgery would help me in other areas of life such as work, and better mental health by result of looking better. Plastic surgery and improvement of looks is far from being a waste of time and money. It's the best investment an incel can possibly have.

If you could pump and dump 5/10s consistently, sure. PS isn’t going to make the vast majority of us 7+ guys.