Based My progress at the gym

[damagedbaffled]

Is this slow progress for someone lifting for 6 months

Been lifting for 6 months on and off with an okaish diet. I definitely look bigger now. I fill L sized shirts but I'm also more bloated. Before After @VitaminS

incels.is

My lifts now. What do you guys think? Ive also lost some weight. I'm 75 kgs now. These are my one rep maxes now. I've started hitting plateaus. Don't seem to be able to add 2.5 kgs after every workout. I'm stuck at these weights.

Squat 125 kg(275 lbs)
Deadlift 140 kg(310 lbs)
Bench press 80 kg(175 lbs)
Overhead press 52.5 kg(115 lbs)

I'm starting to see some upper ab definition and my arms and quads have gotten bigger since then but still dyel I'd say

@Ricordanza @VitaminS

 

[TheInklingofAnIncel]

Don't think the abs will really show until you get like to a certain low fat percentage. You're moving some solid weight though.

 

[based_meme]

Those are good numbers for your body weight and only six months. Well done, brocel.

 

[ShiiOfTheSPLC]

Is this slow progress for someone lifting for 6 months

Been lifting for 6 months on and off with an okaish diet. I definitely look bigger now. I fill L sized shirts but I'm also more bloated. Before After @VitaminS

incels.is

My lifts now. What do you guys think? Ive also lost some weight. I'm 75 kgs now. These are my one rep maxes now. I've started hitting plateaus. Don't seem to be able to add 2.5 kgs after every workout. I'm stuck at these weights.

Squat 125 kg
Deadlift 140 kg
Bench press 80 kg
Overhead press 52.5 kg

I'm starting to see some upper ab definition and my arms and quads have gotten bigger since then but still dyel I'd say

@Ricordanza @VitaminS

Don't think the abs will really show until you get like to a certain low fat percentage. You're moving some solid weight though.

Dead serious (Im high asf) how is 125 kg squat dyel tier but being being able to lift two 65 kg dumbbells is godly

 

[based_meme]

Dead serious (Im high asf) how is 125 kg squat dyel tier but being being able to lift two 65 kg dumbbells is godly

Neither nor.

 

[damagedbaffled]

Those are good numbers for your body weight. Well done, brocel.

How should I break these plateaus tho? I am stuck at these weights. Should I up my calories or deload?

 

[adharmi]

You are strong dude. Mogs me to the abyss.

My Max squat is 50kg×4 rep
Max bench press 45kg×2 rep
Deadlift 90kg ×3 rep
Overhead press 25kg× 8 rep.

I lost motivation after being unable to gain weight and strength. Am even weaker now. Currently weigh 59kg.

 

[based_meme]

How should I break these plateus tho? I am stuck at these weights. Should I up my calories or deload?

Don't up your calories, unless you intend to add mass.

Plateaus are usually dealt with in a number of ways depending your program and training/skill level, but I'm assuming it's some kind of 3-5 rep, 3-5 set, beginner linear progression. In any case, the general approach is to repeat your weight from last time on a particular lift and try to hit your rep and set targets. After a certain number of tries, drop the weight to 90% of your current working weight and work back up to that weight. That solves the problem for beginners almost always. If that fails, you need to change your program.

 

[cripplecel]

Very nice

 

[Ricordanza]

How should I break these plateaus tho? I am stuck at these weights. Should I up my calories or deload?

Texas method

 

[Ricordanza]

Btw strength training is useless, nobody outside a very niche circle of gymcels gives a shit about how much weight you lift. Bodybuilding and staying lean is all that matters, just do isolation movements and ive said it before and I’ll say it again deadlifting is a dick measuring contest for fat retards and is an utterly pointless exercise

 

[cripplecel]

deadlifting is a dick measuring contest for fat retards and is an utterly pointless exercise

Gay

 

[damagedbaffled]

Btw strength training is useless, nobody outside a very niche circle of gymcels gives a shit about how much weight you lift. Bodybuilding and staying lean is all that matters, just do isolation movements and ive said it before and I’ll say it again deadlifting is a dick measuring contest for fat retards and is an utterly pointless exercise

I incorporate both strength and hypertrophy days in my workout routine

 

[Ricordanza]

I incorporate both strength and hypertrophy days in my workout routine

Worst of both worlds

 

[damagedbaffled]

Worst of both worlds

Why? PHAT is a good program I've heard.

 

[Ricordanza]

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>deadlifts 5pl8+
>looks like he has never stepped foot in a gym before

Powershitters taking L after L

 

[damagedbaffled]

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>deadlifts 5pl8+
>looks like he has never stepped foot in a gym before

Powershitters taking L after L

What kind of program should follow then? My hypertrophy days are Mon Tue. Higher reps low intensity. Wednesday rest. Thursday and Friday I focus on strength and attempt PRs. Low reps with high intensity

 

[Ricordanza]

What kind of program should follow then? My hypertrophy days are Mon Tue. Higher reps low intensity. Wednesday rest. Thursday and Friday I focus on strength and attempt PRs. Low reps with high intensity

Do whatever you want, I prefer bro split

 

[damagedbaffled]

Do whatever you want, I prefer bro split

Post your workout routine with reps and excercises. I'll try it for a week

 

[based_meme]

Btw strength training is useless

Bro please stop with this bullshit. Training your strength is absolutely vital for overall health and fitness.

You have a chip on your shoulder about barbell strength training. I get it, you're fucking weak and mad about it. But that doesn't mean that any form of strength training is all squating, benching, and deadlifting and adding numbers on the bar to the point where you can't take more than one step at a time up a flight of stairs. Strength training != fat fuck maxxing.

 

[Ricordanza]

Post your workout routine with reps and excercises. I'll try it for a week

Day 1 Shoulders
DB OHP 4x last set is a dropset
DB Lateral raises 4x last set is a dropset
Face pulls 4x last set is a dropset
Cable lateral raises 3x
DB Rear delt rows 3x

Day 2 Arms
Skullcrushers 4x last set is a dropset
Tricep pushdowns 4x last set is a dropset
Close grip bench 3x
Cable overhead extensions 3x
BB curls 3x
Incline DB curls 3x
Hammer curls 3x

Day 3 Legs
BB squats 4x
RDL 4x
Calf extensions 4x
Bulgarian split squats 3x

Id add hamstring curls and switch out squats for leg press but my gym doesn’t have the equipment

Day 4 Rest

Day 5 Chest
Flat bench 4x
Incline bench 4x
Cable flies from all 3 angles for 3 sets each so 3x3x = 9x

Day 6 Back
Pull ups 3x
Bent over BB row 4x
T bar row 4x
Lat pulldown 4x
Seated cable row 4x
Smith machine shrugs 3x

Day 7 Rest

All sets are AMRAP

 

[Ricordanza]

Bro please stop with this bullshit. Training your strength is absolutely vital for overall health and fitness.

Bodybuilding is more than enough for "health" purposes whatever the fuck that means. Lifting inhumane amounts of weight and risking a hernia or a tear is never worth it

You have a chip on your shoulder about barbell strength training. I get it, you're fucking weak and mad about it. But that doesn't mean that any form of strength training is all squating, benching, and deadlifting and adding numbers on the bar to the point where you can't take more than one step at a time up a flight of stairs. Strength training != fat fuck maxxing.

It is but let's ignore that for a moment. Bodybuilders are already much stronger than the average Joe and strength training has very little carryover to the real world because it's focused on 3-4 very specific exercises. Whats the point of squatting, are you training for when a building collapses on your back!

 

[based_meme]

Bodybuilding is more than enough for "health" purposes whatever the fuck that means. Lifting inhumane amounts of weight and risking a hernia or a tear is never worth it

Bodybuilding is done for the sole purpose of aesthetics. It's about sculpting the body and perfecting diet and nutrition. That's the entire idea behind it - literally in the name.

Nobody - especially not me - is saying you have to push your body to its limits to try and lift absurd amounts of weight. Leave that for the powershitters, as you say, because all they care about is the number behind the bar. They even modify the range of motions on lifts for that sole purpose and make some fucked changes to standard exercises, like archway bench presses and low bar, parallel-only back squats.

You're making the common mistake of conflating all strength training with powerlifting.

It is but let's ignore that for a moment. Bodybuilders are already much stronger than the average Joe and strength training has very little carryover to the real world because it's focused on 3-4 very specific exercises.

General strength training has plenty of carryover. It means you'll run faster, hit harder, and climb easier.

Whats the point of squatting, are you training for when a building collapses on your back!

You're showing your complete ignorance here. Squatting builds core strength, which is useful for literally every physical thing you move your body to do.

 

[Ricordanza]

Bodybuilding is done for the sole purpose of aesthetics. It's about sculpting the body and perfecting diet and nutrition. That's the entire idea behind it - literally in the name.

Nobody - especially not me - is saying you have to push your body to its limits to try and lift absurd amounts of weight. Leave that for the powershitters, as you say, because all they care about is the number behind the bar. They even modify the range of motions on lifts for that sole purpose and make some fucked changes to standard exercises, like archway bench presses and low bar, parallel-only back squats.

You're making the common mistake of conflating all strength training with powerlifting.

So strength at best is a worse version of bodybuilding. You won’t look as good and neither will you be strong in certain specific lifts

General strength training has plenty of carryover. It means you'll run faster, hit harder, and climb easier

So will bodybuilding and you get all the other benefits as well

You're showing your complete ignorance here. Squatting builds core strength, which is useful for literally every physical thing you move your body to do.

Risk a hernia, torn ACL, MCL, meniscus, patellar tendon and whatnot for muh core strength. Just do some crunches or planks lmao

 

[based_meme]

So strength at best is a worse version of bodybuilding. You won’t look as good and neither will you be strong in certain specific lifts

How good your body looks is a function of diet and cardio. How strong you get is a function of specific training protocols. Both are obviously influenced by genetics, but that's a given.

Bodybuilders use compound lifts to get strong, because that's the best way to add muscle mass. Bodybuilding is literally just strength training (for big mass gain) + extra isolation volume (for targeted muscle building) + careful dieting (for staying lean and showing your conditioning).

Bodybuilders are anything but weak. However, they don't care about strength, because strength is not the goal.

So will bodybuilding and you get all the other benefits as well

Not to the same degree, because bodybuilders don't care about improving general fitness performance tasks. It's all only about aesthetics.

Risk a hernia, torn ACL, MCL, meniscus, patellar tendon and whatnot for muh core strength. Just do some crunches or planks lmao

WTF are you talking about? You don't run the risk of those injuries unless you're dealing with very heavy weights or doing an insane amount of volume at high frequency.

 

[Ricordanza]

Bodybuilders use compound lifts to get strong, because that's the best way to add muscle mass. Bodybuilding is literally just strength training (for big mass gain) + extra isolation volume (for targeted muscle building) + careful dieting (for staying lean and showing your conditioning).

Bodybuilders are anything but weak. However, they don't care about strength, because strength is not the goal.

Thanks for proving my point

WTF are you talking about? You don't run the risk of those injuries unless you're dealing with very heavy weights or doing an insane amount of volume at high frequency.

Strength training requires you to do 3-5 reps in a set so you obviously need to use heavy weights. Much heavier than what youd do your typical 12-15 reps with a bodybuilding set

Not to the same degree, because bodybuilders don't care about improving general fitness performance tasks. It's all only about aesthetics

So slightly less strength in exchange for infinitely better aesthetics? Not a hard choice at all

 

[based_meme]

Thanks for proving my point

Your point was that it's a worse version of bodybuilding.

It isn't.

Your erroneous assumption is that training for strength is tantamount to letting yourself go and be a slow fat fuck who can't even sprint 40 meters. You're thinking in extreme black and white and it's giving you all sorts of hilarious ideas on what strength training really is.

Strength training requires you to do 3-5 reps in a set so you obviously need to use heavy weights. Much heavier than what youd do your typical 12-15 reps with a bodybuilding set

You don't get appreciable muscle and real size gains using 12-15 reps. Your body responds to the stress you put it under. Low intensity with high reps doesn't give your body a reason to grow much.

JFL if you think random high rep bro splits are going to do anything serious for you. It's better than nothing, I'll give you that much, but if you want to build serious muscle, you absolutely need to move heavier weight with a barbell. It's just a fact of training you have to swallow your pride for.

So slightly less strength in exchange for infinitely better aesthetics? Not a hard choice at all

But it's not infinitely better. Look at Olympic lifters (and even powerlifters) who need to stay within certain weight classes. They keep their body fat to an absolute minimum. Everyone except for the heavyweights need to stay in shape. The heavyweights are typically the fat fucks you see snatching 200 kgs and deadlifting 400 kgs.

Yours is probably the biggest misconception about strength training. Your idea of what looks good has been warped by steroid junkies with blown up bowling ball delts and unnatural striations, as well videos of Westside Barbell fatasses pushing weight that would make you snap like a twig.

 

[Ricordanza]

Your erroneous assumption is that training for strength is tantamount to letting yourself go and be a slow fat fuck who can't even sprint 40 meters. You're thinking in extreme black and white and it's giving you all sorts of hilarious ideas on what strength training really is.

That is exactly what strength training is. Otherwise you're just gonna be as strong as a bodybuilder without any of the benefits

You don't get appreciable muscle and real size gains using 12-15 reps. Your body responds to the stress you put it under. Low intensity with high reps doesn't give your body a reason to grow much

Who said anything about low intensity? It's a fact that as long as you reach failure you will grow no matter the rep range except for low reps like 3-5 where it's mostly strength not hypertrophy. You are pilpuling

JFL if you think random high rep bro splits are going to do anything serious for you. It's better than nothing, I'll give you that much, but if you want to build serious muscle, you absolutely need to move heavier weight with a barbell. It's just a fact of training you have to swallow your pride for

I've seen many many guys in the gym doing bro splits and lean bulks and gaining decent muscle without any fat. The weight is irrelevant as long youre doing at least 10 reps to failure, which isnt high reps but that is exactly what a powershitter would say when facing a number greater than 5

But it's not infinitely better. Look at Olympic lifters (and even powerlifters) who need to stay within certain weight classes. They keep their body fat to an absolute minimum. Everyone except for the heavyweights need to stay in shape.

Literally all of them are on PEDs. Even the so called "tested" competitions. You can blast tren, sit on your ass all day long and still gain a shit ton of muscle

Yours is probably the biggest misconception about strength training. Your idea of what looks good has been warped by steroid junkies with blown up bowling ball delts and unnatural striations

Nope. Alex eubank is what id say is ideal and even he's on SARMs

 

[based_meme]

That is exactly what strength training is. Otherwise you're just gonna be as strong as a bodybuilder without any of the benefits

You're just flat-out wrong here and don't know what you're talking about. There's no other to say it (there is, but I don't want to go there KEK).

I read the other thread. You've been training for less than a year and you're still in your noob gains (which you're mostly wasting, but that's on you). Train how you want bro, but please don't preach nonsense you don't know shit about. Have some humility and don't mislead people asking for advice.

Who said anything about low intensity?

You did, with 12-15 reps. You can't maintain moderate to high intensity in that rep range. Your form will break down long before you can complete your sets properly.

It's a fact that as long as you reach failure you will grow no matter the rep range except for low reps like 3-5 where it's mostly strength not hypertrophy. You are pilpuling

If you're a natural, you will make more gains from strength training in the 5-10 rep range. You don't even to go as low as 3 and you never need to train maxes unless you're competing in strength sports. You will also never need to train to failure. You will burn out and need to deload and recover, slowing down your progress.

I've seen many many guys in the gym doing bro splits and lean bulks and gaining decent muscle without any fat. The weight is irrelevant as long youre doing at least 10 reps to failure, which isnt high reps but that is exactly what a powershitter would say when facing a number greater than 5

Strength training != powerlifting. What part of that is difficult to comprehend?

Literally all of them are on PEDs. Even the so called "tested" competitions. You can blast tren, sit on your ass all day long and still gain a shit ton of muscle

So are practically all bodybuilders, but that's obviously not the point. Your claim is that strength training means ignoring literally other aspect of your fitness (agility, stamina, endurance) and turning into a fat fuck. That's demonstrably false with those simple examples.

Nope. Alex eubank is what id say is ideal and even he's on SARMs
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Well, whatever. I don't really give a fuck about opinions on aesthetics. That's not what's important for me. The only thing I care about is high performance in all areas of general fitness (not just strength) - that will naturally demand a low body fat %.

 

[wordingtonian]

Barbellcels and powercels are subhuman
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