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Seems to be working well. Haven’t weighed myself but looking a little better in the mirror in short amount of time.

testosterone cyp 200mg
Epistane 30-40mg
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How long have you been lifting?
You ve been lifting before taking steroids...right?:feelshaha:
 
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How long have you been lifting?
You ve been lifting before taking steroids...right?:feelshaha:
Like 20 years
 
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Like 20 years
Oh alright there is people that never trained that take steroids jfl .
It s good that you re not one of them:feelsokman:
 
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why cardarine? are you trying to cut rn
 
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Oh alright there is people that never trained that take steroids jfl .
It s good that you re not one of them:feelsokman:
Correct, I’m a big supporter of steroids but you need at least a few years to build a natural base for best results.
 
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Ellsworth said:
Seems to be working well. Haven’t weighed myself but looking a little better in the mirror in short amount of time.

testosterone cyp 200mg
Epistane 30-40mg
Cardarine
What are your goals? Epistane isn’t safe to be ran for more than ~6 weeks due to organ health, and you can’t gain appreciable muscle tissue in that short of time, you will look bigger but its temporary. 200mg test is above natural but not really insane results wise.

Cardarine has fat loss and endurance benefits but is heavily linked to cancer.



If you are trying to looksmax nandrolone is very non-androgenic due to conversion to DHN instead of DHT, so acne and hair loss issues largely avoided. However you will have lots of water retention on cycle. Primobolan is the more androgenic and weaker than nandrolone but won’t bloat you and is extremely healthy sterojd-wise but $$$$.

If you don’t care about health, hair, skin, and ur poor I would just take test&tren tbh. Will get big and shredded.

Don’t take tren&nandrolone unless you are blasting and cruising. They will ruin ur pct

i don’t see much of a reason to use above TRT dosage and other steroids while cutting, I am 212 @8% and can cut without losing muscle on 200mg. Most of you are smaller than this.
 
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What are your goals? Epistane isn’t safe to be ran for more than ~6 weeks due to organ health, and you can’t gain appreciable muscle tissue in that short of time, you will look bigger but its temporary. 200mg test is above natural but not really insane results wise.

Cardarine has fat loss and endurance benefits but is heavily linked to cancer.



If you are trying to looksmax nandrolone is very non-androgenic due to conversion to DHN instead of DHT, so acne and hair loss issues largely avoided. However you will have lots of water retention on cycle. Primobolan is the more androgenic and weaker than nandrolone but won’t bloat you and is extremely healthy sterojd-wise but $$$$.

If you don’t care about health, hair, skin I would just take test&tren tbh. Will get big and shredded.
Thanks for your input. I have used epistane a few times and I like it. I only run it 4-6 weeks. I agree you should never run any oral over 6 weeks. The 200mg is just my year round TRT. Tbh I think the results I’m getting are mostly from the Cardarine. My goal right now is to maintain muscle while losing fat. I heard of the cancer risk but that was very large doses in rats. (Also I’m incel so my life is worth nothing tbh). In the future for fat loss I will be running Frag after 6 week break after the cardarine cycle. Then when I’m very lean will run some T3.

As far as steroids my next bulking cycle will be the test, EQ and maybe anavar. Next summer for my cutting cycle I want to do Primo as you suggest. I don’t mind paying the high $ if it’s real. And I will probably finish with a brief 3-4 week cycle of winstrol, but that won’t be till I’m under 10%.
 
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Thanks for your input. I have used epistane a few times and I like it. I only run it 4-6 weeks. I agree you should never run any oral over 6 weeks. The 200mg is just my year round TRT. Tbh I think the results I’m getting are mostly from the Cardarine. My goal right now is to maintain muscle while losing fat. I heard of the cancer risk but that was very large doses in rats. (Also I’m incel so my life is worth nothing tbh). In the future for fat loss I will be running Frag after 6 week break after the cardarine cycle. Then when I’m very lean will run some T3.

As far as steroids my next bulking cycle will be the test, EQ and maybe anavar. Next summer for my cutting cycle I want to do Primo as you suggest. I don’t mind paying the high $ if it’s real. And I will probably finish with a brief 3-4 week cycle of winstrol, but that won’t be till I’m under 10%.
Epi and other dry orals are good for the cosmetic effect it’s just temporary so personally I save the $$, but there is a case to be made for running it on a cut to stay motivated as you look leaner. With your current goals and not caring about cancer the stack sounds good to me.

I wouldn’t bulk with anavar. Using a dry oral that way just seems like a waste to me. Perhaps something like anadrol for the acute strength increase during a plateau on a bulk would be beneficial for a short timeframe. Shedding the water weight, cosmetically, ie with var/winny/epi doesn’t have a noticeable effect unless you are lean, like during the end of a cut. If you want something ‘extra’ just use more testosterone.

I personally like EQ as an ancillary for the endurance/stamina, vascularity, and estrogen control aspect, but IME it isn’t very anabolic. I like bulking on test/nandrolone/eq. Obviously EQ is healthier than nandrolone. I would start out either with test/nandrolone or test/eq, it becomes a pain in the ass to manage sides when you introduce 2 new variables and can’t pinpoint the guilty compound.


I have no experience with frag so can’t comment on that. Used generic GH from 4-6ius/day, effect on fat loss was insignificant to me. T3 is kind of meh, maybe a case to be made for it if you have been cutting for a long time and get bloods showing low levels, issue is it’s very catabolic and indiscriminately will remove fat and muscle. Have you looked into salbutamol as a cutting aid? Appetite suppressant, similar to clen (b2 agonist) except short half life so you don’t have to try and sleep while stimmed out. Also safer.
 
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Epi and other dry orals are good for the cosmetic effect it’s just temporary so personally I save the $$, but there is a case to be made for running it on a cut to stay motivated as you look leaner. With your current goals and not caring about cancer the stack sounds good to me.

I wouldn’t bulk with anavar. Using a dry oral that way just seems like a waste to me. Perhaps something like anadrol for the acute strength increase during a plateau on a bulk would be beneficial for a short timeframe. Shedding the water weight, cosmetically, ie with var/winny/epi doesn’t have a noticeable effect unless you are lean, like during the end of a cut. If you want something ‘extra’ just use more testosterone.

I personally like EQ as an ancillary for the endurance/stamina, vascularity, and estrogen control aspect, but IME it isn’t very anabolic. I like bulking on test/nandrolone/eq. Obviously EQ is healthier than nandrolone. I would start out either with test/nandrolone or test/eq, it becomes a pain in the ass to manage sides when you introduce 2 new variables and can’t pinpoint the guilty compound.
Good advice, I also like to only introduce 1 new compound so I know how to pinpoint where I am getting the sides or positive results. I’ll have to look more into nandrolone. Would love to one day try Tren but you know how that goes lol.

Normally I wouldn’t use epi this high of bf but going on vacation in a few weeks and want to look as good as I can in short amount of time for the pool.
 
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Good advice, I also like to only introduce 1 new compound so I know how to pinpoint where I am getting the sides or positive results. I’ll have to look more into nandrolone. Would love to one day try Tren but you know how that goes lol.

Normally I wouldn’t use epi this high of bf but going on vacation in a few weeks and want to look as good as I can in short amount of time for the pool.
Sounds good. You could add in HCTZ if you want to reduce water retention as well, I take it before beach stuff. It’s relatively safe but you shouldn’t drink. Something like var/epi/winstrol+cialis for veins+diuretic is how I would go about looking best for an occasion.

tren is very individual dependent honestly I get no bad sides up to 400mg besides needing to use accutane or I get bad acne on it. Some people can’t sleep on it so fuck that if that is you. Psychologically it makes me lower inhib but seems to hit me milder than most, I’m always a non-confrontational person tho. Maybe if more incels blasted tren we would have more supreme gentlemen:feelsLSD:

Nothing besides dnp is a more effective fat burner than tren in my experience. Gets you fucking peeled while getting stronger.

i love the CORONAVIRUS. I get to walk around in a mask trenned out with shoe lifts and wear a tank top and intimidate normies with veins coming out of every crevice while death staring. Whenever I take the mask off I lose all intimidation factor, I have a deformed jaw:fuk:
 
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InevatibleRope said:
Sounds good. You could add in HCTZ if you want to reduce water retention as well, I take it before beach stuff. It’s relatively safe but you shouldn’t drink. Something like var/epi/winstrol+cialis for veins+diuretic is how I would go about looking best for an occasion.

tren is very individual dependent honestly I get no bad sides up to 400mg besides needing to use accutane or I get bad acne on it. Some people can’t sleep on it so fuck that if that is you. Psychologically it makes me lower inhib but seems to hit me milder than most, I’m always a non-confrontational person tho. Maybe if more incels blasted tren we would have more supreme gentlemen:feelsLSD:

Nothing besides dnp is a more effective fat burner than tren in my experience. Gets you fucking peeled while getting stronger.

i love the CORONAVIRUS. I get to walk around in a mask trenned out with shoe lifts and wear a tank top and intimidate normies with veins coming out of every crevice while death staring. Whenever I take the mask off I lose all intimidation factor, I have a deformed jaw:fuk:
Damn sorry about your jaw.

Do you ever get tren cough? And if so how frequent like is it one in 5 injections or every one or more rare?
 
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Damn sorry about your jaw.

Do you ever get tren cough? And if so how frequent like is it one in 5 injections or every one or more rare?
Tren cough is an oil embolism. It can happen with any steroid, however tren is typically injected daily due to its most popular ester being acetate, so people often get it with tren, thus the myth it was exclusive to tren is born. I have had an oil embolism twice out of a couple thousand injections. It sucks sure but it lasts a few mins is all. If I was unaware about it being related to the injection I would probably have assumed I am dying lol.

But its not so bad if you know that ur OK. You basically cough hard as fuck for ~2 minutes and pray its over soon Jfl, I can assume if it happened in public somebody would call an ambulance. Look up pulmonory oil microembolism if curious, probably butchered spelling. It’s basically when you get some oil into (its either a vein or blood vessel, the tren fried my memory:fuk:) and then it gets a few drops into your lung, which you have to cough out of ur system
 
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200 is kinda low for someone your size.
 
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Based thread. Ecstasy @Ecstasy gtfih cunt and don't forget that skinny twink IncelCream @IncelCream
 
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Based thread. Ecstasy @Ecstasy gtfih cunt and don't forget that skinny twink IncelCream @IncelCream
Since I have balding genetics I will most likely bald when using roids so I won't do it. But thanks for tagging me
 
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Since I have balding genetics I will most likely bald when using roids so I won't do it. But thanks for tagging me
You will be bald anyway, nigger. You should hop on gear because you have nothing to "lose"
 
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You will be bald anyway, nigger. You should hop on gear because you have nothing to "lose"
No man I will hair transplant soon but since they take the hair from the back of my head I don't have unlimited backup hair and if even more falls out you cant fill all the bald spots later on. I am satisfied with my muscle growth
 
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No man I will hair transplant soon but since they take the hair from the back of my head I don't have unlimited backup hair and if even more falls out you cant fill all the bald spots later on. I am satisfied with my muscle growth
Ever thought about a hair system, muh fellow African-American?
 
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Where do you get steroids? I wanna get HGH but I don’t know where to start and I don’t want knockoff shit.
 
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Ever thought about a hair system, muh fellow African-American?
No man I want real hair
 
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Where do you get steroids? I wanna get HGH but I don’t know where to start and I don’t want knockoff shit.
hgh is so expensive, you’ll need to spend thousands to gain an inch of height + if your plates are closed it won’t do much for you. maybe try getting gh peptides instead and stacking them if your plates are opened
 
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hgh is so expensive, you’ll need to spend thousands to gain an inch of height + if your plates are closed it won’t do much for you. maybe try getting gh peptides instead and stacking them if your plates are opened
Motherfucker, I don’t have that kind of money. Not sure if my plates are closed. Can I get a link to gh peptides?
 
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Motherfucker, I don’t have that kind of money. Not sure if my plates are closed. Can I get a link to gh peptides?
yeah I’ll dm you
 
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No man I want real hair
Try it, boyo. Evasive surgery is not a joke. Maybe you will like it.:smonk:
 
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Languishingrn said:
Motherfucker, I don’t have that kind of money. Not sure if my plates are closed. Can I get a link to gh peptides?
Mk677 is cheap. Maybe try that. Real gh is super expensive and you never know what you get with Chinese shit.
 
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Ellsworth said:
Mk677 is cheap. Maybe try that. Real gh is super expensive and you never know what you get with Chinese shit.
Link?
 
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Based thread. Ecstasy @Ecstasy gtfih cunt and don't forget that skinny twink IncelCream @IncelCream
yeah but foids still prefer skinny twinks over roided beasts
 
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yeah but foids still prefer skinny twinks over roided beasts
*attractive skinny twinks
IncelCream @IncelCream can't pull that pretty boy look off.
 
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yeah but foids still prefer skinny twinks over roided beasts
i mean yes and no. obviously face > height > frame > Muscle mass in general

However many girls actually do like the roided out freak look, it is a niche market but it def exists. Especially fitness girls and older girls like the roided out freak look. obviously they like it on chad more than normie, and on framelet incel even less so, but you make your chances better.
 
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*attractive skinny twinks
IncelCream @IncelCream can't pull that pretty boy look off.
cream is a manlet, no point in looking wider
 
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cream is a manlet, no point in looking wider
Over for him. 5'10" @63kg. His beloved japanese highschool girls physiquemog him.
 
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I wish I could do steroids again tbh but I have learnt from my mistake. Good skin genetics people don't know how lucky they have it.
 
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I will do steroids but only if I can deadlift 280, squat 230, bench 180 and Ohp 130 naturally and credit card close CoC 3.5
Right now I deadlift 225, squat 170, bench 140 and ohp 105 and deep set close CoC 3. Lifting weights for about 13 years since early teen.
I need to get stronger.
 
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I will do steroids but only if I can deadlift 280, squat 230, bench 180 and Ohp 130 naturally and credit card close CoC 3.5
Right now I deadlift 225, squat 170, bench 140 and ohp 105 and deep set close CoC 3. Lifting weights for about 13 years since early teen.
I need to get stronger.
Kg or lbs? :feelskek:
 
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Kg.
Lbs is for fags.
Pretty impressive. Hop on gear, boyo. Why do set up this arbitrary threshold? By the time you reach your goals, you will be a boomer (if you reach that at all)
 
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Pretty impressive. Hop on gear, boyo. Why do set up this arbitrary threshold?
I think I've not reached my limit yet only started taking lifting seriously last year before that I wasnt consistent and it's not that impressive when I'm almost 120kg myself. Once I hit my numbers think I'll cut down to 100 then hop on gear.
 
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I think I've not reached my limit yet only started taking lifting seriously last year before that I wasnt consistent and it's not that impressive when I'm almost 120kg myself. Once I hit my numbers think I'll cut down to 100 then hop on gear.
FFMI? HEIGHT?
 
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Ever thought about a hair system, muh fellow African-American?
Tbh:feelskek: you could literally just fake it and make it. Some chads are prolly doing it rn as we speak :feelsjuice:
 
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Tbh:feelskek: you could literally just fake it and make it. Some chads are prolly doing it rn as we speak :feelsjuice:
How can one fake his manletism?
 
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How can one fake his manletism?
I'm talking about hair. But manletism is another curse that needs brutal treatment:feelsrope:
 
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erenyeager said:
I'm talking about hair. But manletism is another curse that needs brutal treatment:feelsrope:
No hair for your height :bigbrain:
 

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