itsOVER said:
you're not worried about child support bullshit if they get pregnant?
you're not worried about child support bullshit if they get pregnant?
BlackpilledTruecel said:
No, I subscribe to the ideal that our only purpose on this earth is to pass on our genes, so I'm actually happy if that happens.
There's no child support in Thailand unless you were married to the girl.
And you can always just move to Vietnam or something anyway, lol. I've never paid any child support for my kid that I had with a Thai hooker a long time ago.
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@Itsover So how much money is the transplant + moving your hairline down? I reckon I'll need about the same amount of new hair follicles you need.
CopingGymcel said:
2000 EUR no matter how many grafts are done. Includes hotel stay but not flights.
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itsOVER said:
That seems overly cheap. Are you sure this doctor will do a good job and won't be sloppy? You don't want to ruin your hairline for a cheaper price.
CopingGymcel said:
Has decent reviews on realself (4.8 out of 5, from 84 reviews), so I figure I'll roll the dice. I don't have the money for the 'best' doctors (i.e. Erdogan) and my hair clearly needs fixing NOW as it failos me hard.
Of course I can't guarantee 100% success but worst case is I end up exactly like I currently am (i.e. a failed transplant), best case it restores my hairline. It's also not like mine is a massive job - not like some guys who need their entire crown area+ hairline + temples doing.
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itsOVER said:
How much do you think it would cost with Erdogan? Twice the price?
CopingGymcel said:
I've been quoted 2000 grafts for the temples, and I'm not sure how many lowering my hairline would be - maybe another 2000? Erdogan is 2.5 EUR a graft, so likely around 10,000 EUR for lowering hairline + filling temples, or 5,000 if I just did the temples. Either way it's too much. I'd need to be wagecucking a year in a shit country after I graduate to save that, and I really need to do jaw surgery too. Basically I've limited funds + potential earning capacity, so I gotta go with some cheaper options where it's possible.
well 2000 euros is like 7 times the min wage in turkey. These doctors have to lower the price or they can't operate on locals.
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itsOVER said:
Holy shit a this Erdogan result. Jesus Christ. I need this man in my life.
I just need a hair transplant, so Erdogan is probably my man.
CopingGymcel said:itsOVER said:
Holy shit a this Erdogan result. Jesus Christ. I need this man in my life.
I just need a hair transplant, so Erdogan is probably my man.
Yeah no doubt his results are great. It's just the cost is prohibitive. I'm fairly confident I'll get something reasonable though...most people seem happy with the guy I've chose.
Given I need at least hair + jaw surgery, I've got to save money where I can. Something needs doing with my upper eyelid exposure too, but that's gonna be a long way down the line.
CopingGymcel said:
Holy shit a this Erdogan result. Jesus Christ. I need this man in my life.
I just need a hair transplant, so Erdogan is probably my man.
Couple of results from the clinic I'm using:
Seems reasonable enough for the price.
Maybe you should try not being a fatass first
itsOVER said:
Those pics must be old then, because you definitely looked fat in them
Now that you showed me you're not a fatass I support your looksmaxing endeavors
normiesgunnurm said:
No they're not old at all, I literally took them last week. Like a lot of subhumans though I happen to store a ton of fat in my face and have recessed bones, resulting in the potato face look.
itsOVER said:
Maybe the angle then, this last pic you posted makes your face look much leaner, or those other pics make your face looks fatter.
You are a mentalcel.
my advice:
- get on fin man. i take it, i beat the ever living shit out of my body playing ball and lifting and i can still get it up.
- get nw0 hair transplant
- don't leave the homeless shelter. save your money. don't get trapped to a shitty fucking lease. apts cost too much these days.
bite your tongue, get your shit done and get to thailand.
- get on fin man. i take it, i beat the ever living shit out of my body playing ball and lifting and i can still get it up.
- get nw0 hair transplant
- don't leave the homeless shelter. save your money. don't get trapped to a shitty fucking lease. apts cost too much these days.
bite your tongue, get your shit done and get to thailand.
How do you get plastic surgery if you have a job? Aren't you embarrassed that people will know?
mylifeistrash said:
fin is absolute cope. any hair u get on it will fall off as soon as u stop using it and u cant take fin forever, the sides will catch up on u after couple years eventually aka man boobs, impotence, low energy etc
dr-problematic said:
Wat. A peer reviewd study on 18k men only had 5% of them experiencing sides. Anyone discouraging you from using fin are either in the 5% or have lost their hair to balding already. Fin it to win it.
mylifeistrash said:
Too scared of the permanent sides from fin. I'd rather just get another transplant later down the line. The guys in my family don't seem to progress past nw3 anyway.
I'm staying in this hostel until classes are over...mainly due to lack of money rather than any other reason.
LeagueEuW said:
I agree only a small percentage get sides.
Hhwever, those sides are life ruining if you are in the group that still suffers from.them even after stopping fin.
LeagueEuW said:
if u advocate fin u arent even balding and never took it urself
itsOVER said:
LeagueEuW said:
japanese study of thousands had less than 1% with sides and they went away when they stopped taking it lol
itsOVER said:
You had unprotected sex with possibly HIV infested Thai's, yet you're afraid of the fraction of a percentage chance you'll get lifetime sides from fin. KEK.
I guess if you're confident that you won't progress past NW3, then you don't really have to gamble.
CopingGymcel said:
wait, dude, r u on fin? whats ur hairline like right now?
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dr-problematic said:
I'm on fin. Was NW2, used equipoise (suppose to not be harsh on hair), now NW 2.5 :
have a big forehead, which makes it suck even more. I guess going to a NW 2.5 is actually good, because I am getting a hair transplant, so I don't lose those hairs, which are very susceptible to androgens after the transplant.
CopingGymcel said:I'm on fin. Was NW2, used equipoise (suppose to not be harsh on hair), now NW 2.5 :
shit yeah, im nw2 right now, by the looks of it im progressin further. guess what? none of my relatives on both sides had baldness or hair loss.
genetic recombination much.
cucked by destiny and genes.
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dr-problematic said:
LOL. My dad is the NW master and my brother is also a NW 2.5, but he has a small forehead, so he isn't as cucked as me.
CopingGymcel said:
how long r u on fin, any sides so far?
also i have long midface so with receding hairline its over for me
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dr-problematic said:
Been on it for over a year. 0 sides.
My midface is compact, which makes my big forehead seem even bigger.
CopingGymcel said:
its funny cuz i had a bald spot near my right temple since birth, genetically https://imgur.com/a/cVhcO
scary shit is that my other side started catching up, so its fucked, even tho density is supposedly decent on the rest of hair
i think high quality HT will do miracles in the future, just need to save up cash
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dr-problematic said:
Your hairline doesn't look that bad right now. You have a good forehead to support NW2. Just make sure it doesn't recede further. Mirin forehead and eyebrows, mine both suck.
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Hey man. I made an account just to post here.
I wish to tell you not to get the hair transplant. You don't need it right now. Get it at your 30s, or near your age 30. Don't listen to these people. You are not an incel. You are clearly a mentalcel (aka someone who's mental state is convincing them that they are indeed incel).
You would look good with muscle. Honest. Trust. Many men of discipline I know go to the gym for every reason you can think of and still go for it. Don't tell yourself its cope. It will help immensely.
I promise you this. This is coming from a pure incel. Someone who had traction alopecia at a young age. Who is an eyecell (periorbital dark circles and big ones). Overweight and acne too. My own mom skinny shamed me to gaining weight when I lost a lot of it also. Also 24M living with parents with depression. Moving away soon There were issues in my life that would have been resolved, or at the very least, tapered with therapy, or even sadly enough if people just gave a damn. Parents, brother, and friends wouldn't care. They would also give cliche advice like confidence. It took me a long time to realise that confidence and other such nuances that people like to lecture others about is, for the most part, a hard thing to achieve and obtain.
Please don't listen to these fellers. I now know why many would just say to stay from websites like this. Don't get the HT. I got mine two months ago and I wish I had gotten mine way way earlier, and I couldn't for mostly financial reasons and of course, the general lack of self-satisfaction with myself. I clearly needed it, but no one wanted to aid me. Again, my hair issue was non-genetic and environmental. YOURS IS. Wait til you are 30, and a bit more confident and successful. No point in getting a HT now.
I promise you. You look okay. Go to the gym and focus on your goals. No point caring about such useless shit. You will regret it when your hair line changes and it doesn't coincide with the changes the HT has made.
I wish to tell you not to get the hair transplant. You don't need it right now. Get it at your 30s, or near your age 30. Don't listen to these people. You are not an incel. You are clearly a mentalcel (aka someone who's mental state is convincing them that they are indeed incel).
You would look good with muscle. Honest. Trust. Many men of discipline I know go to the gym for every reason you can think of and still go for it. Don't tell yourself its cope. It will help immensely.
I promise you this. This is coming from a pure incel. Someone who had traction alopecia at a young age. Who is an eyecell (periorbital dark circles and big ones). Overweight and acne too. My own mom skinny shamed me to gaining weight when I lost a lot of it also. Also 24M living with parents with depression. Moving away soon There were issues in my life that would have been resolved, or at the very least, tapered with therapy, or even sadly enough if people just gave a damn. Parents, brother, and friends wouldn't care. They would also give cliche advice like confidence. It took me a long time to realise that confidence and other such nuances that people like to lecture others about is, for the most part, a hard thing to achieve and obtain.
Please don't listen to these fellers. I now know why many would just say to stay from websites like this. Don't get the HT. I got mine two months ago and I wish I had gotten mine way way earlier, and I couldn't for mostly financial reasons and of course, the general lack of self-satisfaction with myself. I clearly needed it, but no one wanted to aid me. Again, my hair issue was non-genetic and environmental. YOURS IS. Wait til you are 30, and a bit more confident and successful. No point in getting a HT now.
I promise you. You look okay. Go to the gym and focus on your goals. No point caring about such useless shit. You will regret it when your hair line changes and it doesn't coincide with the changes the HT has made.
kickbuttmario said:
what the fuck are u even talkin about? u got ur HT at 24 and happy as fuck but he cant do it at 26 and will be miserable? u lack sense and coherence, pal
LeagueEuW said:
I'd rather get HIV than have my dick never work again 100% srs.
Plus the transmission rate of HIV is 1/2000 even if she's infected. Assuming a 10% infection rate which is likely far too high, that drops your cumulative risk to 1/20000 - for a side effect which IMO is far less severe than your dick ceasing to function (srsly the drugs are no big deal these days, I take em whenever I go whoring now). And I'd wager far more than 1/20000 have permanent sides from fin.
No amount of fin shilling is going to change my mind on this. I'm not taking it, end of story.
dr-problematic said:
Yeah I don't understand that wall of text. My hair obviously needs sorting out - why the fuck suffer 4 years of this shit in my younger years? I don' really care if when I'm 40 it looks shit, can just get another hair transplant or just shave it off then cos there's less social stigma to losing hair at 40 and slaying days are over by then anyway.
itsOVER said:
completely agree about fin, specialyl addint cureable only by surgergy man boobs on top of everything its fucking terrible to take. id rather rock hair system or go bald than swallow fin.
also yeah, the youth is priceless. 18-28 are golden years, they cant be bought for any price or brought back. thats the time u gotta enjoy life the most.
moreover noone knows if any of us will live up to 35+ anyway, we can die any second from random heart failure or car accident
link me ur surgeon in pm btw, curious to see whom u chose
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dr-problematic said:
itsOVER said:
First. Our problems are different. His is a general genetic hair loss male pattern baldness sort of deal. Mine isn't. I was losing my hair due to bullshit religious reasons (I'm Sikh by the way). Type up traction alopecia for sikh men and you will understand the reasoning. The hair line for me was FUCKED. I had idiots that tell me about confidence, but eventually, you will see that it was them mostly projecting themselves onto you. In reality, they had issues that also became obvious. Those same people would complain about women too and other things. They are what you would call "The Normies". Don't worry, they will lose in the end unless they also change their ways. Every man of discipline knows this. It's why they started to follow that path.
Second. You are clearly mentalcel. YOU GOOD SIR are actually good looking. And when I say that, I mean to say "Average", but with so much potential that I can easily call you a 7-10/10 in that final form. Easily. With muscle .Even higher. Keep in mind, I'm mainly talking about toned muscle, not jacked up muscle. I am saying this to you cause I can easily see you being much better looking. Like very easy. You think those chads didn't also work out? Figure out ways to "looksmax" without resorting to bullshit means for the sake of their pride?
You guys posted pictures of these women going honky dory for hot abusive chads, but have any of you questioned yourselves and said; "Will these women even win in the end? Would I want women like them around me?" Same with that GayLubeOil feller from Red PIll. I thought you guys were talking crazy. He was clearly a 8-10 easy. That guy went balls to the walls on this.
And finally, I am not happy about the HT. Not because it didn't look better, I am pleased with the result, but personally speaking, I just wish I had my hair line from the very beginning, not fucked up at all kind of deal, and then went on the path of discipline when I was much much younger. I am on the path right now and I am telling you, this HT won't make you happy at all. It will look better (only slightly), but your hair line is actually quite fine. Truth. I am speaking from heart to heart here. If you guys wish to not take this advice, criticise me, and so forth, go ahead. Perhaps I am also projecting my insecurities to you too as I speak of this.
Only reason why I posted this cause I saw your picture and thought you looked fine. Trust me, I am more INCEL than most of you and have no idea what bullshit logic hamstering shit you guys came up with. Second, whenever I see someone say "gym is cope" when CLEARLY it will boost SMV, I am just at a loss for words.
Also for the love of god, "slaying years?" Get the fuck out with that. If you're still a virgin now at 26, I seriously doubt you will be able to slay for a while. PS. Our slaying years are our prime years, which is 30+.
kickbuttmario said:
Not a virgin but not a slayer either. However, the plan is to move to SEA and become one for as long as possible.
30+ is not prime years. Your actual prime years are like 15-21. After that you've got around 9 more decent years until you're 30. After 30 it's kinda meh, but you can still pick up decent women if you have good looks. After 40 everyone looks like shit, gg, it's over, time to run hooker game.
No way in hell will I make it to 7/10. I'd be quite happy with 5/10 which will suffice in Asia. No, I'm nowhere near 5 now, more like 3.
Tbh I think you'd be happier on theredpill. Talk about discipline and confidence etc...it's not what we believe in here. Well not most of us anyway. It's all about looks in the end. And my hairline is obviously NW2 subhuman garbage. A natural hairline is one that runs straight across with no recession.
kickbuttmario said:
only thing i can agree out of wall of text is that this dude is mentally ill and a good looking fella with terrible style.
he could easily smash ugly english chicks if he was any successul in life.
on the topic
i think mourihno has somewhat same hairline as i do, gotta step up my cover game i guess
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itsOVER said:
Look. I will repeat what I said. You are mentalcel. I promise. Many have said it too. You are not a PURE incel. I am. Many here are. We're not trying to bullshit you on this one. I promise you. Go to the gym, actually learn self-improvement, and you should be fine.
I will neither agree nor disagree with your statement on what the "slayer years" are. It's up to you to decide what your "slayer" years are like. I've met a feller that told me had a foursome for his first time. Yeah, so three sluts. Go figure. The thing is though he's also one of those fellers that has a hard time breaking out of his current situation (aka bad money, depression, so forth).
Now. I know you said confidence and stuff is for redpill. I promise man, I am not confident but I know the truth when I see it. We're men. Most of us, if not all of us, want to follow the path of virtue. Women generally don't. They will feel no wrong lying to you. So please, believe in me. Don't get the HT. See and go the 9 yards for self-improvement first. If you are truly a baldcel, in the sense that your entire crown and front of head will be gone, then sure. But you don't have that midface thing going on at all. So just trust.
But I have to ask man. Did anyone ever call you ugly growing up? In your middle school + years?
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