Discussion MGTOW is wrong about self-actualization.

[Shinichi]

I think the MGTOW community is based, TFM especially, but he and the group as a whole are wrong when it comes to the idea that instead of being plugged into the gynocentric system you should just follow your interest. I don't endorse the system we are under and want women's rights to be taken away as soon as possible. What I am saying though is that the view MGTOW has on men is very Randian. They really believe that most men both have the ambition and skills to do great things. Call me a pessimist but that's so far from the trurh it's laughable. Most men, and women for that matter, don't have great aspirations of becoming an artist or inventor or leader. Nor do they have the talent to do so. Most Men want to procreate and provide for their offspring. That's it, cause ultimately that's pretty much all their good for.

 

[Med Anime]

Call me a pessimist but that's so far from the trurh it's laughable

i am not
99% of men don't really have a goal or anything that can aspire to do and i can't blame them. there's nothing worth doing in this life

 

[parzurnacs]

the view MGTOW has on men is very Randian

Are you refering to Ayn Rand? Or to Macho Man Randy Savage?

 

[Puppeter]

It was pretty based indeed before the ban in 2021 in cuckkit lots of angry and pissed foids demanded our ban just because we wanted to be away from toilets

 

[Shinichi]

Are you refering to Ayn Rand? Or to Macho Man Randy Savage?

The one from bioshock.

 

[Robb97]

How do you want to achieve self actualization, if you don't even satisify your basic human needs like fucking and physical human interaction?

 

[subhuman]

Truly great people would define their own values based on their own unique perspective on life, rather accepting the values handed to them. From that perspective, I agree with mgtow. Their resistance to conformity to societal norms is admirable. Everyone doesnt have to be some great inventor or leader or whatever. They should live according to their own values in a way that embraces life rather than denying it.

That said, I do think mgtow is life denying by trying to cope that foids don’t matter. Because relationships are an integral part of the human experience. Also making a commitment to celibacy is life denying because it denies the physical pleasures that are a part of life. It’s true that our society has ruined sex and relationships, but instead of passively accepting it like a slave, they should struggle against it.