Men and women are in a irrecoverable pediment. Modern technology advance humanity to the point many elements of history is hardly applicable anymore, such as war, gender roles, children morality, etc. as a consequence we really don't need each other like our ancestors did. If we don't need each other, then there are fewer reasons to invest in each other. That's definitely the mentality the average women has, especially towards her looksmatch and under.
This reality is increasing the count of incels in given population, and this thread will demonstrate that was not only inevitable, but also irreversible, even if there was a global 'collapse'.
Since the paleolithic era humans always had high infant morality rate and a sex ratio geared towards men.
The highest being 11% in Afghanistan.
www.worldatlas.com
(With child mortality declining) Once the couple settle on their last child, what continues the sexual relationship is non-reproductive sex. As a result, hedonism was inevitable. This is not the basis which our ancestors engage in marriages. Everything had a overarching purpose, including sex, in the eyes of the past. To top it all off, women only specially wish to fuck chads. The outcome of modern hedonism you see are the characteristics of fallen empires in modern places like delayed marriages, identity politics, divorces, broken homes, open hypergamy, emotionalism, etc.
Many like to propose this is the fault of not sending simps to war. First of all, you don't send your most effeminate guys to the battlefield if you want to protect your country and obtain loot from other people. Also, the decline of military participation because of tech, much like hedonism, was inevitable.
Before the machine guns, there were gatling guns and multiple-barrel firearms slowly rendering the use of large, infantry formations as useless tactic in favor more clusters of military units or guerrilla warfare, which means fewer people enter the battlefield. And nukes removed the possibilities for conquests, thus reducing the possibilities of kidnapping women and forcibly bare their captures' families.
This matters because for most of human history the warrior class were outside of the general population. Once these solders settle with them, they had their war-brides, leaving the common women with the common men to their devices. Now, the majority of the strongest men with hunter eyes and warrior looks (Chads) never leave for war, forcing the rest of the guys to compete w/ them on an unbalanced, dating field.
Not to mention there's a surplus of men in western countries due to immigration.
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With these factors in mind, in a absolute monogamous, global paradigm (let alone in a polygamous one) with the same medical/technological progress, incels are destined to exist.
Several researchers say around 10km a day.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2352409X18306084
Modern Aircraft can mobilize around the globe in less than day (if pushed to their limits)
https://www.theguardian.com/science/2005/nov/12/thisweekssciencequestions.aeronautics
Women's exposure of the number of men was significantly smaller in ancient times than today, which means their dating pool was likewise smaller as well. Women's hypergamous senses wasn't as sensitive like now, thanks to the media, and will be worse in the future (absolute globalism).
Around 80-90 percent of common men in the past were farmers, in present day it's approximately 2-30% (depending on location).
This is significant because there are fewer need for farmers, self-employment can no longer be expected like it used to. It's also declining over time in many places. This translates the desire for large government for financial backing and security (even if people's taxes get higher, resulting the reduction of spending more, working harder, and innovation).
Even if there was a “collapse” of modern civilization, civilians will quickly return back to big brother since the vast majority of them can't solely support themselves with modern standards. What comes out of it is more dystopian laws and taxes in favour of women (emotional, compliant voters & tax payers which are perfect for dictatorships).
Even female biologists are coming to the similar conclusions.
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There used to be a time where the gender role were balanced-men provided the materials, women will 'dress' the materials. E.g. men will hunt for food for the family, women will cook the food for the family. Men would get wool or cotton, the women will use it weave clothes.
Men are still demanded to provide (as their attractiveness is incorporated into it, unlike women), but feminine roles have been virtually automated within the home. This creates an imbalance in the nuclear family model. Anyone can go and get a prepared meal or get robots to clean their living spaces (roombas) in minutes unlike in antiquity.
Not having to attend the household as much, modern women have more income than ever from employment, and since they don't date down, the requirements in dating for men has gone up with fewer payoffs. Modernity has done nothing to compensate for it, it actually make women more spoiled and less companionably coveted.
I mean, universally is a trope that gfs/wives nag their “SO”s & complain about everything without really having something positive in return (that men would care about). That's not really love, that's for certain. It's about time normie guys should ask themselves "what's the point?"
It additionally doesn't help that the average woman don't find the average man attractive to begin with.
https://incels.is/threads/a-signifi...r-gender-thinks-or-behaves-like-yours.168597/
Insults to injuries, female infidelity rates are rising due to the access of dating apps.
https://www.yourlifechoices.com.au/community/increasing-number-of-women-cheating-around-the-globe/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...l-affairs-and-the-rise-of-digital-infidelity/
But consider this; with the acceptance of single parenthood, there's really no logical reason for modern men to invest in women, especially when the outcomes of single fatherhood is just as excellent or more so, than single motherhood's.
Fatherhood is more naturally beneficial for children anyway:
These findings coincide with the devastating affects of father absence.
https://thefatherlessgeneration.wordpress.com/statistics/
You won't find results of similar significance for mother absence.
If you think that Islam will save the west, know that more and more Muslims are leaving Islam. Likely because once you ask question on the Qu'ran's claims and look for evidence prior to the time of the Siras/Hadiths/Tafsir (the vast majority are from 100-300 centuries after Muhammad, if he existed), it's either questionable, non-existent, or too late.
Islam wouldn't help anyway, since Islam promotes polygyny (keep in mind the sex ratio again and that war is declining), the number of western incels are going to rise in droves regardless.
www.secularism.org.uk
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2015/07/islam-fastest-shrinking-religion-in-the-world
The conclusion of this data highlights the fact the environment which our male progenitors bred under to create you and me is non-existent. The ancient, social contracts like monogamy, masculine protection, family, etc. were built from the needs of the other sex, however, technology has & is gradually removed those needs and hedonism is here to stay, thus dissolving all the contracts.
Because of modern warfare, there's never going to be a physical, civil war that'll change the west (hereby the rest of the world). There is a war, a psychological one (one that may escalate into a digital one) among sexual strategies, in which, men are losing because their desperation and naïveté of the whole situation. Even if there was a destruction of the modern world, bluepillers (the majority of males) are more likely blame the symptoms, not the source-gynocentrism, like we see with traditionalists (“Men need more responsibility” without any means of enforcing it and/or payoff). Because of these guys, there's not going to be a collapse to correct civilization by removing feminism, rather, an endless cycle of dictatorship, feminine selfishness/gaslighting, simpry, and destruction.
It's truly over, and for us, it never began.
What is the solution?
Given that there are more males being born, male inclined immigration, polygamy, uncensored hypergamy, and the rate of inceldom are irreversibly trending, the only ways forward are sexbots and artificial wombs for men, even if traditionalism magically made a comeback.
It's pretty much guaranteed that China, India, (maybe) Russia, and any location that promote polygyny will continue the development of artificial wombs (not quite so sure about sex robots tho), even if the west abandons the project. Women will bitch about it (not realizing that only makes them less attractive), but at that point, the amount of men who won't care will outnumber the soys who would.
The countries that banned such machinery will ultimately vote in favor of them, because immigrates (imported due to the low birth rates) who want them will eventually replace the native voters/legislators. From there we might finally acquire equality in this irrecoverable pediment between the sexes.
(Until such technology arrives, surrogate mothers may be our only option).
TL;DR: Thanks to modern medicine and technology, the relationship between men and women have been permanently cut opened. Not even a collapse or traditionalism can patch the wound together. The only things men can hope for are sex robots and artificial wombs to compensate the limited supply of females.
This reality is increasing the count of incels in given population, and this thread will demonstrate that was not only inevitable, but also irreversible, even if there was a global 'collapse'.
Since the paleolithic era humans always had high infant morality rate and a sex ratio geared towards men.
https://ourworldindata.org/child-mortality-in-the-past
The highest being 11% in Afghanistan.
Infant Mortality Rate by Country
In Afghanistan, the country with the highest infant mortality rate, 112.8 out of 1,000 infants born are susceptible to dying.
www.worldatlas.com
https://ourworldindata.org/sex-ratio-at-birth
(With child mortality declining) Once the couple settle on their last child, what continues the sexual relationship is non-reproductive sex. As a result, hedonism was inevitable. This is not the basis which our ancestors engage in marriages. Everything had a overarching purpose, including sex, in the eyes of the past. To top it all off, women only specially wish to fuck chads. The outcome of modern hedonism you see are the characteristics of fallen empires in modern places like delayed marriages, identity politics, divorces, broken homes, open hypergamy, emotionalism, etc.
Many like to propose this is the fault of not sending simps to war. First of all, you don't send your most effeminate guys to the battlefield if you want to protect your country and obtain loot from other people. Also, the decline of military participation because of tech, much like hedonism, was inevitable.
https://www.marines.mil/Portals/1/Publications/MCTP 3-01C (Formerly MCWP 3-15.1).pdf?ver=2016-08-02-094831-553
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0160791X19300417
Before the machine guns, there were gatling guns and multiple-barrel firearms slowly rendering the use of large, infantry formations as useless tactic in favor more clusters of military units or guerrilla warfare, which means fewer people enter the battlefield. And nukes removed the possibilities for conquests, thus reducing the possibilities of kidnapping women and forcibly bare their captures' families.
This matters because for most of human history the warrior class were outside of the general population. Once these solders settle with them, they had their war-brides, leaving the common women with the common men to their devices. Now, the majority of the strongest men with hunter eyes and warrior looks (Chads) never leave for war, forcing the rest of the guys to compete w/ them on an unbalanced, dating field.
Not to mention there's a surplus of men in western countries due to immigration.
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With these factors in mind, in a absolute monogamous, global paradigm (let alone in a polygamous one) with the same medical/technological progress, incels are destined to exist.
https://worldbuilding.stackexchange...dieval-setting-how-far-apart-should-towns-bes
Several researchers say around 10km a day.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2352409X18306084
Modern Aircraft can mobilize around the globe in less than day (if pushed to their limits)
https://www.theguardian.com/science/2005/nov/12/thisweekssciencequestions.aeronautics
Women's exposure of the number of men was significantly smaller in ancient times than today, which means their dating pool was likewise smaller as well. Women's hypergamous senses wasn't as sensitive like now, thanks to the media, and will be worse in the future (absolute globalism).
Around 80-90 percent of common men in the past were farmers, in present day it's approximately 2-30% (depending on location).
This is significant because there are fewer need for farmers, self-employment can no longer be expected like it used to. It's also declining over time in many places. This translates the desire for large government for financial backing and security (even if people's taxes get higher, resulting the reduction of spending more, working harder, and innovation).
Even if there was a “collapse” of modern civilization, civilians will quickly return back to big brother since the vast majority of them can't solely support themselves with modern standards. What comes out of it is more dystopian laws and taxes in favour of women (emotional, compliant voters & tax payers which are perfect for dictatorships).
Even female biologists are coming to the similar conclusions.
German feminist-biologist about the future of unttractive men
https://www.deutschlandfunk.de/zukunft-der-menschheit-evolutionsbiologin-viele-maenner.1310.de.html?dram:article_id=492817 She says the following (summary done by another brocel): >Sex is a limited resource for males that the females control. That males try often and persistently to establish...
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There used to be a time where the gender role were balanced-men provided the materials, women will 'dress' the materials. E.g. men will hunt for food for the family, women will cook the food for the family. Men would get wool or cotton, the women will use it weave clothes.
Men are still demanded to provide (as their attractiveness is incorporated into it, unlike women), but feminine roles have been virtually automated within the home. This creates an imbalance in the nuclear family model. Anyone can go and get a prepared meal or get robots to clean their living spaces (roombas) in minutes unlike in antiquity.
https://quatr.us/clothing/history-weaving-early-hand-weaving.htm
https://www.acrwebsite.org/volumes/5862/volumes/v08/NA-
Not having to attend the household as much, modern women have more income than ever from employment, and since they don't date down, the requirements in dating for men has gone up with fewer payoffs. Modernity has done nothing to compensate for it, it actually make women more spoiled and less companionably coveted.
I mean, universally is a trope that gfs/wives nag their “SO”s & complain about everything without really having something positive in return (that men would care about). That's not really love, that's for certain. It's about time normie guys should ask themselves "what's the point?"
It additionally doesn't help that the average woman don't find the average man attractive to begin with.
https://incels.is/threads/a-signifi...r-gender-thinks-or-behaves-like-yours.168597/
Insults to injuries, female infidelity rates are rising due to the access of dating apps.
https://www.yourlifechoices.com.au/community/increasing-number-of-women-cheating-around-the-globe/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...l-affairs-and-the-rise-of-digital-infidelity/
But consider this; with the acceptance of single parenthood, there's really no logical reason for modern men to invest in women, especially when the outcomes of single fatherhood is just as excellent or more so, than single motherhood's.
https://epublications.marquette.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1154&context=socs_fac
Fatherhood is more naturally beneficial for children anyway:
These findings coincide with the devastating affects of father absence.
https://thefatherlessgeneration.wordpress.com/statistics/
You won't find results of similar significance for mother absence.
If you think that Islam will save the west, know that more and more Muslims are leaving Islam. Likely because once you ask question on the Qu'ran's claims and look for evidence prior to the time of the Siras/Hadiths/Tafsir (the vast majority are from 100-300 centuries after Muhammad, if he existed), it's either questionable, non-existent, or too late.
Islam wouldn't help anyway, since Islam promotes polygyny (keep in mind the sex ratio again and that war is declining), the number of western incels are going to rise in droves regardless.
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The conclusion of this data highlights the fact the environment which our male progenitors bred under to create you and me is non-existent. The ancient, social contracts like monogamy, masculine protection, family, etc. were built from the needs of the other sex, however, technology has & is gradually removed those needs and hedonism is here to stay, thus dissolving all the contracts.
Because of modern warfare, there's never going to be a physical, civil war that'll change the west (hereby the rest of the world). There is a war, a psychological one (one that may escalate into a digital one) among sexual strategies, in which, men are losing because their desperation and naïveté of the whole situation. Even if there was a destruction of the modern world, bluepillers (the majority of males) are more likely blame the symptoms, not the source-gynocentrism, like we see with traditionalists (“Men need more responsibility” without any means of enforcing it and/or payoff). Because of these guys, there's not going to be a collapse to correct civilization by removing feminism, rather, an endless cycle of dictatorship, feminine selfishness/gaslighting, simpry, and destruction.
It's truly over, and for us, it never began.
What is the solution?
Given that there are more males being born, male inclined immigration, polygamy, uncensored hypergamy, and the rate of inceldom are irreversibly trending, the only ways forward are sexbots and artificial wombs for men, even if traditionalism magically made a comeback.
It's pretty much guaranteed that China, India, (maybe) Russia, and any location that promote polygyny will continue the development of artificial wombs (not quite so sure about sex robots tho), even if the west abandons the project. Women will bitch about it (not realizing that only makes them less attractive), but at that point, the amount of men who won't care will outnumber the soys who would.
The countries that banned such machinery will ultimately vote in favor of them, because immigrates (imported due to the low birth rates) who want them will eventually replace the native voters/legislators. From there we might finally acquire equality in this irrecoverable pediment between the sexes.
(Until such technology arrives, surrogate mothers may be our only option).
TL;DR: Thanks to modern medicine and technology, the relationship between men and women have been permanently cut opened. Not even a collapse or traditionalism can patch the wound together. The only things men can hope for are sex robots and artificial wombs to compensate the limited supply of females.
