Marx blamed the Jews too, even though he was one himself.

[Freixel]

I've read almost all of Marx's books, and in more than one he points to the Jews and the Jewish commercial spirit as what lies behind the bourgeoisie, as the very essence of capitalism.

I quote a sentence from the book "The Holy Family" by Marx & Engels, p. 134:

"The bourgeois free society is absolutely Jewish in its commercial essence, and by definition, forms part of it."

It wouldn't surprise me if Hitler secretly read Marx as well, and that he used him to formulate his ideological theory.

 

[fokusin]

I've read almost all of Marx's books, and in more than one he points to the Jews and the Jewish commercial spirit as what lies behind the bourgeoisie, as the very essence of capitalism.

I quote a sentence from the book "The Holy Family" by Marx & Engels, p. 134:

"The bourgeois free society is absolutely Jewish in its commercial essence, and by definition, forms part of it."

It wouldn't surprise me if Hitler secretly read Marx as well, and that he used him to formulate his ideological theory.

He leechmaxxed like a jew

 

[Freixel]

He leeched like a jew

Are neets jews in esence?

 

[fokusin]

Arte neets jews in esence?

could be

 

[captchawaffen]

xhe was a wholesome honorary aryan btw..

 

[NEB.feelsdevil]

I've read almost all of Marx's books

Lifefuel for communistcels!

 

[parbate2025]

I've read almost all of Marx's books, and in more than one he points to the Jews and the Jewish commercial spirit as what lies behind the bourgeoisie, as the very essence of capitalism.

I quote a sentence from the book "The Holy Family" by Marx & Engels, p. 134:



It wouldn't surprise me if Hitler secretly read Marx as well, and that he used him to formulate his ideological theory.

Marx was a popular figure and everyone at that time read his work and kind of researched on it.
Same goes to engels too.
But accepting or rejecting his theories is a personal opinion

 

[Freixel]

Lifefuel for communistcels!

I'm not communist, just an intellectual interested in politics

 

[RandomGuy]

I'm not communist, just an intellectual interested in politics

 

[Xul]

Jarx mlamed teh bews

 

[Freixel]

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Based Bakunin

At some point I'll have to read him too

 

[Hoodpreet]

I haven’t read him, but I get the vibe his ideology was at least partly rooted in ethnic resentment. I mean, it’s sort of expected that an ethnic Jew growing up in a very hostile and nationalistic German Empire would form a political theory about how ethnicity isn’t real and only “class” matters, and how the ideal world is stateless, classless, and borderless

 

[FarangInDaNang]

Are neets jews in esence?

Being spiritually Jewish is based, make goy work like cattle whilst you neetmaxx and leechmaxx, sounds good to me

 

[ANTAGONIST]

Being spiritually Jewish is based, make goy work like cattle whilst you neetmaxx and leechmaxx, sounds good to me

 

[MacheteRape]

Marx is speaking of the Judaic religion, not the jewish race as a whole. Probably just to blend in inside of an increasingly antisemitic Germany, really.

 

[CADcel]

jew blames jews for jewish things and aspires to make countries run under a different jewish system

 

[DjentlemanDuke]

Marx, Engels and Hitler were based

 

[CADcel]

Marx is speaking of the Judaic religion, not the jewish race as a whole. Probably just to blend in inside of an increasingly antisemitic Germany, really.

i can see this

 

[dumbozhina]

the go-to text for marxists on jews is On The Jewish Question, obviously.
he and his family were Christians, though.

 

[Excalibur]

Religious Jews hated him and his family for being assimilated Christian converts, just as Germans did for him and his family being ethnic Jews.

His entire philosophy of Communism was created out of resentment and hatred of the status quo and the people that surrounded him.

 

[nihilum]

Bakunin too.

 

[Zer0/∞]

We live in an inter Jewish power struggle

 

[Freixel]

We live in an inter Jewish power struggle

 

[MacheteRape]

Marx, Engels and Hitler were based

-Tom Metzger, probably

 

[Freixel]

Marx is speaking of the Judaic religion, not the jewish race as a whole. Probably just to blend in inside of an increasingly antisemitic Germany, really.

It doesn't matter; I'm not suggesting that Marx was a racialist, but rather that culturally Jews are the main propagators of capitalism.

Yes, Hitler had a whole ethnic doctrine about Jews and the Aryan race, but I'm not saying that Marx also possessed one. Hitler himself wrote in MK that in his younger years, when he worked in construction, he tried to read everything he could about the Jewish question, socialism, and antisemitism; it's likely he came across Marx's book "On the Jewish Question" at some point.

the go-to text for marxists on jews is On The Jewish Question, obviously.
he and his family were Christians, though.

 

[Freixel]

Religious Jews hated him and his family for being assimilated Christian converts, just as Germans did for him and his family being ethnic Jews.

His entire philosophy of Communism was created out of resentment and hatred of the status quo and the people that surrounded him.

I haven’t read him, but I get the vibe his ideology was at least partly rooted in ethnic resentment. I mean, it’s sort of expected that an ethnic Jew growing up in a very hostile and nationalistic German Empire would form a political theory about how ethnicity isn’t real and only “class” matters, and how the ideal world is stateless, classless, and borderless

Whatever, there's also a lot of hate, resentment, and bitterness in the Blackpill community, and that doesn't make Blackpill any less true.

I think Marx's critique of capitalism is correct. I don't share a large part of his philosophy, I am not a dialectical materialist, nor do I want to abolish the state, but the socialists of his time were right about many things, especially in pointing out and denouncing the appalling conditions in which the working class lived.

Jarx mlamed teh bews

Are you retarded?

 

[Freixel]

Marx is speaking of the Judaic religion, not the jewish race as a whole.

To clarify, I'm not saying that Marx specifically referred to ethnic Jews in the thread title, but he must have been aware of his roots nonetheless.

What I'm trying to point out is that Hitler likely read him and other authors critical of Judaism, both ethnical and cultural, to shape his worldview.

 

[autisticandugly]

I've read almost all of Marx's books, and in more than one he points to the Jews and the Jewish commercial spirit as what lies behind the bourgeoisie, as the very essence of capitalism.

I quote a sentence from the book "The Holy Family" by Marx & Engels, p. 134:



It wouldn't surprise me if Hitler secretly read Marx as well, and that he used him to formulate his ideological theory.

marx is actually pretty good, as i was younger when i watched ETLB in my pol days, i was heavily against communism due to me believeing its a jewish conspiracy but i later read marx and lenin later on as i wanted to understand my 'political enemies' and they have good points indeed.

 

[Freixel]

marx is actually pretty good, as i was younger when i watched ETLB in my pol days, i was heavily against communism due to me believeing its a jewish conspiracy but i later read marx and lenin later on as i wanted to understand my 'political enemies' and they have good points indeed.

I mean, it's true that many of the perpetrators of the Russian Revolution were Jewish, and that there are many Jews involved in the left (also in the right; they're involved across the entire political spectrum, really). But there's much to be salvaged from Socialism and Communism.

You can learn from Marx's doctrine without necessarily agreeing with everything or being Jewish. The fight against the abuses of capitalism remains valid regardless of your ethnic origin.

 

[autisticandugly]

I mean, it's true that many of the perpetrators of the Russian Revolution were Jewish, and that there are many Jews involved in the left (also in the right; they're involved across the entire political spectrum, really). But there's much to be salvaged from Socialism and Communism.

You can learn from Marx's doctrine without necessarily agreeing with everything or being Jewish. The fight against the abuses of capitalism remains valid regardless of your ethnic origin.

i admire the revolution as it made russia progress industrially from the monarchy that did nothing, i believe the jewry came in the ussr later on during the cold war, especially post stalin with once instance when high ranking jews from the soviet union helped nelson mandela which got me to that conclusion.

 

[Freixel]

i admire the revolution as it made russia progress industrially from the monarchy that did nothing, i believe the jewry came in the ussr later on during the cold war, especially post stalin with once instance when high ranking jews from the soviet union helped nelson mandela which got me to that conclusion.

They were there from the beginning.

Look at Karl Radek.

But that doesn't invalidate the revolution for me either.

Industrializing a society is always something to admire.

 

[tired as fuck]

Whatever, there's also a lot of hate, resentment, and bitterness in the Blackpill community, and that doesn't make Blackpill any less true.

I think Marx's critique of capitalism is correct. I don't share a large part of his philosophy, I am not a dialectical materialist, nor do I want to abolish the state, but the socialists of his time were right about many things, especially in pointing out and denouncing the appalling conditions in which the working class lived.


Are you retarded?

the socialists of his time were so called "utopian socialists", Marx distanced himself from them and caused the International to get fucked in splinters and splinters and internal wars.



I am very ignorant regarding Marx and his ideas. But I understood from your comment that you equated socialists s.a. Proudhon to Marx.

 

[autisticandugly]

They were there from the beginning.

Look at Karl Radek.

But that doesn't invalidate the revolution for me either.

Industrializing a society is always something to admire.

i was speaking on the jewry that came along, not jews themselves, seeing that the ussr also was one of the first nations to recognise israel, im not like these guys who say the revolution was jewish and killed a bunch of christians like these cuck-servatives.

but you should acknowledge that jews do have a specific nature that is seperate to whites, being that they are inherently materialist and greedy, the etymology of the common sur names of jews links back to the romans when thier names were heavily linked with theft and subversion and we see this today, now i do not denounce what jews have done but when you give jews too much power, they start to do jew things, which ultimately led to the fall of the ussr, post stalin in particular led to this.

 

[Freixel]

the socialists of his time were so called "utopian socialists", Marx distanced himself from them and caused the International to get fucked in splinters and splinters and internal wars.



I am very ignorant regarding Marx and his ideas. But I understood from your comment that you equated socialists s.a. Proudhon to Marx.

Yes, I know about the utopian socialists; I'm using the modern colloquial definition of socialist that encompasses the whole spectrum from socialism to communism.

In any case, there will always be confusion on this; communists consider "Socialism" as an intermediate stage on the road to Communism and the disappearance of the state.

I'm using it generally to encompass everyone.

 

[tired as fuck]

Yes, I know about the utopian socialists; I'm using the modern colloquial definition of socialist that encompasses the whole spectrum from socialism to communism.

In any case, there will always be confusion on this; communists consider "Socialism" as an intermediate stage on the road to Communism and the disappearance of the state.

I'm using it generally to encompass everyone.

I'm not sure whether communists consider socialism an intermediate step towards the final goal. The dictatorship of the proletariat didn't seem very socialist-esque to me.

The pipeline is bourgeois revolution => dictatorship of the proletariat => abolishing the state

at least iirc

 

[Freixel]

i was speaking on the jewry that came along, not jews themselves, seeing that the ussr also was one of the first nations to recognise israel, im not like these guys who say the revolution was jewish and killed a bunch of christians like these cuck-servatives.

but you should acknowledge that jews do have a specific nature that is seperate to whites, being that they are inherently materialist and greedy, the etymology of the common sur names of jews links back to the romans when thier names were heavily linked with theft and subversion and we see this today, now i do not denounce what jews have done but when you give jews too much power, they start to do jew things, which ultimately led to the fall of the ussr, post stalin in particular led to this.

Yes, of course I know that Jews are always a strange population and that they never fully assimilate into the nation-state that welcomes them. They are a sector of the population always inclined towards subversion, who always put their community interests above national interests, etc.

I'll have to read more about Jewishness in the post-Stalin USSR

 

[Freixel]

I'm not sure whether communists consider socialism an intermediate step towards the final goal. The dictatorship of the proletariat didn't seem very socialist-esque to me.

The pipeline is bourgeois revolution => dictatorship of the proletariat => abolishing the state

at least iirc

According to Lenin's vision, Socialism is an intermediate stage (Dictatorship of the Proletariat, that is, a socialist state) toward Communism.

Copypaste:

For Vladimir Lenin, socialism is the first phase (or lower stage) of Communism. It is the indispensable transitional period that arises after the conquest of power, where private ownership of the means of production is abolished and the dictatorship of the proletariat is established.

1. Characteristics of the Socialist Stage (Lower Phase) In this phase, society is still marked by the traces and structures of the old capitalist system. State control: The workers' state owns the industries and directs the economy. Distribution: Wealth is distributed according to each individual's contribution under the maxim: "He who does not work, neither shall he eat." Persistence of inequalities: Money, wages, and income differences still exist, so equality is still limited.

2. Transition to Communism (Higher Stage) To move from socialism to full communism, Lenin (drawing on Marx) argued that profound social and material transformations were necessary: Withering away of the State: As social classes and conflicts of interest disappear, the repressive apparatus of the State becomes unnecessary and "withers away." New distribution: The economy develops to such an extent that the guiding principle of communism is applied: "From each according to their ability, to each according to their needs." Overcoming work: Work ceases to be an imposition for survival and becomes a vital necessity of human beings.

In any case, there are several forms of socialism, and not all of them will have exactly the same characteristics when applied.

 

[tired as fuck]

According to Lenin's vision, Socialism is an intermediate stage (Dictatorship of the Proletariat, that is, a socialist state) toward Communism.



In any case, there are several forms of socialism, and not all of them will have exactly the same characteristics when applied.

sorry but how is point 1 socialist?

 

[Freixel]

sorry but how is point 1 socialist?

What do you understand by socialism?

What I copied explains it

 

[tired as fuck]

What do you understand by socialism?

enactment of social policies, welfare state policies.

 

[Freixel]

enactment of social policies, welfare state policies.

That sounds more like social democracy.

The -lightest- version of the left.

The hardest, most extreme left has always talked about nationalizing the major means of production and dictating the economy through the state.

 

[tired as fuck]

That sounds more like social democracy.

The -lightest- version of the left.

The hardest, most extreme left has always talked about nationalizing the major means of production and dictating the economy through the state.

I understand. I'm not very cultured on this topic for I do not like politics. But eventually I might have to dabble a bit on it