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This is inspired by my recent interaction with an old friend of mine - I know him for more than 10 years, pretty much since college. We live quite far from each other now, but still try to meet every 2 years or so, go camping, hunting and such.
He married a girl he was dating since his freshman year in college, so realistically speaking, he had almost no real experience dating anyone for the last 10+ years. Almost every time I've been talking to him lately, he mentioned NOT being completely happy with his marriage up to the level of being on a brink of a divorce. We never discussed this part much, but something tells me that starfish sex once a few weeks is the best he can get from his wife in this department.
The last time we talked a bit about Tinder and he mentioned something like "well, there must be lots of girls available on Tinder and it's probably easy to hook up there". I laughed, pulled up my phone and offered we would re-activate my profile and spend some time swiping just for fun. He didn't like one of my pics, but overall his initial perception was basically "cool, let's try it, your pics are certainly not too bad, let's see who we can quickly match with". This was an absolutely sincere thing as he apparently never tried Tinder himself before.
Well, folks, you probably know what happened later. We laughed and swiped right maybe a hundred girls, some of which even I would NOT date. A few hours later he asked me how many matches we had. I gave him the number (which you already know, of course). He didn't believe it. He asked the same thing the next morning. Well, boyos, you know that the number was the same lol. This was already his almost WTF moment and he got a little worried. He suggested I replace one of my pictures, so I did. Needless to say, despite hundreds of right swipes we made, by the end of the weekend we had 0 matches.
This experiment left him quite confused. I can absolutely say that he HAD NOT EXPECTED THIS. He was under some patriarchic impression that males rule the dating market and most males just need to whistle for several females to show up the same moment.
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In retrospect this made me thinking - there are probably thousands of males who are in their 30s or 40s now and who got married (or at least got in a committed relationship) very early in their lives, getting married to their high school sweethearts or literally one of the very first girls they had anything serious in their late teens - early 20s. Many of these males (up to a third by some estimates) are going to divorce (= divorce-raped) and eventually join the dating scene. While technically speaking they are NOT incels per se, they are hardly different in terms of their chances. Most of them will be very aware of dangers of betabuxxing, but they will realistically have little success in finding dates.
What are your thoughts about these folks? Most of them will probably be at least redpilled, but are they allies, rather enemies or just totally irrelevant?
My main point is that they probably think they don't need to even know what modern dating looks like, but this can change very quickly and they will have to face the harsh reality WE already know about. Can/should they be leveraged to our benefit?
He married a girl he was dating since his freshman year in college, so realistically speaking, he had almost no real experience dating anyone for the last 10+ years. Almost every time I've been talking to him lately, he mentioned NOT being completely happy with his marriage up to the level of being on a brink of a divorce. We never discussed this part much, but something tells me that starfish sex once a few weeks is the best he can get from his wife in this department.
The last time we talked a bit about Tinder and he mentioned something like "well, there must be lots of girls available on Tinder and it's probably easy to hook up there". I laughed, pulled up my phone and offered we would re-activate my profile and spend some time swiping just for fun. He didn't like one of my pics, but overall his initial perception was basically "cool, let's try it, your pics are certainly not too bad, let's see who we can quickly match with". This was an absolutely sincere thing as he apparently never tried Tinder himself before.
Well, folks, you probably know what happened later. We laughed and swiped right maybe a hundred girls, some of which even I would NOT date. A few hours later he asked me how many matches we had. I gave him the number (which you already know, of course). He didn't believe it. He asked the same thing the next morning. Well, boyos, you know that the number was the same lol. This was already his almost WTF moment and he got a little worried. He suggested I replace one of my pictures, so I did. Needless to say, despite hundreds of right swipes we made, by the end of the weekend we had 0 matches.
This experiment left him quite confused. I can absolutely say that he HAD NOT EXPECTED THIS. He was under some patriarchic impression that males rule the dating market and most males just need to whistle for several females to show up the same moment.
***
In retrospect this made me thinking - there are probably thousands of males who are in their 30s or 40s now and who got married (or at least got in a committed relationship) very early in their lives, getting married to their high school sweethearts or literally one of the very first girls they had anything serious in their late teens - early 20s. Many of these males (up to a third by some estimates) are going to divorce (= divorce-raped) and eventually join the dating scene. While technically speaking they are NOT incels per se, they are hardly different in terms of their chances. Most of them will be very aware of dangers of betabuxxing, but they will realistically have little success in finding dates.
What are your thoughts about these folks? Most of them will probably be at least redpilled, but are they allies, rather enemies or just totally irrelevant?
My main point is that they probably think they don't need to even know what modern dating looks like, but this can change very quickly and they will have to face the harsh reality WE already know about. Can/should they be leveraged to our benefit?