Looksmaxing, Careermaxing, then giving up?

[Reborn]

The most unbearable thing about this whole incel thing to me is the fact that I am not sure if I am really having zero chances. Sometimes I think when I looksmax and careermax and I am ripped, well dressed and driving an expensive car, living in a nice house etc. I might be able to escape inceldom.

On one hand I am too lazy to try since I do not really believe in my success. On the other hand I think if I really tried and found that it didn't work then at least I could finally give up for good and not look bad. You know what I mean?

So I am considering to looksmax and careermax and then if it fails just deal with the fact that I will be incel for life and move on.

Have you guys made any experiences with looksmaxing and careermaxing?

 

[ghostcell]

yep just keep doing exactly that, worst case u wake up in a nice house with money in ur bank and ur a bit older

 

[Mainländer]

If you think you can do it, then do it. I think the most important thing is evaluating your situation properly.

You're a 5/10 with money or the prospect of money and the biggest problem is your chin or ears? Definitely aim for looksmaxx.

You're 2/10, fucked up midface/eyes area and poor? It's fucking over, don't even bother.

 

[Templarcel421]

There is nothing wrong with lifemaxxing. Some people here will say "cope" or that you are wasting time, but it is a better alternative to becoming NEET and LDARing the rest of your life until you rope.

 

[maynarde]

Geez, the thing is, guys....

you only need ONE woman in life.

You have millions of chances. Go find her.

 

[Reborn]

I would say I am an old 3/10 fatcel. I believe I could be a 6/10 if I looksmaxed hard. Staceys here want an 8/10 though plus he needs to be rich which I am currently not so Staceys would be out of reach but I may find a 4/10 who is not a landwhale or something. I am just not sure if that is worth all the effort when I could just go easy and enjoy my lazy life.

 

[Mainländer]

There is nothing wrong with lifemaxxing. Some people here will say "cope" or that you are wasting time, but it is a better alternative to becoming NEET and LDARing the rest of your life until you rope.

Looksmaxxing and prostitutes are the two sole things your money should be going to concerning your inceldom. Forget about gym, therapist and shit like that.

 

[Reborn]

Looksmaxxing and prostitutes are the two sole things your money should be going to concerning your inceldom. Forget about gym, therapist and shit like that.

Why do you say forget about gym? Isn't that part of looksmaxing?

 

[RageAgainstTDL]

There is nothing wrong with lifemaxxing. Some people here will say "cope" or that you are wasting time, but it is a better alternative to becoming NEET and LDARing the rest of your life until you rope.

This. You are going to live and die anyway. The drive for sex is a strong one. Men have been trying to accomplish things to prove themselves to women as long as there have been men and women. Some people say this is why most revolutionary work men do happens before their early 30s. After that the drive dies down and we tend to be complacent.

There is no harm or shame in trying to harness that drive to become better. The culture is shifting so it may not be possible to use those accomplishments in the end to get a quality woman, but that doesn't mean it isn't worth trying.

At a bare minimum you will make your own life better and get to feel like you've done something with your life. For my part I've been through major surgeries and I've spent 10 years in university to get a high level degree and job. I've also dedicated myself to hobbies women say they find attractive.

I don't really regret any of it, because I can't think of any better way I could have lived my life. In retrospect, the only thing I might have done differently is giving up my hobbies for learning languages so I could escape the west, but it's too late for that, and I could have never anticipated the need back then.

Not all of us are cut out for LDAR. If you're someone with high intrinsic motivation, work hard and drive yourself. At least you will be proud of yourself at the end and society as a whole will treat you better.

 

[Reborn]

Not all of us are cut out for LDAR. If you're someone with high intrinsic motivation, work hard and drive yourself. At least you will be proud of yourself at the end and society as a whole will treat you better.

Yes but what if I put in a lot of energy and get nothing in return and in the end I come to the conclusion I would have been better off spending my life on the couch playing PS4 games?

 

[Templarcel421]

This. You are going to live and die anyway. The drive for sex is a strong one. Men have been trying to accomplish things to prove themselves to women as long as there have been men and women. Some people say this is why most revolutionary work men do happens before their early 30s. After that the drive dies down and we tend to be complacent.

There is no harm or shame in trying to harness that drive to become better. The culture is shifting so it may not be possible to use those accomplishments in the end to get a quality woman, but that doesn't mean it isn't worth trying.

At a bare minimum you will make your own life better and get to feel like you've done something with your life. For my part I've been through major surgeries and I've spent 10 years in university to get a high level degree and job. I've also dedicated myself to hobbies women say they find attractive.

I don't really regret any of it, because I can't think of any better way I could have lived my life. In retrospect, the only thing I might have done differently is giving up my hobbies for learning languages so I could escape the west, but it's too late for that, and I could have never anticipated the need back then.

Not all of us are cut out for LDAR. If you're someone with high intrinsic motivation, work hard and drive yourself. At least you will be proud of yourself at the end and society as a whole will treat you better.

High IQ post

 

[Mainländer]

Why do you say forget about gym? Isn't that part of looksmaxing?

It's not worth the effort and investment IMO. A slight change in the bones of your face has the potential of helping your looks more than years of hard work and dedication at the gym. But it's an option and does help somewhat. It was unfair of me to pair it with psychologists, which are basically money wasting, especially if psychoanalysis and especially if your only problem is being ugly.

 

[Reborn]

It's not worth the effort and investment IMO. A slight change in the bones of your fae have the potential of helping your looks more than years of hard work and dedication at the gym. But it's an option and does help somewhat. It was unfair of me to pair it with psychologists, which are 100% money wasting, especially if psychoanalysis and especially if your only problem is being ugly.

I absolutely agree on the psychologists. They will try to bluepill you which is impossible after you have been blackpilled.

 

[RageAgainstTDL]

Yes but what if I put in a lot of energy and get nothing in return and in the end I come to the conclusion I would have been better off spending my life on the couch playing PS4 games?

Personally I stopped playing video games when I was 15, because they felt utterly pointless to me. I am someone who prefers to spend my time in productive pursuits. Even if you chop off my dick that will still be true.

If you're someone who is happiest even as an adult playing video games, then keep playing video games.

If I had stayed playing video games all day, my quality of life would be much lower now than it was then. But for others the opposite might be true.

The ultimate goal of life is a sense of happiness, satisfaction, and fulfilment. I have always believed it is worth working toward whatever you think will provide that. If you fail, you can always go back to the couch and games. They will always be there. And there would never be any mandate against playing a few hours a week. Nothing you could ever do would be so consuming you would have to give up games completely.

I gave up games because I found them inefficient and pointless, not because I had to. Currently I work 4 days a week and if I wanted I could spend the other 3 days playing games morning to night. That is the liberty accomplishment potentially gives you.

When you are 80 years old, will you more likely regret the hours you didn't sit on a couch staring at a screen or will you more likely regret the fact that you never tried to do more? For me personally, I know the answer. I must keep trying. It's not really a choice. It's just how I'm wired. You will have to figure out your own wiring as well.

 

[Reborn]

Personally I stopped playing video games when I was 15, because they felt utterly pointless to me. I am someone who prefers to spend my time in productive pursuits. Even if you chop off my dick that will still be true.

If you're someone who is happiest even as an adult playing video games, then keep playing video games.

If I had stayed playing video games all day, my quality of life would be much lower now than it was then. But for others the opposite might be true.

The ultimate goal of life is a sense of happiness, satisfaction, and fulfilment. I have always believed it is worth working toward whatever you think will provide that. If you fail, you can always go back to the couch and games. They will always be there. And there would never be any mandate against playing a few hours a week. Nothing you could ever do would be so consuming you would have to give up games completely.

I gave up games because I found them inefficient and pointless, not because I had to. Currently I work 4 days a week and if I wanted I could spend the other 3 days playing games morning to night. That is the liberty accomplishment potentially gives you.

When you are 80 years old, will you more likely regret the hours you didn't sit on a couch staring at a screen or will you more likely regret the fact that you never tried to do more? For me personally, I know the answer. I must keep trying. It's not really a choice. It's just how I'm wired. You will have to figure out your own wiring as well.

You do have a point there...

 

[GeneticDysfunction]

There is nothing wrong with lifemaxxing. Some people here will say "cope" or that you are wasting time, but it is a better alternative to becoming NEET and LDARing the rest of your life until you rope.