Blackpill Liberty and Freedom is a false ideal

[Caesercel]

It assumes the existence of an abstract agent that has the capacity, in his own accord to fulfill the fundamental nature of his being, his soul. For liberty to be true we must assume the supernatural.

But science tells us that souls don't exist and free will is probably a sham. You are always bound to powers that were never in your control to begin with. You are no more free than the slaves who were brought to the Americas. Just better fed and in less pain.

The real Hiroshima Nagasaki blackpill is, there is no "you". But that's a bit too much to handle

 

[VitaminS]

100

 

[Med Anime]

You are always bound to powers that were never in your control to begin with.

true, "free will" is just the actions and thoughts that we have due to background causes and things that happened before.
all these causes are things that we never had any control over. we're supposed to go through this shit from the very beginning

 

[Copexodius Maximus]

It assumes the existence of an abstract agent that has the capacity, in his own accord to fulfill the fundamental nature of his being, his soul. For liberty to be true we must assume the supernatural.

But science tells us that souls don't exist and free will is probably a sham. You are always bound to powers that were never in your control to begin with. You are no more free than the slaves who were brought to the Americas. Just better fed and in less pain.

The real Hiroshima Nagasaki blackpill is, there is no "you". But that's a bit too much to handle

Buddhapilled.

 

[TheLastandtheFirst]

The real Hiroshima Nagasaki blackpill is, there is no "you". But that's a bit too much to handle

The real Supernova blackpill is that this pseudo-Buddhist “I’m so enlightened because I know there’s no such thing as an ego” is a coping mechanism for inferior egos

Just sour grapes for losers. “I may be a loser compared to you, but what if I told you that we both don’t exist and I’m better than you because I know that and you don’t”

The ego is literally all you are, lol.

Also, people who dogmatize massive unsubstantiated existential philosophical claims from an argument to authority via pop “science”, like Bill Nye level “science” may be the lowest of the low in terms of actual sophistication.

They will always slip in nonsense moralizing claims in their garbage worldview that they can’t substantiate or derive from their holy prophets

 

[Zogpilled]

Your freedom depends on how much money/connections and resources you have. As a normal person in the west you have false freedom. Someone like Taylor swift, Tom Brady , brad Pitt. People on that level have true freedom. Only used well known ppl for examples.

 

[subhuman]

Kant debunked this

 

[Old Ironsides]

Freedom isn't free.




over

 

[Yan Babayan]

But science tells us that souls don't exist and free will is probably a sham. You are always bound to powers that were never in your control to begin with. You are no more free than the slaves who were brought to the Americas. Just better fed and in less pain.

High IQ mod

there is no "you"

I don't understand. Even if you are predetermined by external factors, you still exist. There is still a "you"

 

[RandomGuy]

 

[erenyeager]

true, "free will" is just the actions and thoughts that we have due to background causes and things that happened before.
all these causes are things that we never had any control over. we're supposed to go through this shit from the very beginning

I reject that. In PATHS I am free it's the manual booklet for freedom

 

[based_meme]

It assumes the existence of an abstract agent that has the capacity, in his own accord to fulfill the fundamental nature of his being, his soul. For liberty to be true we must assume the supernatural.

False equivalence. Philosophical free will and political free will are different things. Don't conflate them, it's embarrassing.

 

[runforrest]

Free will is a fucking scam. Those who say it exists absolutely are just out-of-touch bluepilled Christianity NPCs who cannot comprehend the reality of this world.

 

[Caesercel]

Wow, I must've been really sleepy to have typed this

Just sour grapes for losers. “I may be a loser compared to you, but what if I told you that we both don’t exist and I’m better than you because I know that and you don’t”

This is actually 100% true. Another one is the nihilism, "we are all gonna die so nothing matters", cope. But sour grapes doesn't change the validity of these

The ego is literally all you are, lol.

Cope

, it's embarrassing.

Conflating argument of the unmoved mover with argument of the first cause is embarrassing

 

[based_meme]

Conflating argument of the unmoved mover with argument of the first cause is embarrassing

Those two are the same thing. I linked it for your convenience, even though it takes literally five seconds to search for yourself. It seems that you didn't even bother to click and read. JFL. Something about a horse and water I guess.

 

[Caesercel]

It takes literally five seconds to search for yourself.

The irony

 

[based_meme]

The irony

You're too proud and arrogant to educate yourself on something you're ignorant of. I'm not going to stop you from saying wrong things, but I will remind you that they're wrong. You do you.

 

[Caesercel]

You're too proud and arrogant

Guilty as charged. But that has nothing to do with you being absolutely wrong in this case

 

[based_meme]

Guilty as charged. But that has nothing to do with you being absolutely wrong in this case

Look bro, I'm not going to do the work for you. Arguments for liberty and freedom are political. Those arguments aren't concerned with the nature of reality, but with the rights and duties of citizens. It's apples and oranges.

 

[Caesercel]

Look bro, I'm not going to do the work for you. Arguments for liberty and freedom are political. Those arguments aren't concerned with the nature of reality, but with the rights and duties of citizens. It's apples and oranges.

I was talking about the prime mover thing. You may have a point on the liberty one. But it still irks me how liberals think their doctrines have some fundamental metaphysical truth to them.

 

[based_meme]

I was talking about the prime mover thing.

Aristotle's concept of the prime mover is, by definition, the first cause. If any cause has a preceding cause, then it is not the first cause. The first cause, then, is exempt from a cause itself, hence the name. Aquinas takes this concept and simply highlights the conclusion that necessarily follows from it to solve the logical problem of infinite regress. This is highly relevant to discussions of free will, since many of the arguments hinge on causality.

 

[Gott _mit _uns94]

fr33d0m and democracy is an Illusion created by the j00s and fr33m@s0n to fool the population into beliving they are free while in reality they are not.

 

[LeFrenchCel]

We have the free will to do what we want to do.

No i'm jk we're raped

 

[Robespierre]

"You" are your body. Your decision-making mechanism works in a certain way, your brain is a physical object that has a certain architecture through which it functions. If you want to "decide" in isolation from your brain, that's some kind of schizotericism.

 

[Asgard]

Fatalism.

 

[Michael W. Ford]

But science tells us

 

[Retardinator]

Nigga took the full Schopenhauer nihilismpill

 

[soul contre tous]

It assumes the existence of an abstract agent that has the capacity, in his own accord to fulfill the fundamental nature of his being, his soul. For liberty to be true we must assume the supernatural.

But science tells us that souls don't exist and free will is probably a sham. You are always bound to powers that were never in your control to begin with. You are no more free than the slaves who were brought to the Americas. Just better fed and in less pain.

The real Hiroshima Nagasaki blackpill is, there is no "you". But that's a bit too much to handle

You share a lot of my worldview with me, brother. It's almost scary, like we share the same mind or smth.
Are you buddhist/pessimist?

 

[Man]

DNR when you were typing this your oneitis was getting knotted by a dog

Spoiler

who cares if free will is an illusion