Libertarianism Is Bad

[four1298]

Libertarians are bad because they have a "non aggression principle" that means rape is wrong. They also oppose war on drugs which means police will have more time on their hands to go after rapists and jails and prisons will have more space to house them. Every man who supports rape legalization should support the war on drugs. On top of that New Hampshire, which has a lot of libertarians, was celebrated by a right-to-die organization for supporting euthanasia. In the past, the Libertarian Party Platform supported abortion IIRC. It's also problematic that libertarian Rand Paul called illegals "undocumented citizens." Libertarian Thomas Massie opposed Trump's walls. I think illegal immigrants make a portion of inmates, so it needs to be considered a serious crime.

Despite this, we should give credit where is due. They seem to have a lot of articles against the sex offender registry. I only read the interview with the president of Women Against Registry who's a rape victim. This is off topic, but her rapist may spend his entire life in prison despite only raping once. Society is too tough on rapists. Rapists should be treated better by society.

Also unrelated to rape, I also like that libertarian Milton Friedman supported prostitution legalization and a negative income tax. I also like that Walter Block supports voluntary slavery. Slavery should be brought back.

We shouldn't vote for them though because they can't win and ending the war on drugs will hurt rapists. We should either vote for Republicans who want to put drug users and immigrants in prisons and jails and Democrats that support defunding the police and basic income. The police arrest rapists.

It's not just that the war on drugs causes prison overcrowding. It also makes the idea of prison abolition more attractive to normies. The more innocent people are in jail, the more they'll support abolition, which will benefit rapists. Even if that's not the case, misery loves company. If rapists should suffer in prison, so should everyone else. I do support the rights of those falsely accused of rape and other crimes because it might mean actual rapists get away with their crimes.

 

[VλREN]

I don’t care about politics

 

[VλREN]

libertarians

 

[nazianime]

Libertarians are bad because they have a "non aggression principle" that means rape is wrong

Women are property and i will not let you use my property without permission.

 

[AtrociousCitizen]

Libertarians care more about ideology than reality.

 

[Oogger]

This is just you coping and not actually debunking libertarianism.
The current world order is statist as it comes.
Liberty of men means liberty for incels=incel liberation

 

[Oogger]

Do you want uk style incel cockblocking or true liberation where incels can start any business they want and retake chunks of society?

 

[Oogger]

Mind you incels are at danger of being agressed much more than normiegroids are by incels, the NAP helps incels while it demolishes the privileges of foids granted by "gender equality".

 

[four1298]

Do you want uk style incel cockblocking or true liberation where incels can start any business they want and retake chunks of society?

How does the UK cockblock incels?

 

[four1298]

Women are property and i will not let you use my property without permission.
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[Oogger]

How does the UK cockblock incels

Incels dont have free speech in the uk.
The uk violates the natural right(NAP) of incels everyday

 

[Glassness]

Cringe ideology i genuinely prefer communism

 

[endoftheskies]

Libertarians are bad because they have a "non aggression principle" that means rape is wrong. They also oppose war on drugs which means police will have more time on their hands to go after rapists and jails and prisons will have more space to house them. Every man who supports rape legalization should support the war on drugs. On top of that New Hampshire, which has a lot of libertarians, was celebrated by a right-to-die organization for supporting euthanasia. In the past, the Libertarian Party Platform supported abortion IIRC. It's also problematic that libertarian Rand Paul called illegals "undocumented citizens." Libertarian Thomas Massie opposed Trump's walls. I think illegal immigrants make a portion of inmates, so it needs to be considered a serious crime.

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Despite this, we should give credit where is due. They seem to have a lot of articles against the sex offender registry. I only read the interview with the president of Women Against Registry who's a rape victim. This is off topic, but her rapist may spend his entire life in prison despite only raping once. Society is too tough on rapists. Rapists should be treated better by society.

Also unrelated to rape, I also like that libertarian Milton Friedman supported prostitution legalization and a negative income tax. I also like that Walter Block supports voluntary slavery. Slavery should be brought back.

We shouldn't vote for them though because they can't win and ending the war on drugs will hurt rapists. We should either vote for Republicans who want to put drug users and immigrants in prisons and jails and Democrats that support defunding the police and basic income. The police arrest rapists.

It's not just that the war on drugs causes prison overcrowding. It also makes the idea of prison abolition more attractive to normies. The more innocent people are in jail, the more they'll support abolition, which will benefit rapists. Even if that's not the case, misery loves company. If rapists should suffer in prison, so should everyone else. I do support the rights of those falsely accused of rape and other crimes because it might mean actual rapists get away with their crimes.

I like libertarianism, because then society won't go after me, and everything will based on individualism. i also don't want an state to oppress me and do what i want lmao.

 

[Moth]

Water is wet.

 

[readingcel]

Incels dont have free speech in the uk.
The uk violates the natural right(NAP) of incels everyday

The retard that you are, you cannot even follow the thin thread connecting your stream-of-consciousness posts. You opposed cockblocking against true liberation and called the latter being a capitalist. You were asked how the UK cockblocks incels, which the UK does not according to your dichotomy. Now you refer to cockblocking as what it actually means etymologically in your response, when the dichotomy itself implies that cockblocking is of an economic nature. Do you think UK's speech laws affect our economic participation as capital owners?

There is no redemption of incels beyond technological and/or gene modification, which can only be achieved and given to most incels through a global rational social plan of production and distribution.

 

[Juarez]

Perhaps there is more than one issue in politics than just rape legislation? I personally would call myself a libertarian and it reflects my general view on society - well fine, no pussy, just leave me alone then. The government has a habit of focusing on some greatest good, which in reality means the greatest safety and comfort for holes. I just want to live out my life without socialist bullshit, I dont care about the fate of society, just leave me the fuck alone.

 

[Oogger]

The retard that you are, you cannot even follow the thin thread connecting your stream-of-consciousness posts. You opposed cockblocking against true liberation and called the latter being a capitalist. You were asked how the UK cockblocks incels, which the UK does not according to your dichotomy. Now you refer to cockblocking as what it actually means etymologically in your response, when the dichotomy itself implies that cockblocking is of an economic nature. Do you think UK's speech laws affect our economic participation as capital owners?

There is no redemption of incels beyond technological and/or gene modification, which can only be achieved and given to most incels through a global rational social plan of production and distribution

>Do you think UKs speech laws affect economic participation.
Uh yeah? Its known people have gotten fired over hate speech, are u stupid?

 

[readingcel]

>Do you think UKs speech laws affect economic participation.
Uh yeah? Its known people have gotten fired over hate speech, are u stupid?

Again, retardation. You first oppose "cockblocking" in a non-etymological sense with true liberation. With the latter you associate, verbatim "owning a business". Then a person asks you how the UK actualizes the former. You then give a response that uses the former in an etymological sense now.

Another person comes, and asks you how etymological cockblocking is associated with, again verbatim, "owning a business", and then you say incels get fired due to speech laws.

Do you see the conceptual asymmetry here? You have changed the signification (attributed by you) of true liberation to "being employed".

Nobody would disagree with the fact that speech laws have punishments and such, and that it subsumes the employment of a person under a private or governmental business. It might even be the case that a person can be rendered null of owning a business, insofar as you get imprisoned or something due to the said laws. My own language might have veiled my own affirmation of that, but what bothers me is the conceptual changes.

to sum it up and prolong the convo, here are two implications that I do not understand: (and this is the crux of your retardation) How do you jump from employment to being an employer and back? Why is true liberation even owning a business?

 

[Oogger]

Again, retardation. You first oppose "cockblocking" in a non-etymological sense with true liberation. With the latter you associate, verbatim "owning a business". Then a person asks you how the UK actualizes the former. You then give a response that uses the former in an etymological sense now.

Another person comes, and asks you how etymological cockblocking is associated with, again verbatim, "owning a business", and then you say incels get fired due to speech laws.

Do you see the conceptual asymmetry here? You have changed the signification (attributed by you) of true liberation to "being employed".

Nobody would disagree with the fact that speech laws have punishments and such, and that it subsumes the employment of a person under a private or governmental business. It might even be the case that a person can be rendered null of owning a business, insofar as you get imprisoned or something due to the said laws. My own language might have veiled my own affirmation of that, but what bothers me is the conceptual changes.

to sum it up and prolong the convo, here are two implications that I do not understand: (and this is the crux of your retardation) How do you jump from employment to being an employer and back? Why is true liberation even owning a business?

Tldr

 

[Oogger]

You insult me then expect me to give u the time of day lmfao
Fuck you faggot @readingcel

 

[Oogger]

The uks regulatory system is made in such way that excess males dont have any chance to rise the ladder economically.
Incels can go to jail for simple mean words, and their business or employment destroyed by "mean words".
Statism is what libtards use to attack sensitive young men.
Without a regulatory system+the whole woke funding that the UK state does it would leave the power into the hands of majority/ majority of men are sub8.

 

[Oogger]

The regulatory system makes it so already The existing elite can just bribe for more power, while with the money they use it to push agaisnt leftover males.
They are scared of revolution, theres a reason why they want to restore military service.

 

[Oogger]

Tell me how ur system will stop leftover men to die off @readingcel, I feel like it would just send men to die off for failed revolutions, isnt it? Not quite that different from what the current order wants.

 

[readingcel]

Tell me how ur system will stop leftover men to die off @readingcel, I feel like it would just send men to die off for failed revolutions, isnt it? Not quite that different from what the current order wants.

Retard cant even collect his thoughts under one post lmao. Alas, you are indeed giving me your time as is obvious from the binge posting.

In any case, given that you cannot answer my questions, I shall of course, in response, be a gentleman and respond to yours. What do you mean by leftover, exactly? Incels? The reverse army of labour?

Not quite that different from what the current order wants.

Do you legitimately think a class society that has an economic order which bases its production on profit maximization, and its distribution on the random laws of the market, engaged in generalized commodity production under the form of a national state desires the same thing as a, verbatim repeated, global rational social plan of production and distribution grounded on a post-class society and useful articles? Or are you making this equivalence between the current state of things and the DoTP, ie. the transitional phase?

 

[Oogger]

Retard cant even collect his thoughts under one post lmao. Alas, you are indeed giving me your time as is obvious from the binge posting.

In any case, given that you cannot answer my questions, I shall of course, in response, be a gentleman and respond to yours. What do you mean by leftover, exactly? Incels? The reverse army of labour?


Do you legitimately think a class society that has an economic order which bases its production on profit maximization, and its distribution on the random laws of the market, engaged in generalized commodity production under the form of a national state desires the same thing as a, verbatim repeated, global rational social plan of production and distribution grounded on a post-class society and useful articles? Or are you making this equivalence between the current state of things and the DoTP, ie. the transitional phase?

Ur retarded if u think im starting a serious discussion on inkwells.is+I mostly played devils advocate(im no libertarian) but still the main enemy of uk incels is clearly the UK govt.

 

[readingcel]

Ur retarded if u think im starting a serious discussion on inkwells.is+I mostly played devils advocate(im no libertarian) but still the main enemy of uk incels is clearly the UK govt.

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