You mistook this place for something else, it has never been a movement most of us are just a bunch of fugly virgin losers like myself who wanted a safe haven to talk about blackpilled thoughts and events.
What has the incel movement achieved? because for the bluepilled normies we appear as psychopathic mass shooters and rapists and you're helping to perpetuate this idea by claiming we're a movement.
Even if you didn't and successfully seperated it, when you say the "incel movement" you're not helping you're just merging us all into one group.
Reality is nothing more than this, as far as fakecels excluded and incels concerned: we're a group of diverse incels each one having his own struggles, this is why I see often drama arising and lots of conflict within the forum, most of which happens between incel veterans of the forum, most of us clash with eachother for having different copes, our struggles aren't equal, they're just related.
No one here is going on his expense to help us all, there will be no movement and no organization or anything at all when most of the world antagonizes you and your view of life, there is truly no salvation.