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Inceljoe
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Stumpled onto a PUA forum, started reading some recent threads, how about this, guys?
When even the coping PUAs admit its bad, its really, REALLY BAD
We need religion back, this just doesnt fucking work, this is about to COME CRASHING DOWN.
Its OVER for average men now, cold approach dont work good no more, and on tinder only the top 10% racks up everything.
The blackpillers seem to have it right, its fucking over if ure not a Chad in todays market thanks to social media.
sieving through the throngs of burnt out, the blue haired, the fat, the duckfaces, all just in the hope to meet a somewhat normal, chilled girl who you might be able to have a half-decent conversation with, is soul destroying. I'm in a relatively small town, but with two big cities nearby, so have a large sample size at 50ks, and it feels just like wading through garbage pile looking for some bit of trash, that with a bit of work, might be salvageable.
It saddens the shit out of me, that this is what passes for the 'mating-game' for young people now. Only 7 years or so ago, a guy could get himself together, put a nice shirt on, hit up a few bars and chat and be social & get good results, if he worked at the skillset. Now, that age all seems gone. The 7s you approach at the bar have a never ending stack of validation, dates, and occasional sports-fucks off some Chad 9 dude, if she catches him at the right time.
It's insane how much seems to have changed at such a rapid pace.
The truth is that this was over at least 3 years ago, although much was still location dependent on the degree of how bad it was. Something was possible online in the novel stages of the beginning of this decade, and basically the first 2 years of real smartphone introduction and more ubiquitous usage (2012-13), but after 2014, pandora's box was obvious and real. I've talked about this before but that era (smartphone introduction), also coincided with a worldwide decline in the "paradise" destinations everyone used to talk about here, which were goldmines prior.
The only thing that would ever work would be barriers to entry approaches. Most of these tend to devolve towards sugar type "dating" which incidentally where the world was going anyway, or continues to go. Anything online won't be wholesome or organic for these reasons, and is just a diversion for all parties. I would argue or guess it's mostly that way even in the best locations (Russia, for example).
Maybe it's more appropriate to talk about the age gap stuff in a different thread, but recently a family member said something like "Younger women are only going to be interested in your money" ... as if all women aren't going to be equally interested in your money. It's amusing to me how uncritically this is thought out by the common person. They have no sense of how much more demanding older or aging women are, itself the biggest paradox in the screwed up "dating" systems of the advanced countries, at this point.
The best argument for MGTOW is a five-minute conversation with the average woman.
That said, things have gotten exponentially worse over the last decade. When I first started my dating life around 19 or 20 years old, I distinctly remember having constant crushes on classmates, women in my social circle, and experiencing genuine attraction and admiration for them. Now I feel absolutely nothing around 99% of women, including those that probably have hundreds or thousands of men drooling over them on the internet, and meet a woman I'm genuinely interested in maybe once or, at most, twice per year. None of them are on Tinder or the internet, which (at least in my city) is indistinguishable from the site for the local zoo.
What are your options, the current family court model where they throw guys in prison for the crime of losing their jobs? This is not a joke, this happens every day in the "Land of the Free". The money has to come from somewhere, someone at some point has to make some kind of sacrifice and have something less than ideal in their life. If you watch the old traditional sermons, they involve telling both husband and wife what they were going to have to sacrifice. If you spend 50 years "Taking" from men, of course women won't want most of them, they've got nothing left to give, they're broken men.
You're also falling into the trap of assuming male and female desire are the same, and they'e not. Just eliminating all the endless take aways and programs that impoverish so many men in so many subtle ways and (by general female standards) mens have already become more physically attractive, in ways that our brains just don't do. Restore the social status men had 50 years ago before "Hatening" began and every stand up guy becomes D1 athlete/local musician famous by comparison to current standards.
Every son you have in modern times starts the race hobbled, the equivalent of acid thrown in his face before he was born. The only reason it's not more pronounced is because it's so universal, so we have nothing left to compare it to. Some of the smartphone era is people being overloaded by choice, but an awful lot of it men having (voluntaily!) reduced themselves to serfdom, and what would woman would choose to settle down with a serf when they can have a knight and the serf still has o till their land?
Women today in the west are awful, its insane how crushed my heart has become because of them, im really really fucking sad right not, these women got no heart.
When even the coping PUAs admit its bad, its really, REALLY BAD
