We had a German news article in
"der Standard".
Interestingly, there is a picture of real dolls in the article, even though those are not mentioned.
They mentioned Elliot, pardon me, "saint Elliot", lol, Minassian, and Scott Beierle. They describe us as a hate group who worship our violent heroes. They say that we are entitled, frustrated hetero men with obscure theories for our misery. We believe that women exclusively date "alpha men" with muscular bodies and masculine faces, 80/20 - we do believe that. We describe women merely as femoids kek.
The author sees a connection between us and a random thot killing refugee
whom I made a thread about.
[RageFuel]:
The author also cited two experts.
Andreas Hechler, assistant in scientific labour and specialist in youth employment, antifeminism and the far right. What a cuck lol. He is supportive about the idea of self improvement and support groups, but he warns about us becoming radical. In his opinion, we (who is "we", btw, Mr. Cuck?) must communicate to young boys when they are children that they are not entitled to sex with anyone, noone has the right to have sex and that boys must learn from a young age to deal with frustration.
Ahh, indoctrination is your solution, I see. Cuck. If you grew up in Germany and are blackpilled, you would know that the emasculation and subjugation of boys already starts in Kindergarten (preschool). He wants boys in their most vulnerable stage of development to be dehumanized even more.
Then there is also Irish communication scientist Debbie Ging who thinks our philosophy is just a "pseudo philosophy". She calls out to the readers to fight against us because we enforce structures of patriarchy and are against feminism.
Why am I not surprised? The only people who were cited in this article were experts (lol
) who are biased against us.
To non Krautcels: I will also tell you about the comment section later if you want to know what the readers think. But I gotta go now. See ya, boyos
(((experts)))
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Here's the Google translated version, boyos:
MISOGYNY
"Incels": right to sex as a radical ideology
"Incels" are involuntarily abstemious - and therefore hate women. The network phenomenon makes a necessary rethinking in the prevention of violence clear
Brigitte Theißl
December 2, 2018, 10:00
2,366 postings
Incels are convinced: For sex women only want "alpha-men", muscular and with especially masculine facial features.
Photo: Reuters / ALY SONG
At 2:30 pm on November 2, Scott Beierle entered a yoga studio in Tallahassee, Florida. The 40-year-old pretended to be a customer of the studio, marched into one of the training rooms and pulled a gun out of his pocket. Without warning, he began to shoot at the students, he killed two women on the spot, he seriously injured four other people. If some people did not oppose the assassin - a student grabbed a vacuum cleaner and a broom and hit him - Beierle would probably have killed even more people.
Attacks like this happen almost daily in the US, the perpetrators are almost exclusively men. In the case of Scott Beierle, US media reported videos he posted on Youtube in 2014. In it, he spread racist, homophobic and misogynist ideas, repeatedly complaining about rejection by women. One of the videos featured the name Elliot Rodger. Beierle likened his younger self to the mass murderer who killed six people and wounded another 13 in Isla Vista, California, in 2014. Rodger presented his motive in a 141-page "Manifesto": He wanted revenge on women who had denied him sex, the "perfect gentleman" all his life, the 22-year-old fantasized of concentration camps, in which he wanted to watch women enjoy dying. Like Scott Beierle, he killed himself before the police overwhelmed him.
Saint Elliot
In parts of the Incel community, Rodger is hailed as a hero to this day - on the net circulate pictures in which he is seen with halo. Elliot Rodger, patron saint of Incels. "Incel" stands for "involuntary celibate", involuntarily abstaining, who suffer from having no sex, no love affair. In their radical form, it is hetero-men who drive self-hatred and irrepressible hatred of women, and who have put together a world of obscure theories, Debbie Ging explains. The Irish communications scientist researches male rights movements and hatred on the Net and has also examined the gender images of the Incels.
It is an online phenomenon whose genesis is located in the US and Canada, but has now spread throughout the English-speaking world and beyond. "Incels are based on half-baked theories of evolutionary psychology, women would always marry up and therefore prefer 'alpha-men', with 'beta-men' they just intervened to pay their bills," says Ging in STANDARD. Interview. Among other things, Incels define genetically what defines an alpha male: so-called chads are muscular and have especially male facial features - and contrary to "normies" are sought by women as sexual partners. The opposite of the Chads is called Stacey, she is the object of male lust and is a long-haired, blonde woman with "
Meeting point Hassforum
Reddit banished a community of around 40,000 members last year, where Incels exchanged rape fantasies and described women as "femoids." If a forum closes, the Incels find themselves together elsewhere. The hatred of women links them to other groups of the "manosphere": anti-feminist masculine people who lament the supposed loss of white male domination. "Incels, among other things, blame physical inefficiencies for their sexual failures - never their misogynistic attitudes towards women," says communication scientist Ging.
When Incel was in April this year, another assassin to recognize: the 25 -year-old Alek Minassian drove in Toronto in a truck in a crowd, he killed ten people and injured another 16 - mostly women. "The Incel Rebellion has already begun! We want to overthrow all the Chads and Stacies!", He posted on Facebook. A police officer was able to overpower Minassian a few minutes after the amok, according to his lawyer, the trial will begin in ten to 15 months.
Alek Minassian is also celebrated in the radical Incel scene, says Andreas Hechler. Hechler is a research associate and educational officer at the Dissens Institute in Berlin and specializes in boys' work, anti-feminism and extreme rights. "Minassian is revered for bringing the concerns of Incels to the attention of the general public," says Hechler. In the spring, the media worldwide reported on the Amokfahrt and the hateful and violent world of the Incels. The radical core is only a sub-scene within the Incels, emphasizes the educator.
Solidarity instead of human hatred
The term was coined by a Canadian student who founded "Alana's Involuntary Celibacy Project" in the 1990s, running a simple website and mailing list. Shy people, queer people and heterosexuals, frustrated and optimists gathered there, Alana lost interest and handed the page over to another person. It was not until years later that she learned of the radicalization of the Incels by chance, as she told in interviews. To exchange in forums, to support each other - actually a good thing, says Andreas Hechler.
In Germany, for example, there is the "Absolute Beginner Treff", a forum for "people who could involuntarily make little or no relationship experiences", it is managed by a moderator team and designed accordingly harmless. It becomes dangerous where people blame others for their frustration and collide in a closed, unmoderated room. "In such forums, heterosexual men support each other in their misogyny world view, which can lead to rapid radicalization," says Hechler.
Mass phenomenon Relationship violence
Even if there have been no attacks in German-speaking countries committed by self-proclaimed Incels - similar patterns and motifs can be found here as well. For example, 17-year-old Tim Kretschmer killed 15 people in Winnenden in 2009, eleven of the twelve victims in his school were girls and women. Also, femicide and killing attempts in relationships are often preceded by rejection in the form of separation. A circumstance that can be interpreted as an assignment to educators, especially in boys' work. "Boys have to learn to deal with frustration from an early age and we have to convey the message that there is no right to sex with anyone," says Hechler. Empathy, communication, learning to relate to oneself and others - content that was part of every curriculum. So far, however, politics and science have been insufficiently responsive to the phenomenon, says Hechler. A monitoring of specific forms of hatred in the net against women is lacking. Preventive work is very incomplete in Germany and Austria.
"Men who think they have a claim to sex, and get angry if they do not get it, are nothing new, they've just found a pseudo-philosophy to cling to," says communication scientist Debbie Ging. "If we do not fully combat hatred of women, anti-feminism and patriarchal structures, the phenomenon will not disappear either." (Brigitte Theißl, 2.12.2018)
