And then patting themselves on their backs for being extremely low IQ. 
Y'all cucks know who you are.
Y'all cucks know who you are.Jfl at the neckbeards trying to disprove God by jumping to inherently illogical conclusions
Setting aside the logical arguments, youre retarded as an incel if you believe there is a just god and he gives a shit about you.
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People who think god doesn’t exist because pain exists don’t realize that a world of only happiness is unrealistic and honestly impossible
I'm neutral on this debate (not convinced of atheism or any particular religion) but the idea behind the epicurean paradox is that if achieving this is "impossible" for god then he is not all powerful
I still don't know if I believe in god or not. All my life experiences tell me he doesn't exist except one.
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God is a sadistic cunt & no paki muzzi you ain't getting any puzzy even after blowing yourself after jihad maxing .
We live in a world where women have rights and a man in the sky is far fetched?
Notice how whenever there's someone who believes in God people shit on him. Humans have this shitty crab in a bucket mentality thats fucking hilarious.
Notice how whenever there's someone who believes in God people shit on him. Humans have this shitty crab in a bucket mentality thats fucking hilarious.
What if you believe in a god but he doesnt give a shit about us
Does it really matter in the end? You are still and incel, and will remain so until the end of time.
Believing in a sadistic prick god is atleast more reasonable than believing in a just one.
Only stupid people believe God is some kind of white man sitting on a cloud, or a sentient being. God by definition is all powerful, all knowing and all present, it’s the source of everything. Humans can never understand God the same way ants can never understand humans.
There must be a god, nothing just comes to existence out of nowhere. Even atheists believe in the big bang, they are just too dependent on science to start thinking beyond our physical universe, that is what philosophy is for
God is not good or bad. God is simply the power which created this world for a reason we’ll never know, just like ants will never grasp the concept of computers or cars.
There must be a god, nothing just comes to existence out of nowhere. Even atheists believe in the big bang, they are just too dependent on science to start thinking beyond our physical universe, that is what philosophy is for
God is not good or bad. God is simply the power which created this world for a reason we’ll never know, just like ants will never grasp the concept of computers or cars.
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God can achieve it but nonetheless he shouldn’t. He can make a universe where 1+1=3 but there’s a reason why he doesn’t. The universe has to have things work together logically.
I used to be one of those fedora tipper cucks.And then patting themselves on their backs for being extremely low IQ.
Imagine a curry neckbeard JFL
do you belive jesus christ is the son of godAnd then patting themselves on their backs for being extremely low IQ.
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You are so right
Some autists in another thread saying if God is real he is evil/doesn't love for this reason. You can love someone without deleting every inconvenience out of their life. And any problem that is fixed will put another problem in the spotlight.
Idk about God but the forms of happiness humans experience in the mundane world is only what it is bcos uncomfortable sensations like pain, anxiety, discomfort, fear and similar sensations occur
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Infinite iq
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LMAO simple logic overload stung your peanut sized sandnigger brain huh? Aww boohoo.
A world with only "happiness" is not unrealistic.God is all powerful so "nothing"(i am talking about strength here) impedes him in creating a world with only happiness.We Christrians believe that we will be eternally happy with god in heaven after judgement.Attention that we will only be happy because god is there.We christians believe that god has everything that is good and everything that will make man happy so we want to be with god for only god can satisfy man.Anything that isn't god is imperfect and consequently won't bring full happiness to man.
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We have to have the ability to do evil. Without free will we don’t have freedom. If we only do good deeds, we’re just puppets without free will and thus don’t have freedom. And thus, evil is going to exist if we have free will. We also can’t live in a world without pain and suffering and cancer. If we’re going to allow evil deeds to happen, we have to nothing to lose and might as well allow pain and suffering. Pain and suffering prevents laziness, which only should what you should do in heaven. On earth we’re supposed to learn how to be hard working and learn how to be strong, and without pain and cancer that won’t happen. If you wanna enjoy heaven and be lazy up there, you’ll enjoy it more through the struggle through life
having the ability to do evil doesn't mean evil has to be done.God has the "ability" to do evil.But he isn't going to use his strength for evil since he is eternally good.Most theologians talk a great deal about how in heaven we shall see god as god.This is important because when we see god as god we will finally be able to understand why god made everything in the way that he did.Our whys are finally going to be answered. Once everything gets answered we shall never doubt much less desire to do evil.For then we shall know everything that needs to be known.Nothing else will change our minds because nothing else can.On earth we are not supposed to do "work".If that was the case then god would never have allowed a single cripple into existence.What god wants is us to obey his will.God doesn't need our strength,our opinion our anything.he doesn't need anything to complement his existence.He is god.he doesn't need us.what god wants is for us to obey his will and nothing more.
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Nobody ever taught you how to use blankspace after a completed sentence? JFL at reading that, gave me a slight headache and that's not even counting the content itself.
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Basically yeah, although I must add that there are tons of sand gentlemen who transcend the sandnigger label, just like there are tons of blacks who aren't niggers. It's all to do with personality and willingness to override base nature. I won't associate with many kinds of stereotypical nordic faggots, so why would I not offer the same benefit of the doubt to my brothers from other mothers? Fuck that..
Yeah sandniggers are kinda the lowest of the low, they are aggressive and overcompensating copers without anything to back it up, ngl. Their religiousity is off the charts.
Curries are still sandniggers in a sense, or the closest thing to it atleast. I thought he was a flying carpet paki though, tbh. Sorry for the confusion.
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No god does want us to work hard. Wtf. Also evil will inevitably happen if evil is possible. And like I said without free will we can’t be free
I come from a religious family but never believed in god. I knew it was all made up lie to control people, to make them fear things so that they follow certain rules. I couldnt understand how grown ass men still believe in such a fairy tale and never had interest. For me religion was and still is a complete waste of time.
Humans think they are special and that for them there is a special place after death. This is the result of a complex brain that is able to imagine things. It is also a cope for incels who believe that bad people will be punished after death and good humans like them not.
The truth is humans are not special. We will face the same fate that every single other organism faced. Also there are so many thibgs that dont make sense for example what about all the human ancestors who didnt know about god or what about the human species beside Homo Sapiens. Its just a fairy tale.
People who believe in religion either cope or ignore science and logic and see the content of their religious books as facts. Its ridiculous.
Humans think they are special and that for them there is a special place after death. This is the result of a complex brain that is able to imagine things. It is also a cope for incels who believe that bad people will be punished after death and good humans like them not.
The truth is humans are not special. We will face the same fate that every single other organism faced. Also there are so many thibgs that dont make sense for example what about all the human ancestors who didnt know about god or what about the human species beside Homo Sapiens. Its just a fairy tale.
People who believe in religion either cope or ignore science and logic and see the content of their religious books as facts. Its ridiculous.
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The anti religion threads tend to read like schizo ramblings jfl
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they tend to read like nothing because didn’t read
actually its the religious retards who are illogical, what proof is there that god exists? JFL at believing in something which has zero evidence, why not believe in unicorns and fairies, i mean after all you can't prove that unicorns and fairies DON'T exist.
The burden of proof is on the person claiming something to be true, only when there is proof can something be considered to be a "theory". Otherwise, it's just a hypothesis.
The burden of proof is on the person claiming something to be true, only when there is proof can something be considered to be a "theory". Otherwise, it's just a hypothesis.
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And the pro-religion ones don't? Just prove a negative theory in action.
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View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vgx16NnMdOQ
All things good or bad come from God, for what reason i cannot always answer.
We been over this, i was hoping you learned something from last time. Atheists don't have any evidence either, they ironically blindly believe God doesn't exist himself and act as if they cannot be wrong(as proof by you).
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Then the question you have to ask is why would God create us (or other animals for that matter) if suffering is an intrinsic part of existence? What does it accomplish? The only thing we've been granted is a prison in which we characterize the reduction of pain as pleasure and happiness.
When I look at the world around me, I don't get the intuition that any of this is "better than nothing". If we're talking about ontological arguments, I'd say that the very act of creation is flawed, as is everything about our existence. I don't believe that the hollow and finite nature of our world is evidence against the existence of a creator, it's only proof that said creator is sadistic and similarly flawed.
God designed the world as a test though
They don't need to do that to get pussy, hence their birthrate and getting jb whites
Because the world is a test for humans to see who will submit to God and enjoin good in the face of evil. God says clearly that even if one believes or not, they will suffer in the world as a means of testing their character and convictions.
A lot of the evil in this world is of atheists' own doing anyways, like usury, whoredom, and wars, because they worship money.
There's a reason SA has a lower crime rate than the USA, UK, France, and Canada. Islam is the solution.
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you have never read aquinas 5 ways,much less read thorough expositions on it, and you most likely never even heard of the other million arguments given to prove god existence.You can say you do not believe in god,but don't come with the no "evidence" card.
The fact that humans have an innate belief in God is already ample proof of God's existence. And of course, there's all the philosophical arguments. Hell, even the ancient Greeks considered atheism so unnatural, they considered atheists to be rejected by God, rather than rejecting God themselves
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIv8BVDK0Ek
I suppose it depends upon how you define evil, however the way I see it is that the test is flawed since there isn't really anything to be gained from it.
That's mostly how I see it at least. But the thing is, I'm not even really opposed to you. It's not like I could convince most people to think like me (nor would I even want to try), and I feel that the world which rampant hedonism has brought us is worse than what it replaced.
As for whatever god exists or not, it's up to every single person to decide for himself. Religious people can't prove god exists, but at the same time atheists can't prove the big bang or anything of the like.
As for the matter of justice and evil, I think there a few points to be made
As for the matter of justice and evil, I think there a few points to be made
- God doesn't need to be just
- Without evil there would be no good, just like chads get bored of sex after a while, we eouldn't notice the existene of "good" without an "evil" to compare it to
- If there was only good in this world, we too would be forced to do good and therefore we would be puppets without free will
- There's also a point to be made about the subjectivism of what is good and not
This is some sub-5 IQ take.
First, it's rich you say religion is made to control, when you yourself are being controlled by porn, usury, wagecucking, and every other form of hedonism and society-destroying trend brought about by atheism.
Second, being controlled is not necessarily a bad thing, especially when humans tend to engage in many self-destructive behaviors, such as drugs, alchohol, adultery, gambling, etc, all of which Islam and other religions generally prevent people from falling into. It's control for their own protection.
Because humans are special. JFL if you think evolution could have given us the complexity we see before us. Even Gaytheist scholars admit its extremely unlikely, hence why they cope with the make-belief multiverse nonsense.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noj4phMT9OE
Allah sent prophets to every nation, so everyone was warned. There were African, European, and Chinese Prophets. And as for those humans who are born in a time or circumstance where their is no message, then they are simply tested differently in the next world.
JFL at you claiming religion is a "fairy tale" then turning around and going 'what about these different human species'. LMFAO they weren't different species, just different races like we have today. Besides, I don't think I need to mention to you just HOW MANY fabrications of supposed ape-human ancestors have been concocted by Gaythesits in an attempt to sell their lies.
Except science confirms humans have an innate belief in God. Try again.
Except science can't explain the complexity of the universe and living organisms being brought about by random mutations. The mathematics, chance, and time behind it is simply impossible, hence why Gaythesits cope with aliens and multiverse BS. Science in fact, if anything, points to intelligent design.
Except atheists are the ones who deny evidence more so than any other group. JFL at how Gaytheists love to blather about muh logic when they advocate fucking dogs.
View: https://twitter.com/DevonShapiro/status/1090061532178890752
View: https://twitter.com/enigmaoftruth1/status/1191857183572549632
You gain paradise
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i dont want arguments, i want concrete proof of god's existence. If you can show me actual proof i will believe in god
they are concrete proofs. Unlike most people here i could(which will never exist due to the nature of god) never trust "scientific proof" of gods existence. Most scientists if pushed to the edge,will admit that most of science is nothing more then theories who will one day most likely be replaced by a theory which will soon also be replaced..Eternal truths of the sort that philosophy deal with, are the type of truths that can actually satisfy me.
If humans have an innate belief in god (based on nature), then how do you explain the existence of so many atheists/agnostics?
JFL this is just a fallacious assumption you're making. Science has never proven that belief in god or belief in anything for that matter, is an intrinsic part of human nature. No "belief" is part of nature lol, if that was the case then beliefs would be OBJECTIVE (universal)
However, the opposite is true: beliefs are SUBJECTIVE and vary from person to person based on their INDIVIDUAL circumstances of birth and life experiences.
It's like you dont even have the self-awareness to realise the fact that had you been born in an atheist family, you would likely believe that there is NO god and you'd be ironically making fun of religious people for being illogical.
You are a product of your GENETICS and ENVIRONMENT.
You are religious not due to nature but because you were born in a religious family and basically raised to have religious beliefs (by your family, religious community etc.), not for the purpose of just keeping those beliefs in your mind, its so that you could APPLY those beliefs in your life through ACTIONS. By being religious, you are restricting your life choices and placing self-imposed limitations upon your ACTIONS, reducing the number of potential avenues for success. This is NOT due to NATURE, it's due to SOCIAL CONDITIONING.
Religion isnt part of nature, religion was created by humans to facilitate social order and the illusion of peace/meritocracy by exerting control over a population, people like you have a "followers" mindset and are very easy to manipulate, you will blindly do what you're told without even thinking for yourself, even if doing so is to your detriment.
In order to be a leader, dont think what others have raised to you think, learn to think for yourself and try to influence other people's beliefs instead of having your beliefs be influenced by others.
@BlkPillPres feel free to add anything
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Religion the original chad worshippers.
show me proof of a gods workings and ill pickup whichever religion he belongs to. until then ill just assume your praising an imaginary spaghetti monster hoping for magic genie wishes
We live in a world of illusion where at the end of the day only the soul is forever. knowing this will allow you to transcend the day to day bs
God is a good cope and religion a proven way of organizing a functioning society, something gaytheists have not been able to replicate.
Whether you see god as an independent agent, an extension of yourself or the manifestation of human experience, the projection brings peace at mind and find people with faith to be better and more virtuous than atheist dumbasses, who mostly are just motivated by a juvenile rebellion against their religious parents.
"ARH HOW DARE YOU TEACH ME FAITH I AM AN INDEPENDET MAN AND I DONT NEED NO GOD!"
Islam of course is a satanist hoax and muslims are going straight to hell to further serve their dark lord Lucifer in eternity.
Whether you see god as an independent agent, an extension of yourself or the manifestation of human experience, the projection brings peace at mind and find people with faith to be better and more virtuous than atheist dumbasses, who mostly are just motivated by a juvenile rebellion against their religious parents.
"ARH HOW DARE YOU TEACH ME FAITH I AM AN INDEPENDET MAN AND I DONT NEED NO GOD!"
Islam of course is a satanist hoax and muslims are going straight to hell to further serve their dark lord Lucifer in eternity.
Disingenuous and false analogy, you are speaking about God as though he has human limitations, he is all powerful, so you can remove every problem in your life without it leading to "another problem in the spotlight", or are you saying Gods power is limited?
Clown-ass logic tbh. Vast majority of humans who have existed have believed in God throughout history, with atheists being a modern outlier. JFL atheists are 13% of the population at best, and that's after all the (((media))) brainwashing convincing them we came from apes.
Read up
Humans 'predisposed' to believe in gods and the afterlife
New research finds that humans have natural tendencies to believe in gods and an afterlife. Research suggests that people across many different cultures instinctively believe that some part of their mind, soul or spirit lives on after-death. The studies demonstrate that people are natural...
www.sciencedaily.com
I agree. That's why we need God to give us objective beliefs.
No I wouldn't, since I came to accept Islam as the truth by researching into it. I don't just blindly follow it. Atheists are the most miserable, suicidal, self-destructive, hedonistic, and degenerate group. Why would I ever be one?
This is true, but has nothing to do with whether God exists or not.
I don't mind self-imposed limitations on my actions, as not all actions are good, especially those promoted by atheism, such as usury, adultery, and individualism. Those limitations lead for a better life
Muslims feel the most spiritual 'oneness' and life satisfaction
Previous research has found that both religion and a feeling of connection or 'oneness' raises overall life satisfaction. Muslims are the most 'one' and the most satisfied, according to new German research.
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You say this, yet how is Islam a detriment when we are the happiest demographic, with the lowest rates of adultery, suicide, drugs, and have strong families? Even Saudi Arabia has a lower crime rate than UK, USA, France, and Canada. Meanwhile, atheists are rotting, killing themselves, drowning in sexual depravity, and so on?
View: https://twitter.com/TenMillionIQ/status/1281479064411398144
View: https://twitter.com/TenMillionIQ/status/1281479072745426945
I have thought for myself. If you can point out anything wrong in Islam, then by all means, go ahead. Most anyone ever cries about his the Prophet marrying a 9 year old girl, which I admit bothered me due to being raised in the west, but after being blackpilled, not anymore.[/QUOTE]
It sucks, we're the worst at everything and we're also delusional religious fanatics.
Circular logic, the vast majority of humans throughout history HAVE BEEN RAISED TO BE RELIGIOUS (sometimes under threat of death)
These numbers are changing over time the more knowledge humans acquire and ironically the more educated the human population becomes, being able to think for yourself and form your own ideas tends to lead to believing less and less in a God
The more advanced the species becomes technology wise, the less religious it becomes, that's not a coincidence
Oh and atheists being into bestiality is just a strawman argument, it has nothing to do with the topic, even if it was true it literally holds no relevance to the topic at hand. Atheists could be both into bestiality and be right about God's none existence, those two positions aren't mutually exclusive (this is the problem with emotional thinkers, you think emotional arguments are actually valid)
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