It is impossible to have a fascist revolution in the developed world unless

[AsiaCel]

The truth is, a fascist revolution, communist or any totalitarian ideologies, when it takes power...

Sanctions, isolation, all of the good stuff rolls in. Many jobs will be lost, and living standards will drop.

Mass riots, protests will follow.

Most people care more about their anime/food/gaming than spiritual shit.

In fact, I think that is the reason why fascist ideologies focuses so much on spiritual aspects.

Excluding economic pressure from the bankers, thos is the reason why people like Meloni accepts 500,000 LEGAL immigrants.

But there is a way. It is to get the most criminal and violent immigrants to the point where a fascist revolution, despite isolation and sanctions, will be better than living in the constant fear of being stabbed everyday.

Weimar republic was a humiliated nation with extreme inflation. A big reason why radical policies happen.

In fact, that is why most revolutions happen on shit hole countries these days, such as Burma and Arab countries, and their civil wars. Those guys have nothing to lose and a Taliban adminstrated Afghanistan won't be much worse off than the old administration.

 

[Cryotron]

But there is a way. It is to get the most criminal and violent immigrants to the point where a fascist revolution, despite isolation and sanctions, will be better than living in the constant fear of being stabbed everyday.

Weimar republic was a humiliated nation with extreme inflation. A big reason why radical policies happen.

I think about this analogy to that time, doubt it can be applied to modern time because world has changed a lot, people have a lot of copes today so they won't rebel. Government has more control over people today as well.

 

[AsiaCel]

I think about this analogy to that time, doubt it can be applied to modern time because world has changed a lot, people have a lot of copes today so they won't rebel. Government has more control over people today as well.

Information spreads with a light speed even in places like China with censorship.

The control aspect is true, but modern governments, despite their extremely powerful military, can fall victim to economic protests. The governments fear people not working and for a good reason. This is passive resistance; in fact, I think it is more powerful than fighting a war.

The government does not fear someone joining ISIS because of the force involved; they fear it because it means one less worker for the economy.

Besides a cause large enough will have lots of sympathy within the national military, spitting it in half.

A big reason why ANA of Afghanistan Was so ineffective was because lots of soldiers support the Taliban or at least are indifferent.

 

[Cryotron]

The governments fear people not working and for a good reason

they fear it because it means one less worker for the economy.

they have a solution

 

[AsiaCel]

they have a solution

That's why I said the only solution to a revolution, or at least, seize of power, is only possible through accelerationism.

Fortunately immigrants tend to be dumber and worse workers, or downright get on welfare. When money inevitably runs out, it's gonna be PUBG.

 

[Cryotron]

only possible through accelerationism.

iirc one of the communists once said something like, the more terrible the conditions of working class the better, in a sense that if people are desperate they will more likely to question their situation more. It doesn't seem to be working well, what will happen is that they will simply cross the point of no return, if not already.

 

[Anarcho Nihilist]

iirc one of the communists once said something like, the more terrible the conditions of working class the better, in a sense that if people are desperate they will more likely to question their situation more. It doesn't seem to be working well, what will happen is that they will simply cross the point of no return, if not already.

The phrase "the worse it gets, the better it gets" is often attributed to Vladimir Lenin in connection with his joy over the "brewing revolutionary situation."

 

[Anarcho Nihilist]

iirc one of the communists once said something like, the more terrible the conditions of working class the better, in a sense that if people are desperate they will more likely to question their situation more. It doesn't seem to be working well, what will happen is that they will simply cross the point of no return, if not already.

"Socialism, I repeat, has ceased to be a dogma, and perhaps it has ceased to be a program. Our party has not yet written a new program, and the old one is no good. The distribution of bread in a proper and equal manner is the basis of socialism today. The war has left us with a legacy of devastation, and the efforts of Kerensky and the kulak landowners, who say, 'After us, the deluge,' have brought the country to a point where they say, 'The worse it gets, the better it is.'" Lenin 1917 year

 

[Anarcho Nihilist]

The phrase "the worse it gets, the better it gets" is often attributed to Vladimir Lenin in connection with his joy over the "brewing revolutionary situation."

According to this principle, the worse the situation becomes in a country, the sooner a revolution will occur.

 

[Manlet_cel]

The truth is, a fascist revolution, communist or any totalitarian ideologies, when it takes power...

Sanctions, isolation, all of the good stuff rolls in. Many jobs will be lost, and living standards will drop.

Mass riots, protests will follow.

Most people care more about their anime/food/gaming than spiritual shit.

In fact, I think that is the reason why fascist ideologies focuses so much on spiritual aspects.

Excluding economic pressure from the bankers, thos is the reason why people like Meloni accepts 500,000 LEGAL immigrants.

But there is a way. It is to get the most criminal and violent immigrants to the point where a fascist revolution, despite isolation and sanctions, will be better than living in the constant fear of being stabbed everyday.

Weimar republic was a humiliated nation with extreme inflation. A big reason why radical policies happen.

In fact, that is why most revolutions happen on shit hole countries these days, such as Burma and Arab countries, and their civil wars. Those guys have nothing to lose and a Taliban adminstrated Afghanistan won't be much worse off than the old administration.

most people simply don't care in modern times give them bread and butter and focus on there eco and social well being and they will voot for you this is how stupid parties stay in power they give people illusion of these things , if fascist or anyone else irl implement this with propaganda against certain people or something then they can train a whole generation and in next decade they can come in power

They have to actively remove people from judiciary and militarily and change them with there loyalist normal 9 -5 people don't care huge demography can be subdued in this way but this is easier said then done

 

[Anarcho Nihilist]

Information spreads with a light speed even in places like China with censorship.

The control aspect is true, but modern governments, despite their extremely powerful military, can fall victim to economic protests. The governments fear people not working and for a good reason. This is passive resistance; in fact, I think it is more powerful than fighting a war.

The government does not fear someone joining ISIS because of the force involved; they fear it because it means one less worker for the economy.

Besides a cause large enough will have lots of sympathy within the national military, spitting it in half.

A big reason why ANA of Afghanistan Was so ineffective was because lots of soldiers support the Taliban or at least are indifferent.

I don't believe in a revolution in any of the world's 1 or 2 countries today. Because it's much easier to cope with life today, and there are more resources available. In the 1910s and 1920s, what were the options for coping? Newspapers, books, alcohol, and that was about it. Today, we have games, movies, anime, and porn, and it's all so technologically advanced that people immerse themselves in it.

 

[Manlet_cel]

According to this principle, the worse the situation becomes in a country, the sooner a revolution will occur.

yes this is the thing

 

[Cryotron]

I don't believe in a revolution in any of the world's 1 or 2 countries today. Because it's much easier to cope with life today, and there are more resources available. In the 1910s and 1920s, what were the options for coping? Newspapers, books, alcohol, and that was about it. Today, we have games, movies, anime, and porn, and it's all so technologically advanced that people immerse themselves in it.

yes, ZOG elites know that and they will rule for a very long time.

 

[Anarcho Nihilist]

Information spreads with a light speed even in places like China with censorship.

The control aspect is true, but modern governments, despite their extremely powerful military, can fall victim to economic protests. The governments fear people not working and for a good reason. This is passive resistance; in fact, I think it is more powerful than fighting a war.

The government does not fear someone joining ISIS because of the force involved; they fear it because it means one less worker for the economy.

Besides a cause large enough will have lots of sympathy within the national military, spitting it in half.

A big reason why ANA of Afghanistan Was so ineffective was because lots of soldiers support the Taliban or at least are indifferent.

There will be no revolution, but the elite will live in reality and enjoy it, with real sex, a big house, real cars, and other benefits, while everyone else will have a small 10-square-meter room, a chatbot as a love object and porn, and virtual reality. The future will be divided based on whether you have virtual or real benefits.

 

[Anarcho Nihilist]

yes, ZOG elites know that and they will rule for a very long time.

They will rule forever, because the population of developed countries is aging, and the elderly are incapable of revolution; they are more prone to conformity and acceptance of what the elites give them.

 

[RandomGuy]

 

[erenyeager]

I think about this analogy to that time, doubt it can be applied to modern time because world has changed a lot, people have a lot of copes today so they won't rebel. Government has more control over people today as well.

Take the copes away and make em live like erenyeager, poor alone, nothing to do when waking up

 

[Scrangillious Q.]

Nah, there is no revolution for incels. The world will hate us, whatever we do.

 

[Antorian]

Revolution unfortunately will only happen when things are SO BAD that the people will see anything as better than what they have.

So, only under a new Great Depression or after a devastating war that left the nation ruined.