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Is there any smart opponent of the Blackpill out there?

Defeated Lobster

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No awakening has ever been pleasurable to me. Over the last five years, I have had all my beliefs torn down by hard data and historical evidence. Other than that, personal experience.

I will never forget that city bus ride. I sat in the back with my father. Two loud Negroes got on the bus and assaulted the elders next to the door. The driver didn't move a finger. Apparently, that was a quite common occurrence. Everyone just stood there in shock. All the things the racists said are true, I thought to myself. So I began performing research.

It was my last year in High School. I wasn't invited to prom. My father insisted on the idea that women would just flock to me as soon as I had enough money to afford a good house and a decent car. This was, of course, counterintuitive to me: all my school acquaintances were hooking up with multiple girls as I went home to study. It was a lower-middle-class, predominantly White school, mind you.

My identity is not attached to the Blackpill. This means I'm open to new ideas on the condition that they are coherent and verifiable. However, there seems to be no smart opponent of the Blackpill out there. They are certainly not hiding on Reddit nor can they be found on YouTubeas a case in point, I spent days performing research on YouTube to try and find some meaningful content disproving the Blackpill. It was mostly anecdotal evidence from Redpill coaches selling their self-improvement courses to desperate young men.

I have nothing to lose in case the Blackpill is disproven. In fact, I would win in such a scenario. But no matter how much time I spend reading the arguments of opponents, I find nothing convincing. The scientific literature on the Blackpill is as terrifying to me as the literature on IQ is. There's no counterargument; just cold, hard data.

I'm still waiting for the brilliant rebuttals from the people who think they know better than us. I'm willing to read their studies and analyze the evidence. Yet, there seems to be no way back: the Blackpill is the truth.
 
Im too high to read all of those words
 
AdvocateDoogy
just kidding
 
Some of blackpill is nonsense shit. Like status thing. Status is not due to looks. In society (matrix) to some extent it is, in real life it is due to the power (your own plus people who follow you due to you being dangerous and having benefits out of it). If you can kill so called chad then how is he better than you when he is eaten by worms?

There are people I fought who were arrogant in their abilities and better looking and people cared about them. I WON! I FUCKED' EM UP! So my genetics are shit? Blackpill to some extent is shit. Genetics are to some extent shit 'cause most of those are lies that they want to tell you, you can't go for what you claim to be yours THROUGH USING FORCE!

People call truth no matter it is :bluepill: or :redpill: or :blackpill: Most of this is just idee fixe, a belief you claim to be absolute truth you have to succumb to and be on this truth's knees. Do I have to remind you people throughout history of mankind believed in various things and they defended the status quo and virtue signalled?

The truth is only what works for me

If you have power you have everything and clear power you earn by killing, stealing, conquering, raping.
 
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No. How can you be smart if you oppose scientific evidence?
 
you never fucking read anything
 
the Blackpill is the truth.
well the blackpill could be "disproven" in the early to late 1980s because there was no global market for dating however now because fems have so many options to pick from it revealed the true nature of the femoid species

femoids always have thought like this but because there was not a vast amount of men to pick from they had no choice but to cuck for an average or slightly below average looking dude

now given with all the social media we have today it seems like for the majority of people whos looks are below a 6/10 are strugling hard to find a relationship and for those below 5/10 its almost impossible without seamaxxing and marrying the most ugly disgusting women that only wants you for your money

at this point I give up and lay down my white flag just let god have mercy on my soul
 
Blackpill is disproven
I would think that the blackpill is a harsh truth for truecels but there are some women who would sympathy fuck you out of guilt but its still very rare and never leads to a true relationship
 
The only good argument i’ve ever heard is “look at this one ugly / short guy! he got a gf, why can’t you?”
 
Same. Good for you.

The core of blackpill is rock-solid. Lookism and irrelevance of personality has a mountain of evidence compared to a few crumbs for bluepill.

However, high IQ blackpill opponents can point to minor cracks here and there. 2 of which are, in my humble opinion:

(A) Status as Aphrodisiac: Status can be attractive in and of itself (not because it's tied to money/beta-buxxing or looks). For an example, a leader of a group of poor communists or the quarterback in a high school football team - neither tied to money/looks. This doesn't cancel lookism - but simply being high-status can improve your SMV. And not just to improve the foid's own status (she's willing to do it in secret).

(B) Stockholm Syndrome/Learned Attraction: Specifically after a good fucking. I've read countless cases where a woman falls in love with their normie (and sometimes even ugly) rapist. And though there's a dark triad thing at play - it's deeper than that. They don't just like random dark triad strangers as much - There is a true manipulation that can be done by antisocial men that improves their SMV to a particular foid.

I'm sure many will disagree though.
You forget a third crack and is that many of data is gathered from dating apps. Therefore many phenomenons like the 80/20 rule or juggernaut law (tons of high tier normies and chadlites simping over a granny for example) are the worst of the cases but not the norm YET.
 
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well the blackpill could be "disproven" in the early to late 1980s because there was no global market for dating however now because fems have so many options to pick from it revealed the true nature of the femoid species

femoids always have thought like this but because there was not a vast amount of men to pick from they had no choice but to cuck for an average or slightly below average looking dude

now given with all the social media we have today it seems like for the majority of people whos looks are below a 6/10 are strugling hard to find a relationship and for those below 5/10 its almost impossible without seamaxxing and marrying the most ugly disgusting women that only wants you for your money

at this point I give up and lay down my white flag just let god have mercy on my soul
I'd say that blackpill makes less cartoonish some mysogynists habits in the past. If women are treated as property in a monogamy-based society they will be less sexlessmen.

For this reason incels are often targeted as terrorists, nazis etc. Isn't because of that since a giga-minority of incels do those crimes, is because blackpill knowledge gives sense to the mysogynist habits that shaped society and are sold as something regressive by feminists.

The blackpill per se has always been there. It just happened that men were careless about what foids think and social pressure led foids to adapt to the system (marrying a ugly fuck 10 years older than you instead breeding with Chad). WELL cheating happened back then but at least less men were sexless.
 
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I'd say that blackpill makes less cartoonish some mysogynists habits in the past. If women are treated as property in a monogamy-based society they will be less sexlessmen.

For this reason incels are often targeted as terrorists, nazis etc. Isn't because of that since a giga-minority of incels do those crimes, is because blackpill knowledge gives sense to the mysogynist habits that shaped society and are sold as something regressive by feminists.
please explain this to me in simple terms I have a really low IQ :feelsUgh:
 
No awakening has ever been pleasurable to me. Over the last five years, I have had all my beliefs torn down by hard data and historical evidence. Other than that, personal experience.

I will never forget that city bus ride. I sat in the back with my father. Two loud Negroes got on the bus and assaulted the elders next to the door. The driver didn't move a finger. Apparently, that was a quite common occurrence. Everyone just stood there in shock. All the things the racists said are true, I thought to myself. So I began performing research.

It was my last year in High School. I wasn't invited to prom. My father insisted on the idea that women would just flock to me as soon as I had enough money to afford a good house and a decent car. This was, of course, counterintuitive to me: all my school acquaintances were hooking up with multiple girls as I went home to study. It was a lower-middle-class, predominantly White school, mind you.

My identity is not attached to the Blackpill. This means I'm open to new ideas on the condition that they are coherent and verifiable. However, there seems to be no smart opponent of the Blackpill out there. They are certainly not hiding on Reddit nor can they be found on YouTubeas a case in point, I spent days performing research on YouTube to try and find some meaningful content disproving the Blackpill. It was mostly anecdotal evidence from Redpill coaches selling their self-improvement courses to desperate young men.

I have nothing to lose in case the Blackpill is disproven. In fact, I would win in such a scenario. But no matter how much time I spend reading the arguments of opponents, I find nothing convincing. The scientific literature on the Blackpill is as terrifying to me as the literature on IQ is. There's no counterargument; just cold, hard data.

I'm still waiting for the brilliant rebuttals from the people who think they know better than us. I'm willing to read their studies and analyze the evidence. Yet, there seems to be no way back: the Blackpill is the truth.
The blackpill debate is not about smartness, is about subversion

View: https://youtu.be/Y9TviIuXPSE


Basically, generations of people have been brainwashed plus the blackpill isn't something that most people want to hear anyway. Propaganda toward the blackpill doesn't help also.
 
please explain this to me in simple terms I have a really low IQ :feelsUgh:
Someone understood several millenia ago that foids shouldn't have rights. This had to be worlwide. Otherwise this shit will happen because it happened once.

Nowadays feminists and leftists in general point out ignoring the blackpill that may jusfify why foids didn't have rights.
 
Someone understood several millenia ago that foids shouldn't have rights. This had to be worlwide. Otherwise this shit will happen because it happened once.

Nowadays feminists and leftists in general point out ignoring the blackpill that may jusfify why foids didn't have rights.
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Good for you, i'm in the same position. Im open to new ideas, i really really want to get laid at the end of the day so it would be incredible if the blackpill was disproven. Alas, for now it stands strong and tall. Too much cientific and anecdotal evidence. While there's too much debate as to what constitutes the blackpill, i just understand it as the belief that looks triumph over all else.

I don't believe the nonsense 8+ only, and that only 20% of men are getting laid(for now at least i don't think it's true) i just believe that women can/will choose the best partner posible from their availeable options and that there's a threshold of attraction that you need to pass before a women will think of dating you.

There are exceptions to the blackpill, there are factors that the blackpill dosnt really delve too much into. Like status/money, proximity, and another variables that do play a role in attraction(less than looks ofc). Also most of blackpill data are taken from dating apps, where the most shallow women on earth are. Those statistics are helpfull, but don't paint the whole picture.
 
Nope its truth
Good for you, i'm in the same position. Im open to new ideas, i really really want to get laid at the end of the day so it would be incredible if the blackpill was disproven. Alas, for now it stands strong and tall. Too much cientific and anecdotal evidence. While there's too much debate as to what constitutes the blackpill, i just understand it as the belief that looks triumph over all else.

I don't believe the nonsense 8+ only, and that only 20% of men are getting laid(for now at least i don't think it's true) i just believe that women can/will choose the best partner posible from their availeable options and that there's a threshold of attraction that you need to pass before a women will think of dating you.

There are exceptions to the blackpill, there are factors that the blackpill dosnt really delve too much into. Like status/money, proximity, and another variables that do play a role in attraction(less than looks ofc). Also most of blackpill data are taken from dating apps, where the most shallow women on earth are. Those statistics are helpfull, but don't paint the whole picture.
Nope its truth
 
there is the notion that women can sense personalities, read minds etc which is something that cannot be proven/tested. also the notion that self imrovement works if you do it "correctly", again something that cannot be proven or tested since you cant know a person's state of mind. generally any theory that cannot be proven/tested is a smart opponent imo.

blackpills has lots of argument but these theories dont have anything so you cannot win against them by debating them
 

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