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Is their such thing as an original idea?

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Everything is an inspiration of what we see, hear, and feel, nothing is truly original, we take ideas from whats around us,

Every inventor, every artist, every dreamer is really a remixer. Newton didn't conjure gravity from nothing an apple fell, and he had a lifetime of observation to connect it to. Shakespeare didn't invent jealousy or ambition he just arranged the words of his world into a mirror. Einstein admitted his greatest tool was the thought experiment but every image in those experiments, the trains, the clocks, the light beams, came from the world around him.


And then there is the colour problem perhaps the most humbling proof of all. Close your eyes and try to imagine a colour that does not exist. Not a shade of red, not a variation of blue, not something between green and yellow. A genuinely new colour. You cannot do it. Nobody can. For all our creativity, for all our poetry and mathematics and art, not a single human being has ever thought of a colour that wasn't already waiting in the world for their eyes to find it. The entire visible spectrum was given to us we didn't invent a single wavelength of it. And yet we call ourselves imaginative.


Even our wildest fantasies obey this rule. A dragon is just a lizard with wings and fire all things we already know. An angel is a human with feathers borrowed from birds. Our most alien sci-fi monsters are still built from eyes, limbs, and mouths, because those are the only tools our imagination has ever been handed.


There's something almost humbling about this. The human mind, for all its brilliance, is fundamentally a pattern engine it absorbs the world, breaks it into pieces, and recombines those pieces in new arrangements. Creativity isn't creation ex nihilo. It's curation. It's collision. It's two old things meeting in a new way.


And here's the deeper implication: your capacity for original thought is only as wide as your experience. The more you read, travel, feel, suffer, love, and observe — the larger your palette becomes. A person who has only ever seen grey skies will never dream in colour.


This is why solitary confinement breaks the mind. Why sensory deprivation distorts thought. Why children raised without language cannot think in abstract categories. The mind doesn't generate it reflects, refracts, and recombines. Take away the input, and the output dries up too.


But perhaps this isn't a limitation to mourn. Perhaps it's an invitation. If every idea is a child of experience, then living more richly is the only way to think more originally. The philosopher walks further into the world not to escape thought, but to feed it.


We are not creators. We are, all of us, translators taking the raw language of existence and rendering it into something the rest of humanity hasn't quite heard before.


And maybe that's enough. Maybe that is the miracle.
 
Social experiment #1
 
Original ideas are original because nobody thought of them yet and acted upon them. This applies to connections and intuitions between areas too. It's clear to see it in mathematics: original ideas, proofs etc are not drawn in a vacuum, but exist in a framework of everything that has been thought up prior. You just connect those ideas and voila. I mean, from a mathematical logic standpoint, really those original ideas simply manifest what was already implied by the axiomatic structure. That's why axioms aren't true and the theorems that are derived from them aren't either. To have an original idea you have to think, and thought is something that exists before we think about the original idea.

Really it's all just about manifesting connections previously unseen.

You're right about everything else though, imo.
 
Also thank you for the post it's a breath of fresh air.
 
Original ideas are original because nobody thought of them yet and acted upon them. This applies to connections and intuitions between areas too. It's clear to see it in mathematics: original ideas, proofs etc are not drawn in a vacuum, but exist in a framework of everything that has been thought up prior. You just connect those ideas and voila. I mean, from a mathematical logic standpoint, really those original ideas simply manifest what was already implied by the axiomatic structure. That's why axioms aren't true and the theorems that are derived from them aren't either. To have an original idea you have to think, and thought is something that exists before we think about the original idea.

Really it's all just about manifesting connections previously unseen.

You're right about everything else though, imo.
Beautiful wording
 
i was gonna write a response to this but it just got longer and longer so I’m gonna save it for a post of my own geg
 
idk im too tired to form an opinion
 
Hard agree with your conclusion. Originality doesn't exist. Everything is a derivative of something that came before. Even the BP is like this.
@Moderation Staff This thread is Must Read worthy.
 
Holy philosophycel, finally a thread that isn't suicidefuel. Thank you OP
 
You're probably right.
 
Had this same idea for the longest time. Human mind can't invent anything new. Everything is a pattern and the artist's job is to lie to the observer that he made something original.
 
Hard agree with your conclusion. Originality doesn't exist. Everything is a derivative of something that came before. Even the BP is like this.
@Moderation Staff This thread is Must Read worthy.
Agreed, were all empty canvases when were born
 

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