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Serious Is the "incel movement" effectively pro-system?

Redbeard7

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  1. It promotes an attitude of personal and political demoralisation ("It's over."), therefore any self-improvement or political action is at best pointless if not dangerous
  2. The ideology is effectively anti-natal, if not suicidal
  3. The label is "bad optics", suggesting that they are driven entirely by sexual deprivation (rather than romantic deprivation, which is far more accurate) and this is associated with the cultural archetype of the ugly, physically weak, evil villain
  4. It suggests that the men who self-identify as incels are inherently disgusting to the opposite sex (which is harmful if not crushing for ones self-esteem, confidence and will) and thus repulsive to other men as well as women, discouraging anyone but the most despairing men from identifying with it
  5. The term is used to smear genuine opponents of the system by conflating those who believe in (among other things) a virile and healthy patriarchal order with often deranged and depraved, terminally online, nihilistic and impotent individuals
  6. It's a term which (effectively) excludes women inherently, making it far less effective in terms of achieving concrete goals
  7. It becomes a breeding ground for tall poppy syndrome, deranged misanthropy and anti-female invective (probably frequently egged on by federal agents), which hurts your psyche as a man irrespective of anything else (the spectre of inceldom fosters increased hatred and distrust between men and women, with a litany of negative consequences)
  8. It promotes the idea of a race-blind quasi-communist movement against "the matriarchy", which is an inherently unstable, unnatural coalition and based on a flawed analysis of power dynamics in society
  9. The best known "incel hero" is spree killer Elliot Rodger: a psychologically repulsive narcissist of half-Asian descent (other prominent faces of inceldom include Armenian Alek Minassian and a mulatto whose name I cannot recall)
  10. It diverts a lot of fundamentally positive and potentially revolutionary (European) masculine energy into a futile and self-destructive end
 
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Nigger
 
There is no "incel movement." There are only low status, undesirable men who sought out the company of other men who understand what's going on

That is literally it.
 
Redbeard7 said:
  1. It promotes an attitude of personal and political demoralisation ("It's over."), therefore any self-improvement or political action is at best pointless if not dangerous
  2. The ideology is effectively anti-natal, if not suicidal
  3. The label is "bad optics", suggesting that they are driven entirely by sexual deprivation (rather than romantic deprivation, which is far more accurate) and this is associated with the cultural archetype of the ugly, physically weak, evil villain
  4. It suggests that the men who self-identify as incels are inherently disgusting to the opposite sex (which is harmful if not crushing for ones self-esteem, confidence and will) and thus repulsive to other men as well as women, discouraging anyone but the most despairing men from identifying with it
  5. The term is used to smear genuine opponents of the system by conflating those who believe in (among other things) a virile and healthy patriarchal order with often deranged and depraved, terminally online, nihilistic and impotent individuals
  6. It's a term which (effectively) excludes women inherently, making it far less effective in terms of achieving concrete goals
  7. It becomes a breeding ground for tall poppy syndrome, deranged misanthropy and anti-female invective (probably frequently egged on by federal agents), which hurts your psyche as a man irrespective of anything else (the spectre of inceldom fosters increased hatred and distrust between men and women, with a litany of negative consequences)
  8. It promotes the idea of a race-blind quasi-communist movement against "the matriarchy", which is an inherently unstable, unnatural coalition and based on a flawed analysis of power dynamics in society
  9. The best known "incel hero" is spree killer Elliot Rodger: a psychologically repulsive narcissist of half-Asian descent (other prominent faces of inceldom include Armenian Alek Minassian and a mulatto whose name I cannot recall)
  10. It diverts a lot of fundamentally positive and potentially revolutionary (European) masculine energy into a futile and self-destructive end
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ok, can I go jerking off now?
 
Redbeard7 said:
  1. It promotes an attitude of personal and political demoralisation ("It's over."), therefore any self-improvement or political action is at best pointless if not dangerous
  2. The ideology is effectively anti-natal, if not suicidal
  3. The label is "bad optics", suggesting that they are driven entirely by sexual deprivation (rather than romantic deprivation, which is far more accurate) and this is associated with the cultural archetype of the ugly, physically weak, evil villain
  4. It suggests that the men who self-identify as incels are inherently disgusting to the opposite sex (which is harmful if not crushing for ones self-esteem, confidence and will) and thus repulsive to other men as well as women, discouraging anyone but the most despairing men from identifying with it
  5. The term is used to smear genuine opponents of the system by conflating those who believe in (among other things) a virile and healthy patriarchal order with often deranged and depraved, terminally online, nihilistic and impotent individuals
  6. It's a term which (effectively) excludes women inherently, making it far less effective in terms of achieving concrete goals
  7. It becomes a breeding ground for tall poppy syndrome, deranged misanthropy and anti-female invective (probably frequently egged on by federal agents), which hurts your psyche as a man irrespective of anything else (the spectre of inceldom fosters increased hatred and distrust between men and women, with a litany of negative consequences)
  8. It promotes the idea of a race-blind quasi-communist movement against "the matriarchy", which is an inherently unstable, unnatural coalition and based on a flawed analysis of power dynamics in society
  9. The best known "incel hero" is spree killer Elliot Rodger: a psychologically repulsive narcissist of half-Asian descent (other prominent faces of inceldom include Armenian Alek Minassian and a mulatto whose name I cannot recall)
  10. It diverts a lot of fundamentally positive and potentially revolutionary (European) masculine energy into a futile and self-destructive end
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communism for everyone!!!!!
 
Redbeard7 said:
  1. It promotes an attitude of personal and political demoralisation ("It's over."), therefore any self-improvement or political action is at best pointless if not dangerous
  2. The ideology is effectively anti-natal, if not suicidal
  3. The label is "bad optics", suggesting that they are driven entirely by sexual deprivation (rather than romantic deprivation, which is far more accurate) and this is associated with the cultural archetype of the ugly, physically weak, evil villain
  4. It suggests that the men who self-identify as incels are inherently disgusting to the opposite sex (which is harmful if not crushing for ones self-esteem, confidence and will) and thus repulsive to other men as well as women, discouraging anyone but the most despairing men from identifying with it
  5. The term is used to smear genuine opponents of the system by conflating those who believe in (among other things) a virile and healthy patriarchal order with often deranged and depraved, terminally online, nihilistic and impotent individuals
  6. It's a term which (effectively) excludes women inherently, making it far less effective in terms of achieving concrete goals
  7. It becomes a breeding ground for tall poppy syndrome, deranged misanthropy and anti-female invective (probably frequently egged on by federal agents), which hurts your psyche as a man irrespective of anything else (the spectre of inceldom fosters increased hatred and distrust between men and women, with a litany of negative consequences)
  8. It promotes the idea of a race-blind quasi-communist movement against "the matriarchy", which is an inherently unstable, unnatural coalition and based on a flawed analysis of power dynamics in society
  9. The best known "incel hero" is spree killer Elliot Rodger: a psychologically repulsive narcissist of half-Asian descent (other prominent faces of inceldom include Armenian Alek Minassian and a mulatto whose name I cannot recall)
  10. It diverts a lot of fundamentally positive and potentially revolutionary (European) masculine energy into a futile and self-destructive end
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TLDR- fuck off closet
 
'incel movement'

wtf
 
This isn't a movement, GrAY. It's a state of being
 
the system is literal foid gynocracy that hates incels

so no

only femdomcuck incels support that
 
I disagree, I think the predominant incel worldview is fundamentally antithetical to the system because it fundamentally de-incentivizes a hustle culture that benefits Chads and women. Though the incel lifestyle may inadvertantly benefit feminists.

I made a post writing about this but it will take me a while to find it
 
Redbeard7 said:
It becomes a breeding ground for tall poppy syndrome, deranged misanthropy and anti-female invective (probably frequently egged on by federal agents),
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I know that feds are here to fuck us up even more. thats on of the truest things, really man, can you prove this?
 
There's no Incel movement, first of all.
 
Redbeard7 said:
  1. It promotes an attitude of personal and political demoralisation ("It's over."), therefore any self-improvement or political action is at best pointless if not dangerous
  2. The ideology is effectively anti-natal, if not suicidal
  3. The label is "bad optics", suggesting that they are driven entirely by sexual deprivation (rather than romantic deprivation, which is far more accurate) and this is associated with the cultural archetype of the ugly, physically weak, evil villain
  4. It suggests that the men who self-identify as incels are inherently disgusting to the opposite sex (which is harmful if not crushing for ones self-esteem, confidence and will) and thus repulsive to other men as well as women, discouraging anyone but the most despairing men from identifying with it
  5. The term is used to smear genuine opponents of the system by conflating those who believe in (among other things) a virile and healthy patriarchal order with often deranged and depraved, terminally online, nihilistic and impotent individuals
  6. It's a term which (effectively) excludes women inherently, making it far less effective in terms of achieving concrete goals
  7. It becomes a breeding ground for tall poppy syndrome, deranged misanthropy and anti-female invective (probably frequently egged on by federal agents), which hurts your psyche as a man irrespective of anything else (the spectre of inceldom fosters increased hatred and distrust between men and women, with a litany of negative consequences)
  8. It promotes the idea of a race-blind quasi-communist movement against "the matriarchy", which is an inherently unstable, unnatural coalition and based on a flawed analysis of power dynamics in society
  9. The best known "incel hero" is spree killer Elliot Rodger: a psychologically repulsive narcissist of half-Asian descent (other prominent faces of inceldom include Armenian Alek Minassian and a mulatto whose name I cannot recall)
  10. It diverts a lot of fundamentally positive and potentially revolutionary (European) masculine energy into a futile and self-destructive end
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poppy syndrome is that how chads call it? could be a porn name "chad and poppy"
 
SlayerSlayer said:
I disagree, I think the predominant incel worldview is fundamentally antithetical to the system because it fundamentally de-incentivizes a hustle culture that benefits Chads and women. Though the incel lifestyle may inadvertantly benefit feminists.

I made a post writing about this but it will take me a while to find it
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"because it fundamentally de-incentivizes a hustle culture"

This is an overlap with NEETism which can be seen as a benefit. Still it's not clear-cut: change often comes from within power structures rather than outside.

It's not that incelism is pro-system in every respect (it clearly has anti-system elements) but I'd say it's effectively 50-80% pro-system, similar to skinhead Neo-Nazism. Whereas cuckservatism or shitlibism are obviously 100% pro-system.​
 
i dont understand this thread im too drunk and low iq
 
BricABrac said:
There is no "incel movement." There are only low status, undesirable men who sought out the company of other men who understand what's going on

That is literally it.
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Redbeard7 said:
"because it fundamentally de-incentivizes a hustle culture"

This is an overlap with NEETism which can be seen as a benefit. Still it's not clear-cut: change often comes from within power structures rather than outside.

It's not that incelism is pro-system in every respect (it clearly has anti-system elements) but I'd say it's effectively 50-80% pro-system, similar to skinhead Neo-Nazism. Whereas cuckservatism or shitlibism are obviously 100% pro-system.​
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COMMUNISM?
 
XtremeMax said:
i dont understand this thread im too drunk and low iq
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same problem here, some chads try to explain why inceldom is dangerous but my low iq autist brain just understand bli bla blub
 
Redbeard7 said:
Communism is 100% pro-system, it's got no revolutionary potential anymore.
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what the hell nigga? fuck capitalism ! It have 100% potential. Communist will take money from the rich fags
 
Redbeard7 said:
"because it fundamentally de-incentivizes a hustle culture"

This is an overlap with NEETism which can be seen as a benefit. Still it's not clear-cut: change often comes from within power structures rather than outside.

It's not that incelism is pro-system in every respect (it clearly has anti-system elements) but I'd say it's effectively 50-80% pro-system, similar to skinhead Neo-Nazism. Whereas cuckservatism or shitlibism are obviously 100% pro-system.​
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I think what your post needs is to first define what you perceive to be the core tenets of what is 'pro-system'

To me pro-system is simply pro Zionism. That's only consistent thing about being pro-system. Zionism IS the system.
 
Redbeard7 said:
Communism is 100% pro-system, it's got no revolutionary potential anymore.
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everyone get the same. banks, chads and other fags couldnt make money anymore. Good for inkwells bad for others HA
Flashing Of Karl Marx GIF
 
There is no incel movement.

Inceldom itself is a symptom of the decline and degeneration of the West, and there is no point in trying to cure it because it is inevitable. We incels are the last men Nietzsche predicted and warned about.
 
SlayerSlayer said:
I think what your post needs is to first define what you perceive to be the core tenets of what is 'pro-system'

To me pro-system is simply pro Zionism. That's only consistent thing about being pro-system. Zionism IS the system.
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By pro-system I mean that the ideology in practice works to strengthen the system regardless of the views or intentions of its advocates. Hollywood Neo-Nazism is another great example of this:


View: https://www.tumblr.com/batmancomicanalysis/747141673495199744/thoughts-about-neo-nazism


Zionism is a key part of the system (especially in America) but I disagree that it constitutes the entirety of the system. There are more interests at play here than that ("leftism" and capitalism for example).​
 
schwanzuslongus said:
what the hell nigga? fuck capitalism ! It have 100% potential. Communist will take money from the rich fags
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Modern communists care far more about sticking things up their bums and trying to fight "Nazis" like Kyle Rittenhouse than overthrowing the plutocrats.
 
idk if is or not, blackpill is just a genetical nihilism
 
Redbeard7 said:
By pro-system I mean that the ideology in practice works to strengthen the system regardless of the views or intentions of its advocates. Hollywood Neo-Nazism is another great example of this:


View: https://www.tumblr.com/batmancomicanalysis/747141673495199744/thoughts-about-neo-nazism


Zionism is a key part of the system (especially in America) but I disagree that it constitutes the entirety of the system. There are more interests at play here than that ("leftism" and capitalism for example).​
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they want to destroy whites!
 
Redbeard7 said:
Modern communists care far more about sticking things up their bums and trying to fight "Nazis" like Kyle Rittenhouse than overthrowing the plutocrats.
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who cares about the plutocrats

foids are the enemy
 
Castaway said:
There is no incel movement.

Inceldom itself is a symptom of the decline and degeneration of the West, and there is no point in trying to cure it because it is inevitable. We incels are the last men Nietzsche predicted and warned about.
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This is a thoroughly demoralised perspective which couldn't play more into their hands.

Their regime is based on lies, immorality and it's fundamentally opposed to nature. It will collapse just as communism did, which also seemed inevitable for a very long time.​
 
Redbeard7 said:
Modern communists care far more about sticking things up their bums and trying to fight "Nazis" like Kyle Rittenhouse than overthrowing the plutocrats.
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real communist fight against the big companys, against the american occupation in europe like the "ROTE ARMEE FRAKTION"
1723155839343
 
i agree with you in every point but its like a involuntary thing and outside of ideological choice or a fight against the system, either the incels does not exist or the things he says are right in some way
 
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Redbeard7 said:
  1. It promotes an attitude of personal and political demoralisation ("It's over."), therefore any self-improvement or political action is at best pointless if not dangerous
  2. The ideology is effectively anti-natal, if not suicidal
  3. The label is "bad optics", suggesting that they are driven entirely by sexual deprivation (rather than romantic deprivation, which is far more accurate) and this is associated with the cultural archetype of the ugly, physically weak, evil villain
  4. It suggests that the men who self-identify as incels are inherently disgusting to the opposite sex (which is harmful if not crushing for ones self-esteem, confidence and will) and thus repulsive to other men as well as women, discouraging anyone but the most despairing men from identifying with it
  5. The term is used to smear genuine opponents of the system by conflating those who believe in (among other things) a virile and healthy patriarchal order with often deranged and depraved, terminally online, nihilistic and impotent individuals
  6. It's a term which (effectively) excludes women inherently, making it far less effective in terms of achieving concrete goals
  7. It becomes a breeding ground for tall poppy syndrome, deranged misanthropy and anti-female invective (probably frequently egged on by federal agents), which hurts your psyche as a man irrespective of anything else (the spectre of inceldom fosters increased hatred and distrust between men and women, with a litany of negative consequences)
  8. It promotes the idea of a race-blind quasi-communist movement against "the matriarchy", which is an inherently unstable, unnatural coalition and based on a flawed analysis of power dynamics in society
  9. The best known "incel hero" is spree killer Elliot Rodger: a psychologically repulsive narcissist of half-Asian descent (other prominent faces of inceldom include Armenian Alek Minassian and a mulatto whose name I cannot recall)
  10. It diverts a lot of fundamentally positive and potentially revolutionary (European) masculine energy into a futile and self-destructive end
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bro fell for the "incel is an ideology/movement where men hate women" meme

nigger we are here not by choice, it's not a movement, it's not men going their own way, it's men SENT their own way lmfao.

we gave up because we're tired of trying, we're anti-natalist because life is suffering and it would've been better to not have been born in this, we don't self identify we realized what WE ARE to others.
 
Redbeard7 said:
Their regime is based on lies, immorality and it's fundamentally opposed to nature. It will collapse just as communism did, which also seemed inevitable for a very long time.
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no man we must destroy it, people overthrow this shit system
 
Redbeard7 said:
Their regime is based on lies, immorality and it's fundamentally opposed to nature. It will collapse just as communism did, which also seemed inevitable for a very long time.​
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:yes: state that allows hypergamy will collapse sooner or later cause it's against nature and common good.
 
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