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Serious Is personality real?

aikido

aikido

Greycel
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Firstly I would like to clarify what "personality" means.

"Personality refers to a person's distinctive patterns of thinking, feeling, and behaving. It derives from a mix of innate dispositions and inclinations along with environmental factors and experiences. Although personality can change over a lifetime, one's core personality traits tend to remain relatively consistent during adulthood."

Modern psycuckhology defines "personality" in terms of five basic traits. The so-called Big Five are "openness to experience, conscientiousness, extroversion, agreeableness, and neuroticism. A newer model, called HEXACO, incorporates honesty-humility as a sixth key trait."

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/basics/personality


I will focus on the "extroversion" trait since it is the one that is most often weaponized by normies as the reason for inceldom:

"Just go outside bro"

"Just talk to women bro"

"Just put yourself out there bro"


...


Good looking babies and children are rewarded with attention and compliments, causing them to reciprocate the behavior and thus their "personality" is born.

If you are good looking, you naturally receive a lot of attention.
That need for attention and validation becomes a part of you.


Still, that does not mean every single attractive person is extroverted.
You can be attractive and genuinely an introvert, but the inverse is certainly not true.

If you are not physically attractive, you cannot behave like one simply because doing so requires you to have some sort of positive reinforcement which is incompatible with being unattractive. Your genetic/environmental background completely overwrites any personal beliefs or wishes that make up your personality. Your genetic/environmental background is your personality.


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Example: A truecel behaving like a super extroverted Chad, being the "life of the party" type of guy. No one would ever truly believe in this act since this behavior is reserved for those who fit the requirement of having a positive feedback loop and therefore being attractive.

Now on the contrary, if Chad is behaving is a nerdy introverted way, no one would question his actions since being an introverted nerd does not require you to fit any social/looks norms.

In a way, one could argue that if the truecel "personality" is only a response to his environment it's no different than a computer's result to running a certain program and therefore personality (for truecels at least) is no more than a computer like response to one's "program".

If for the genetic and/or environmental low end (incels/truecels) personality is no more than a weighted sum of outside factors how can their "personality" be a "person's distinctive patterns of thinking, feeling, and behaving" that derives from "innate dispositions"?

There is nothing innate about it, your personality is literally the equivalent of your genetic/environmental predisposition and therefore cannot be considered "real" in the sense that it does not depend on yourself.

The sad conclusion is that although for attractive/normal looking people personality exists as an independent factor, the same cannot be said for the lower end of scale, since it "personality" for unattractive people is no more than a reflection of their subhuman condition.

TLDR: The Chad gets to choose (consciously or not) his "personality", while the truecel has no other choice than to be "introverted".

Further reading for those interested:
"The Origins of Extraversion: Joint Effects of Facultative Calibration and Genetic Polymorphism"

https://web.archive.org/web/20130627003531/http://www.cep.ucsb.edu:80/grads/Lukaszewski/Origins of Extraversion_LukaszewskiRoney_FINAL.pdf
 
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I will focus on the "extroversion" trait since it is the one that is most often weaponized by normies as the reason for inceldom
Extroversion has been corrupted in both spelling and meaning from the original Jungian concept of extraversion, which referred exclusively to whether you're extrinsically motivated (your actions directly correlate to external conditions), not whether you're socially outgoing. The pop culture stereotype of an extrovert is closer to somebody exhibiting high agreeableness (A) than true extraversion. I remember one example of extroverted behaviour that Jung gave in his book Psychological Types was a someome who puts on more clothing in response to cold weather whereas an introvert motivated by a subjective desire to harden himself would deliberately brave the cold.
 
Firstly I would like to clarify what "personality" means.

"Personality refers to a person's distinctive patterns of thinking, feeling, and behaving. It derives from a mix of innate dispositions and inclinations along with environmental factors and experiences. Although personality can change over a lifetime, one's core personality traits tend to remain relatively consistent during adulthood."

Modern psycuckhology defines "personality" in terms of five basic traits. The so-called Big Five are "openness to experience, conscientiousness, extroversion, agreeableness, and neuroticism. A newer model, called HEXACO, incorporates honesty-humility as a sixth key trait."

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/basics/personality


I will focus on the "extroversion" trait since it is the one that is most often weaponized by normies as the reason for inceldom:

"Just go outside bro"

"Just talk to women bro"

"Just put yourself out there bro"


...


Good looking babies and children are rewarded with attention and compliments, causing them to reciprocate the behavior and thus their "personality" is born.

If you are good looking, you naturally receive a lot of attention.
That need for attention and validation becomes a part of you.


Still, that does not mean every single attractive person is extroverted.
You can be attractive and genuinely an introvert, but the inverse is certainly not true.

If you are not physically attractive, you cannot behave like one simply because doing so requires you to have some sort of positive reinforcement which is incompatible with being unattractive. Your genetic/environmental background completely overwrites any personal beliefs or wishes that make up your personality. Your genetic/environmental background is your personality.


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paint2.png





Example: A truecel behaving like a super extroverted Chad, being the "life of the party" type of guy. No one would ever truly believe in this act since this behavior is reserved for those who fit the requirement of having a positive feedback loop and therefore being attractive.

Now on the contrary, if Chad is behaving is a nerdy introverted way, no one would question his actions since being an introverted nerd does not require you to fit any social/looks norms.

In a way, one could argue that if the truecel "personality" is only a response to his environment it's no different than a computer's result to running a certain program and therefore personality (for truecels at least) is no more than a computer like response to one's "program".

If for the genetic and/or environmental low end (incels/truecels) personality is no more than a weighted sum of outside factors how can their "personality" be a "person's distinctive patterns of thinking, feeling, and behaving" that derives from "innate dispositions"?

There is nothing innate about it, your personality is literally the equivalent of your genetic/environmental predisposition and therefore cannot be considered "real" in the sense that it does not depend on yourself.

The sad conclusion is that although for attractive/normal looking people personality exists as an independent factor, the same cannot be said for the lower end of scale, since it "personality" for unattractive people is no more than a reflection of their subhuman condition.

TLDR: The Chad gets to choose (consciously or not) his "personality", while the truecel has no other choice than to be "introverted".

Further reading for those interested:
"The Origins of Extraversion: Joint Effects of Facultative Calibration and Genetic Polymorphism"

https://web.archive.org/web/20130627003531/http://www.cep.ucsb.edu:80/grads/Lukaszewski/Origins of Extraversion_LukaszewskiRoney_FINAL.pdf
Personality comes from the word slave pretty much. People use to call it character and not personality
 
Personality doesn’t matter when you’re ugly
 
Most people are NPCs

'Personality' is a meme
 
Personality doesn’t matter when you’re ugly
That's pretty much the bottom line. I simply use the term "real" as a synonym of innate. When you are ugly, your physical appearance determines your personality/character. You have no choice.
 
Firstly I would like to clarify what "personality" means.

"Personality refers to a person's distinctive patterns of thinking, feeling, and behaving. It derives from a mix of innate dispositions and inclinations along with environmental factors and experiences. Although personality can change over a lifetime, one's core personality traits tend to remain relatively consistent during adulthood."

Modern psycuckhology defines "personality" in terms of five basic traits. The so-called Big Five are "openness to experience, conscientiousness, extroversion, agreeableness, and neuroticism. A newer model, called HEXACO, incorporates honesty-humility as a sixth key trait."

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/basics/personality


I will focus on the "extroversion" trait since it is the one that is most often weaponized by normies as the reason for inceldom:

"Just go outside bro"

"Just talk to women bro"

"Just put yourself out there bro"


...


Good looking babies and children are rewarded with attention and compliments, causing them to reciprocate the behavior and thus their "personality" is born.

If you are good looking, you naturally receive a lot of attention.
That need for attention and validation becomes a part of you.


Still, that does not mean every single attractive person is extroverted.
You can be attractive and genuinely an introvert, but the inverse is certainly not true.

If you are not physically attractive, you cannot behave like one simply because doing so requires you to have some sort of positive reinforcement which is incompatible with being unattractive. Your genetic/environmental background completely overwrites any personal beliefs or wishes that make up your personality. Your genetic/environmental background is your personality.


paint1.png



paint2.png





Example: A truecel behaving like a super extroverted Chad, being the "life of the party" type of guy. No one would ever truly believe in this act since this behavior is reserved for those who fit the requirement of having a positive feedback loop and therefore being attractive.

Now on the contrary, if Chad is behaving is a nerdy introverted way, no one would question his actions since being an introverted nerd does not require you to fit any social/looks norms.

In a way, one could argue that if the truecel "personality" is only a response to his environment it's no different than a computer's result to running a certain program and therefore personality (for truecels at least) is no more than a computer like response to one's "program".

If for the genetic and/or environmental low end (incels/truecels) personality is no more than a weighted sum of outside factors how can their "personality" be a "person's distinctive patterns of thinking, feeling, and behaving" that derives from "innate dispositions"?

There is nothing innate about it, your personality is literally the equivalent of your genetic/environmental predisposition and therefore cannot be considered "real" in the sense that it does not depend on yourself.

The sad conclusion is that although for attractive/normal looking people personality exists as an independent factor, the same cannot be said for the lower end of scale, since it "personality" for unattractive people is no more than a reflection of their subhuman condition.

TLDR: The Chad gets to choose (consciously or not) his "personality", while the truecel has no other choice than to be "introverted".

Further reading for those interested:
"The Origins of Extraversion: Joint Effects of Facultative Calibration and Genetic Polymorphism"

https://web.archive.org/web/20130627003531/http://www.cep.ucsb.edu:80/grads/Lukaszewski/Origins of Extraversion_LukaszewskiRoney_FINAL.pdf
Wrong.

There are extroverted truecels (e.g. brunodiferente). Lots of incel and autistic guys are extroverted and outgoing.

what happens is that ugly people are more likely to be mistreated, therefore become more inclined to avoid outgoing behavior due to fear of further mistreatment. This is a PTSD response, not a personality change.
 
If you look like this:

jared leto man GIF


Your positive personality traits will be noted and talked about, and your bad personality traits will be irrelevant.

If you don't (Sub-5) no one will care about your positive personality traits whatsoever, but your bad personality traits will be noted and talked about.
 
Personality is real. But how it is perceived is determined by one's looks.

Chad being confident = cool, charming, sexy etc.

Sub5 being confident = creepy, intrusive, aggressive etc.

Same personality trait. Different perceptions.
 
Thread related to personality:

 
pERsonality is very much real and it is in my face.
 
Personality comes into play when she finds you attractive in the first place. In order to not sound slutty or superficial, a foid will tell other women that a guy has "great personality" if she's already banging him.

Otherwise, you can fill a role as the best friend.
 
Sorry to tell you but no.
 
Women don't give a fuck about average-looking guys either, btw.
 
Firstly I would like to clarify what "personality" means.

"Personality refers to a person's distinctive patterns of thinking, feeling, and behaving. It derives from a mix of innate dispositions and inclinations along with environmental factors and experiences. Although personality can change over a lifetime, one's core personality traits tend to remain relatively consistent during adulthood."

Modern psycuckhology defines "personality" in terms of five basic traits. The so-called Big Five are "openness to experience, conscientiousness, extroversion, agreeableness, and neuroticism. A newer model, called HEXACO, incorporates honesty-humility as a sixth key trait."

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/basics/personality


I will focus on the "extroversion" trait since it is the one that is most often weaponized by normies as the reason for inceldom:

"Just go outside bro"

"Just talk to women bro"

"Just put yourself out there bro"


...


Good looking babies and children are rewarded with attention and compliments, causing them to reciprocate the behavior and thus their "personality" is born.

If you are good looking, you naturally receive a lot of attention.
That need for attention and validation becomes a part of you.


Still, that does not mean every single attractive person is extroverted.
You can be attractive and genuinely an introvert, but the inverse is certainly not true.

If you are not physically attractive, you cannot behave like one simply because doing so requires you to have some sort of positive reinforcement which is incompatible with being unattractive. Your genetic/environmental background completely overwrites any personal beliefs or wishes that make up your personality. Your genetic/environmental background is your personality.


paint1.png



paint2.png





Example: A truecel behaving like a super extroverted Chad, being the "life of the party" type of guy. No one would ever truly believe in this act since this behavior is reserved for those who fit the requirement of having a positive feedback loop and therefore being attractive.

Now on the contrary, if Chad is behaving is a nerdy introverted way, no one would question his actions since being an introverted nerd does not require you to fit any social/looks norms.

In a way, one could argue that if the truecel "personality" is only a response to his environment it's no different than a computer's result to running a certain program and therefore personality (for truecels at least) is no more than a computer like response to one's "program".

If for the genetic and/or environmental low end (incels/truecels) personality is no more than a weighted sum of outside factors how can their "personality" be a "person's distinctive patterns of thinking, feeling, and behaving" that derives from "innate dispositions"?

There is nothing innate about it, your personality is literally the equivalent of your genetic/environmental predisposition and therefore cannot be considered "real" in the sense that it does not depend on yourself.

The sad conclusion is that although for attractive/normal looking people personality exists as an independent factor, the same cannot be said for the lower end of scale, since it "personality" for unattractive people is no more than a reflection of their subhuman condition.

TLDR: The Chad gets to choose (consciously or not) his "personality", while the truecel has no other choice than to be "introverted".

Further reading for those interested:
"The Origins of Extraversion: Joint Effects of Facultative Calibration and Genetic Polymorphism"

https://web.archive.org/web/20130627003531/http://www.cep.ucsb.edu:80/grads/Lukaszewski/Origins of Extraversion_LukaszewskiRoney_FINAL.pdf
Personality is real.

It's about 80% genetic and 20% environmental.
 

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