This thread feels baity as hell but OP is from 2018 so I'll bite.
Morally speaking not legally of course.
Whether or not something is rape has nothing to do with morality and everything to do with technicality: did you get permission or not?
You can argue that you balance the moral scales by paying a victim you've assaulted, but that doesn't really cancel out whether or not you assaulted them.
Like lets say you take a girl, rape her, but give her 50 or 500 bucks or something. Whatever the going rate is for a girl of that type. Is it really rape since you paid for a service?
Alex if I'm willing to give a guy permission to stomp on my foot in exchange for 500 dollars, that doesn't mean that if a guy comes up and stomps on my foot and then gives me 500 dollars that he didn't just assault me.
Even if I have a history of selling foot-stomping rights to dozens of guys this doesn't mean I'm obligated to do that at any given moment, or that I've given permission in advance.
I'd have to have a sign giving consent like "anybody is free to stomp on my foot whenever so long as you pay me 500 within 5 minutes, if I don't receive 500 on by minute 6 you assaulted me and I press charges"
You could argue that if I end up accepting those 500 dollar post-surprise-stomp offers that I'm offering some sort of retroactive pseudo-permission, of course, but that doesn't actually change the nature of the prior event.
Walking out the door with an item is shoplifting. Paying for an item when you walk out the door is not shoplifting.
False analogy: the item is marked for sale ahead of time, you expressed desire to sell to cashier, you paid in advance, THEN departed.
Try harder OP.
It is never rape. Women are conditioned to desire to be raped.
Wizcel the desire to be raped does not actually mean that sex without permission is non-rape.
Rape is an issue of whether or not permission was given for sex, not whether or not you desired/wanted or enjoyed the sex.
That's why they get into all kinds of freaky stuff WITH CHAD ONLY. WOMEN ONLY WANT TO BE RAPED BY CHAD.
I think some women want to be raped by non-chads just so they can press charges and get victim status TBH
like a chadlite betabuxer BF afterward will sweep them up and foid will compliment him on how much bigger her dick is than her rapist's was
True, but it's not really rape if it's from Chad.
if they communicate consent to Chad, it's not rape
if they do not communicate consent to Chad, then it IS rape, but they enjoy it
Chad generally knows foids will enjoy being raped by him which is why he doesn't have a particularly rapey mentality, since he's only raping on a technical basis (ignoring overt consent, affirming subvert consent) and not a thorough basis
Rape is simply defined as unwanted sex/forced to have sex
It is not a "simple" definition if you define it by two distant criteria.
"unwanted" and "forced" convey very different ideas
For example with prostitutes they "permit" sex (it's not rape) and it's not "forced", but they only "want" it in the sense of wanting the money they get in exchange for it, rather than any value inherent to the sex.
if she really wants it while saying no. I don't think that's rape.
I think it is rape: it's permission that matters here, not if some aspect of you is horny about it.
If some HIV+ hobo woman jumped her vagina around my cock and gave me AIDS, that's raping me, even if I get a boner and coom inside her and part of me loves it.
Regardless of how a big part of me wanted it and relished it, if I didn't give permission, it's rape.
It's rape if the foid didn't accept the money.
Accepting the money sends a bad message and sets a bad precedent: it makes it seem like you forgave the rapist, that you're okay with it.
But that doesn't really change the nature of what happened prior to the transaction.
Hell, even if you accepted money for sex ahead of time, it's still rape if you did it under duress.
Imagine if you went to jail because you were invisible to a foid on a bus and she sat in your lap and then noticed you and filed sekuhara charges and you're sentenced to 3 months.
Imagine then in the jail some 6'6" musclenigrafag comes up to you with a toothbrush-knife to your jugular and then whispers in your ear "hey fella how about you let me fuck your ass in exchange for a cigarette?"
I think a lot of us who aspire to survive (rather than exsanguinate) and enjoy our copes once free again might spread our cheeks (in b4 "better off dead" LARPers) and accept the cigarette to avoid angering the guy, but that would definitely be rape because of the threat from a deadly weapon and implied promise of force.
Only if shes a virgin or hasnt had sex outside a committed relationship before
me too: in a sense, a girl can only have sex once in her life, when she is a virgin
sex is when a male puts his penis flesh balls-deep into a female's vagina without any barriers in the way
the thing is: once a female has had a penis inside her unprotected, she ceases to be 100% female due to the gradual metamorphosis into a hermaphrodite via the phenomena of microchimerism
so basically fucking a non-virgin is fucking a herm and it's not even sex
since it's not sex to fuck herms, it can't technically be rape since rape must be sex
I guess this actually means gay rape doesn't exist since gay sex isn't actually sex, which is why we instead call it sodomy.
