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Or should an ethnic gymmax because having small arms,neck and shoulders is bad
What about gymmaxing to intimidate normies
What about gymmaxing to intimidate normies
No gym for your face buddy boyo
To get girls YES ITS A MEGA COPE.
Otherwise NO.
Otherwise NO.
Everything is cope
Do it
Only works if you aren't short.
My advice is that you should definitely exercise and get in good shape, but don't expect to ascend by doing that.
Everything in life is cope if your an incel. If you enjoy it do it if not fuck it
I mean, face, height, and neurotypicality are more important, but a man’s body is important.
pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Study Design and Participants:
Visual perception of male body attractiveness - PMC
Based on 69 scanned Chinese male subjects and 25 Caucasian male subjects, the present study showed that the volume height index (VHI) is the most important visual cue to male body attractiveness of young Chinese viewers among the many body ...
pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Study Design and Participants:
- Subjects: The study analyzed 3D scans of 69 Chinese males and 25 Caucasian males, with a range of body mass indexes (BMIs).
- Raters: 43 young Hong Kong Chinese individuals (20 males, 23 females) rated the attractiveness of these scanned images.
- Methodology:
- 3D scans were used to create rotating 3D wire-frame images.
- Raters used a 9-point Likert scale to rate attractiveness.
- The study focused on the relationship between attractiveness ratings and various body measurements and ratios.
- Statistical analyses included correlation analyses, multiple linear regression, and principal component analysis (PCA).
- Volume Height Index (VHI):
- The VHI (total body volume divided by height) was found to be the most significant predictor of male body attractiveness.
- It accounted for approximately 73% of the variance in attractiveness ratings.
- There was an optimal VHI: around 17.6 lm⁻² for female raters and 18.0 lm⁻² for male raters.
- Attractiveness decreased as VHI deviated from these optimal values.
- Waist-to-Hip Ratio (WHR):
- An optimal WHR of approximately 0.8 was identified.
- Deviations from this optimal WHR negatively impacted perceived attractiveness.
- An optimal WHR of approximately 0.8 was identified.
- Waist-to-Chest Ratio (WCR) and Body Mass Index (BMI):
- WCR had a stronger negative correlation with attractiveness ratings than BMI. Meaning, a smaller waist to chest ratio was more attractive.
- Rater Differences:
- While male and female raters generally agreed on attractiveness, females tended to have slightly higher expectations.
- Other Body Proportions:
- Beyond VHI, other body proportions, such as the relative positions of body parts and the shapes of the waist, chest, and hips, also played a role in perceived attractiveness.
- Principal component analysis revealed that factors related to the appropriateness of overall body proportions, the distribution of horizontal dimensions, and the proportions of the lower torso contributed to attractiveness ratings.
- Beyond VHI, other body proportions, such as the relative positions of body parts and the shapes of the waist, chest, and hips, also played a role in perceived attractiveness.
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Yes unless you plan to thugmaxx with those muscles you build.
It's healthy, so I recommend
Being a skinnycel is one of the main reasons girls rejected me in HS
@nogymforyourface
Im still incel but At least I'm strong af 
No one have balls to bother me now
No one have balls to bother me now
No gym for your narrow ass clavicles
Size?
Yes, it's a cope. Unfortunately. One of the RP's main strengths is it.
no gym for your shitty bicep insertions
It is a good cope
I’ll rather be in good condition than a fat nigga or skinny nigga
Also I will have less health issue in future with good diet and exercise
I’ll rather be in good condition than a fat nigga or skinny nigga
Also I will have less health issue in future with good diet and exercise
Just know that my bideltoid is about 51 52 cms. Just the clavicles would be 38cms or 14.9 inches
Don't search an excuse and just go.
Sorry, I am not well versed in the whole clavicle discussion but, what does it make you look like? Is it bad to have that?
Makes me look like a narrow standing rectangle. Narrow shoulders. No v taper unless shirtless and flexing with lats pushed out.
Do you have any pictures that resemble it? Is it like super skinny? Or, is it something with muscles?
A little bit of muscle. But mostly skinny. Am about 150-155lbs
Do you mean something like this? Or bigger?
Yeah like this. I'm closer to the guy on the left. Have a bit higher body fat but still with abs.Do you mean something like this? Or bigger?
That is brutal. How do you measure your clavicle or bidetolid thingy anyway? I wanna see what mine is?
Interesting. So shoulder to shoulder length? If you measure the back, is the clavicle the same?
Yes, it's cope. You're just stressing your body out. Foids don't care about muscles either.
if you don't use a beam caliper it won't be accurate at all, also biacromial says more than bideltoid
Aren't they the same? The Biacromial and BIdeltoid? Why do you have to use a Beam Caliper?
biacromial is bone length only, bideltoid gets bigger with more muscle
because your chest is not straight, if you place the measure tape on your chest or back, it's gonna be bent and show longer than it is
Being skinny is actually a more than truecelish trait (you literally need to have a gigachad face or maybe a 6’6 height or something to make out for it).Being skinny is a yotta truecel trait because you literally look like a child, especially if you’re short too.
I see. So it's from the top and not the back or front?
Can you recommend me a brand or something? Or a specific type?
As long as your not fat or scrawny as hell then the gym doesn't really do much to pull women. Most girls don't really care about muscles.
don't bother, build something similar yourself. Like get a measuring stick and attach 2 pencils with tape or something.
Also shoulders still grow a lot between 20-25 and can keep growing till 31 in some people
Sounds like a good idea, actually. How do I get in the right sitting position?
Sorry, lol. I thought that you might be pretty familiar with this considering I've never heard of the bicromial thing before
Thank you man!
I mean, face, height, and neurotypicality are more important, but a man’s body is important.
Visual perception of male body attractiveness - PMC
Based on 69 scanned Chinese male subjects and 25 Caucasian male subjects, the present study showed that the volume height index (VHI) is the most important visual cue to male body attractiveness of young Chinese viewers among the many body ...
Study Design and Participants:
Key Findings:
- Subjects: The study analyzed 3D scans of 69 Chinese males and 25 Caucasian males, with a range of body mass indexes (BMIs).
- Raters: 43 young Hong Kong Chinese individuals (20 males, 23 females) rated the attractiveness of these scanned images.
- Methodology:
- 3D scans were used to create rotating 3D wire-frame images.
- Raters used a 9-point Likert scale to rate attractiveness.
- The study focused on the relationship between attractiveness ratings and various body measurements and ratios.
- Statistical analyses included correlation analyses, multiple linear regression, and principal component analysis (PCA).
- Volume Height Index (VHI):
- The VHI (total body volume divided by height) was found to be the most significant predictor of male body attractiveness.
- It accounted for approximately 73% of the variance in attractiveness ratings.
- There was an optimal VHI: around 17.6 lm⁻² for female raters and 18.0 lm⁻² for male raters.
- Attractiveness decreased as VHI deviated from these optimal values.
- Waist-to-Hip Ratio (WHR):
- An optimal WHR of approximately 0.8 was identified.
- Deviations from this optimal WHR negatively impacted perceived attractiveness.
- Waist-to-Chest Ratio (WCR) and Body Mass Index (BMI):
- WCR had a stronger negative correlation with attractiveness ratings than BMI. Meaning, a smaller waist to chest ratio was more attractive.
- Rater Differences:
- While male and female raters generally agreed on attractiveness, females tended to have slightly higher expectations.
- Other Body Proportions:
- Beyond VHI, other body proportions, such as the relative positions of body parts and the shapes of the waist, chest, and hips, also played a role in perceived attractiveness.
- Principal component analysis revealed that factors related to the appropriateness of overall body proportions, the distribution of horizontal dimensions, and the proportions of the lower torso contributed to attractiveness ratings.
This study from The Lancet explores how simple physical characteristics—Body Mass Index (BMI), Waist-to-Chest Ratio (WCR), and Waist-to-Hip Ratio (WHR)—influence perceptions of attractiveness in both men and women.
1. Female Attractiveness:
- BMI is the strongest predictor, explaining over 74% of the variance in attractiveness ratings.
- WCR and WHR are insignificant in influencing female attractiveness.
- Both male and female raters consistently preferred a BMI around 22–23, commonly associated with health and fertility.
- Evolutionary psychology suggests that this preference aligns with biological cues of reproductive potential.
2. Male Attractiveness:
To explore if similar factors apply to male attractiveness, the study replicated the female attractiveness experiment but used male body images and female raters.- Participants:
- 30 female undergraduates (average age 20.6, SD 1.4) rated color images of 50 men in front view.
- Heads were obscured to focus solely on body proportions.
- Measurements Taken:
- Waist-to-Chest Ratio (WCR) — a measure of upper body shape.
- Waist-to-Hip Ratio (WHR) — a measure of lower body shape.
- Body Mass Index (BMI) — overall body size.
- Image Selection:
- Initial measurements were taken from a pool of 214 young men to determine the average ranges.
- From this pool, 50 images were selected representing a spread of ±1.7 SD from the mean for BMI, WCR, and WHR.
- Images were shown in a random order, and participants familiarized themselves with the full set before rating.
- Key Results:
- WCR emerged as the strongest predictor of male attractiveness, explaining 56% of the variance.
- BMI added 12.7% to the explanatory power.
- Findings Illustrated:
- Even small changes in WCR significantly impacted attractiveness ratings.
- Lower WCR values (broad chest, narrow waist) correlated with higher attractiveness, emphasizing the appeal of an “inverted triangle” body shape.
- This body shape aligns with evolutionary cues of physical strength, fitness, and dominance.
3. Evolutionary Implications:
- For Female Attractiveness:
- Men focus on size (BMI) as an indicator of health and reproductive potential.
- For Male Attractiveness:
- Women prioritize shape (WCR) over size, with the “inverted triangle” physique signaling strength and protection capabilities.
4. Conclusions:
- Attractiveness cues differ by gender:
- Female bodies are judged mainly by BMI (size).
- Male bodies are judged mainly by WCR (shape).
- The study supports the idea that simple physical metrics heavily influence perceptions of attractiveness and align with evolutionary-based preferences.
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