Serious Is getting an erotic massage at a licenced Asian Brothel immoral? (In my country with a licence it isn't illegal). I am a 21 year old virgin.

[JimMilton]

I want to know, as I have never had any sort of sexual contact or activity with a woman yet and would like to.

Spoiler: Revenge vent in the moment.

Also, not to seem like a vengeful loser, but if someone I am related to hurt my mother and myself with a prolonged family court case and other bullshit, and before the case, living with them was awful, many years ago, and hasn't been in my life for a decade, haven't lived with them for almost 20 years, and they have cheated me out of multiple relationships with family members for 20 years until one of them was unwell and wanted to see me then died 2 months later (thankfully we got to visit often and I have a relationship with the rest of the family now but so much time was lost because of their fucking asshole behaviour at the beginning of my life, and even when they haven't been in my life for 11 years they have still fucked shit up for me, even though my mum is married to my dad now I still have dreams where he comes up! I don't want to think about him and I don't during awake hours but now he's back in my mind! I know they have a brain injury and chornic pain and injuries from an accident as a young man and I feel very sorry for him but he is cognizant enough to manipulate and trick and do all sorts of bullshit, those years ago. I want my revenge and I want it very soon.

 

[Adolf Kitler]

Dont pay for escorts or services from foids. Get a sex doll instead

 

[Cincel]

Dont pay for escorts or services from foids. Get a sex doll instead

 

[SrutalBeggs]

Go for it if you want to, but IMO its lame since you don't get "real love" and it's only a temporary release of pleasure.

But that's just my opinion. I've personally made up my mind that I will only lose my virginity to another virgin, who cares for me and actually wants me to exist. Though, I doubt that will ever happen, but its fun to dream about.

But you may have different opinions, so go for it if you really need it.

 

[ToBurble&Pine]

I still have dreams where he comes up

who is he

 

[JimMilton]

who is he

My biological father. Not my dad who I live with and my mum.

 

[JimMilton]

Dont pay for escorts or services from foids. Get a sex doll instead

I live at home with my dad and mum so I cannot.

 

[JimMilton]

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Go for it if you want to, but IMO its lame since you don't get "real love" and it's only a temporary release of pleasure.

But that's just my opinion. I've personally made up my mind that I will only lose my virginity to another virgin, who cares for me and actually wants me to exist. Though, I doubt that will ever happen, but its fun to dream about.

But you may have different opinions, so go for it if you really need it.

Is Getting a handjob make you not a virgin anymore is a good question. I know I’m not a good man for a woman so I wouldn’t put her through sex or a relationship with me, so the handy from a escort at the licence brothel seemed like a good idea but I don’t know.

 

[justuseless]

No such thing as immoral

 

[SrutalBeggs]

Is Getting a handjob make you not a virgin anymore is a good question.

I think it does. Foid logic says that anal sex means that they don't lose their virginity, which, obviously is wrong. Extending this to us, means getting a handjob also means losing your virginity.

But you still would be considered an incel tho, since escortcelling != ascending.

 

[JimMilton]

No such thing as immoral

I think there is sex work is exploitative of women no, especially Asian?

 

[JimMilton]

I think it does. Foid logic says that anal sex means that they don't lose their virginity, which, obviously is wrong. Extending this to us, means getting a handjob also means losing your virginity.

But you still would be considered an incel tho, since escortcelling != ascending.

Eacortcellijg isnt ascending? A handjob yeah seems like it losing it now that I think about it. I do want it badly though.

 

[justuseless]

I think there is sex work is exploitative of women no, especially Asian?

Exploiting women is a good thing.

 

[JimMilton]

Exploiting women is a good thing.

Wouldn’t our mothers be disappointed no?

 

[justuseless]

Wouldn’t our mothers be disappointed no?

They're already disappointed in us for being ugly losers

 

[JimMilton]

They're already disappointed in us for being ugly losers

Fair enough. Well I live at home with my mother and dad can I even really go?

 

[justuseless]

Fair enough. Well I live at home with my mother and dad can I even really go?

Nigga why you asking me

 

[JimMilton]

Nigga why you asking me

Well you’re a homie on here ain’t you?

 

[keithbauhaus]

I'd have a hard time giving money to a woman that uses her looks for financial gain (even if they perform lewd acts on you), but that's just me

 

[JimMilton]

I'd have a hard time giving money to a woman that uses her looks for financial gain (even if they perform lewd acts on you), but that's just me

I don’t know, no other women are available to give me a handjob, maybe if I found a woman in her 60s she may but I don’t know.

 

[keithbauhaus]

I don’t know, no other women are available to give me a handjob, maybe if I found a woman in her 60s she may but I don’t know.

If it were me I'd feel better about not adding fuel to the fire that's the sex work industry. I have decided that I'll die a virgin before enabling that type of behavior.

It's tough when you're horny tho, I get that. Just remember that the bitch is taking advantage of you. They're ruthless

 

[JimMilton]

If it were me I'd feel better not adding fuel to the fire that's the sex work industry. I have decided that I'll die a virgin before enabling that type of behavior.

It's tough when you're horny tho, I get that. Just remember that the bitch is taking advantage of you. They're ruthless

Noted man, I won’t go down that road. Thank you.

 

[TooSomething]

Eacortcellijg isnt ascending? A handjob yeah seems like it losing it now that I think about it. I do want it badly though.

It isn't ascending, not even just for sex, because without your money, none of these whores would want to have sex with you.

They want your money, not you. You could go up to any non-prostitute on the street and offer her money for sex.
If she agreed that would obviousely also make her a prostitute at that point, but again, she would not want you, but the money.

Yet if you just exist and foids notice you and throw themselves at you and then you have sex with one, then it was voluntary, by them. That is when you've ascended.
And usually, when a foid wants to fuck with you, she'd also be agreeable to morr, as in a relationship.

 

[TooSomething]

I used to be an escortceller, and from my experience it is not worth it.

But you'd have to figure it out yourself.

Even if everything was awesome, I don't want to pay for something that others get for free.

 

[JimMilton]

It isn't ascending, not even just for sex, because without your money, none of these whores would want to have sex with you.

They want your money, not you. You could go up to any non-prostitute on the street and offer her money for sex.
If she agreed that would obviousely also make her a prostitute at that point, but again, she would not want you, but the money.

Yet if you just exist and foids notice you and throw themselves at you and then you have sex with one, then it was voluntary, by them. That is when you've ascended.
And usually, when a foid wants to fuck with you, she'd also be agreeable to morr, as in a relationship.

You’re right. Thanks for setting me straight. I feel bad for even considering it, thanks for reminding me of what is true.

 

[JimMilton]

I used to be an escortceller, and from my experience it is not worth it.

But you'd have to figure it out yourself.

Even if everything was awesome, I don't want to pay for something that others get for free.

Fair enough, that makes sense.