Discussion Is ascending easier in high school, or harder?

[stranger]

Obviously, ascending before or after high school takes the chances for most truecels from zero to zero. We were always outcasts.
But that's not everyone's situation.

For me I think it would've been easier to ascend during high school, due to a variety of factors. Life would've also been less brutal
The social environment in high school is very tightly knit, depending on your school. Usually anyone can fall into a friend group, and it can help with social circlemaxxing.
In college, people aren't forced into the same social circle anymore, leaving people more isolated. Communicating with females was easierthat way, and I talked with way more girls during high school than right now.

Another reason is that I think is teens in high school have lower standards. This may sound crazy, but I think it was true. High school girls don't really care about starting a family or having children, just having fun, so she might have lower standards. They haven't got into the eugenics selection yet.

However, ascending in high school could also be very hard if you were an autist. If you did something embarrasing, everyone would know for years, lowering your SMV.

 

[Skelly]

obviously in high school

Contrary to what the forum says, most of the girls there are virgins + they dont care about money

 

[Dregster]

Obviously, ascending before or after high school takes the chances for most truecels from zero to zero. We were always outcasts.
But that's not everyone's situation.

For me I think it would've been easier to ascend during high school, due to a variety of factors. Life would've also been less brutal
The social environment in high school is very tightly knit, depending on your school. Usually anyone can fall into a friend group, and it can help with social circlemaxxing.
In college, people aren't forced into the same social circle anymore, leaving people more isolated. Communicating with females was easierthat way, and I talked with way more girls during high school than right now.

Another reason is that I think is teens in high school have lower standards. This may sound crazy, but I think it was true. High school girls don't really care about starting a family or having children, just having fun, so she might have lower standards. They haven't got into the eugenics selection yet.

However, ascending in high school could also be very hard if you were an autist. If you did something embarrasing, everyone would know for years, lowering your SMV.

It's supposed to be easier.

You arent expected to have shit when you're 15 yrs old and foids arent as materialistic and demanding in their teen years compared to their adult counterpart.

 

[stranger]

obviously in high school

Contrary to what the forum says, most of the girls there are virgins + they dont care about money

Only if NT though, if you showed any signs of norm deviance you were outcasted.
However, even many outcasts in my school had their own circles in band or other clubs.

My school was surprisingly tolerant though, people were usually chill with each other and never started much shit. Cant say the same about our younger kids though... complete animals.

 

[stranger]

It's supposed to be easier.

You arent expected to have shit when you're 15 yrs old and foids arent as materialistic and demanding in their teen years compared to their adult counterpart.

Can't agree more. Life was just easier back then. I know many users here were ostracized in high school. But I just want to go back. Things were simpler, and I wasn't as stressed.

 

[UglyVirgin]

If you don’t get laid in high school, you won’t get laid in college.

 

[stranger]

If you don’t get laid in high school, you won’t get laid in college.

 

[lowz1r]

If you don’t get laid in high school, you won’t get laid in college.

This. After I finished high school as a KHHDV, I expected to have better luck in college but it was significantly worse and i even got rejected and made a complete fool out of.

 

[Castaway]

HS

 

[Lazyandtalentless]

If you don’t get laid in high school, you won’t get laid in college.

 

[UglyVirgin]

This. After I finished high school as a KHHDV, I expected to have better luck in college but it was significantly worse and i even got rejected and made a complete fool out of.

Me too. I was still coping in my first year trying to approach foids and I still cringe looking back at these days.

 

[TheDragon]

I tried and failed. Also, I heard one foid said she dated a 19 year old guy when she was 14.

 

[stranger]

I tried and failed. Also, I heard one foid said she dated a 19 year old guy when she was 14.

How did that even happen. Most college people are fenced off from high school.

 

[KILLEVERYLASTCURRY]

It's definitely easier. All those "muhh I saw an ugly guy with a hot girl" stories are only true in high school.

Statusmaxxing in your high school years is as easy as just being popular. Now, that's of course no easy feat (and an arguably impossible one if you have the ugly + non-NT combo), but it's definitely much easier than statusmaxxing in the real world, which means getting famous

 

[NocturnalCel]

If I weren’t so autistic and awkward, I probably could have ascended in high school. My fuck face brother did.

 

[VideoGameCoper]

It's supposed to be easier.

You arent expected to have shit when you're 15 yrs old and foids arent as materialistic and demanding in their teen years compared to their adult counterpart.

Yeah. Back in high school girls didn’t care about money or status like adult ones. Back then all that mattered was that she could you hit and somewhat fun to date. So literally the only focus was about you and you’d get a relationship just for existing.

Now, even at my age which is around 20, women expect you to have some high paying job, and be of higher social status. It’s sad knowing that we missed the only time of pure love when we weren’t expected to do much

 

[stranger]

It's definitely easier. All those "muhh I saw an ugly guy with a hot girl" stories are only true in high school.

Statusmaxxing in your high school years is as easy as just being popular. Now, that's of course no easy feat (and an arguably impossible one if you have the ugly + non-NT combo), but it's definitely much easier than statusmaxxing in the real world, which means getting famous

Exactly. The playing field has become way too large to handle

 

[Dregster]

Yeah. Back in high school girls didn’t care about money or status like adult ones. Back then all that mattered was that she could you hit and somewhat fun to date. So literally the only focus was about you and you’d get a relationship just for existing.

Now, even at my age which is around 20, women expect you to have some high paying job, and be of higher social status. It’s sad knowing that we missed the only time of pure love when we weren’t expected to do much

Foids at 20 are being courted by men literally twice your age, showing off his 2024 car, his own place etc etc it's over until you moneymaxx to be him in 20 years.

At 15, most foids dont even consider the idea of getting in some older guy's car. Not saying it doesnt happen, it's just not as rampant as it is when they become a legal age for adult men.

 

[stranger]

Yeah. Back in high school girls didn’t care about money or status like adult ones. Back then all that mattered was that she could you hit and somewhat fun to date. So literally the only focus was about you and you’d get a relationship just for existing.

Now, even at my age which is around 20, women expect you to have some high paying job, and be of higher social status. It’s sad knowing that we missed the only time of pure love when we weren’t expected to do much

So you're saying that Career actually does matter as much as looks?

 

[VideoGameCoper]

Foids at 20 are being courted by men literally twice your age, showing off his 2024 car, his own place etc etc it's over until you moneymaxx to be him in 20 years.

At 15, most foids dont even consider the idea of getting in some older guy's car. Not saying it doesnt happen, it's just not as rampant as it is when they become a legal age for adult men.

Yep, by 20 they are already used up by many guys and are bitter and not as feminine and docile. At younger ages, they are less ran through and have lower standards.

Less societal brainwashing went into them too. It’s brutal that at 20, you’re competing against not only the true mogger men your own age, but the richer men of older ages. How the fuck am I gonna stand a chance as a KHHV who never even had a date against men way better looking than me or men that are way richer?

My mother always likes to say that I’ll find someone eventually. Just an empty platitude, although she means well. But seriously, HOW am I gonna get a relationship now or later if it didn’t happen in the easiest years? My looks are already worse at 20 than 18 due to my sleep issues and other health issues, and I fall further behind the expected experience level that women expect.

My mother doesn’t seem to realize that women are disgusted by 20 year old man who is still KHHV

 

[VideoGameCoper]

So you're saying that Career actually does matter as much as looks?

No, not for genuine attraction. But women love money and they will get with some rich 40-50 year old lawyer just for his money even though they feel no attraction to him.

But they’ll cheat on him with younger and better looking dudes. So looks is the most important thing imo since it gets you real attraction and you don’t have to do a thing

 

[stranger]

No, not for genuine attraction. But women love money and they will get with some rich 40-50 year old lawyer just for his money even though they feel no attraction to him.

But they’ll cheat on him with younger and better looking dudes. So looks is the most important thing imo since it gets you real attraction and you don’t have to do a thing

I think that you need the whole package these days.
Could a poor unsuccessful Chad hold down a long term relationship with a Stacy who is in the upper echelons?

 

[VideoGameCoper]

I think that you need the whole package these days.
Could a poor unsuccessful Chad hold down a long term relationship with a Stacy who is in the upper echelons?

Maybe not a high social status Stacy, but I guarantee HTB and MTB women would LTR poor Chad.

But even broke Chad can effortlessly get hookups with high tier women. And broke chads are rare since mogger looking men can get better jobs and social networks far easier.

Look at and homeless man, and almost all of them are Sub5s. I bet you’ll never see a homeless Chad in your life.

It’s just how looks privilege you in other areas of life too

 

[Todd Thundercock]

I've seen some homeless Chads, but they're all in relationships with homeless women. They are generally subhuman, though.

 

[stranger]

I've seen some homeless Chads

They are generally subhuman, though.

?????

Maybe not a high social status Stacy, but I guarantee HTB and MTB women would LTR poor Chad.

But even broke Chad can effortlessly get hookups with high tier women. And broke chads are rare since mogger looking men can get better jobs and social networks far easier.

Look at and homeless man, and almost all of them are Sub5s. I bet you’ll never see a homeless Chad in your life.

It’s just how looks privilege you in other areas of life too

Even Chad still has to compete at the end of the day. No one is safe.

 

[Todd Thundercock]

I meant homeless are generally ugly subhuman trash, but there are some attractive people in there.

Most cases I've seen of homeless are due to drugs, and those people are still social.

 

[VideoGameCoper]

Even Chad still has to compete at the end of the day. No one is safe.

Not much though. Real Chads are almost always gonna be safe. Look at Jeremy Meeks

 

[NocturnalCel]

No, not for genuine attraction. But women love money and they will get with some rich 40-50 year old lawyer just for his money even though they feel no attraction to him.

But they’ll cheat on him with younger and better looking dudes. So looks is the most important thing imo since it gets you real attraction and you don’t have to do a thing

Most lawyers are just pathetic wagecucks.

 

[VideoGameCoper]

Most lawyers are just pathetic wagecucks.

And they are rich and statusmaxxed so can do lots of stuff you can’t.

 

[stranger]

Most lawyers are just pathetic wagecucks.

And they are rich and statusmaxxed so can do lots of stuff you can’t.

 

[Abacaxi14]

Idk man, I truly dont.

 

[VideoGameCoper]

I’m a JD. I passed the bar last year and have been a wagecuck at a jewish law firm since my 2L year. My job is mind numbingly boring and it pays just enough to have a decent lifestyle in a big shit lib city that I’ll never be able to leave.

What is a JD?

 

[NocturnalCel]

What is a JD?

Juris Doctor aka a lawyer. There are a lot of job openings in the field of law, but the big law firms are increasingly harder to get into. Especially, with this jewish DEI crap. You can have a decent life as a lawyer, but don’t expect to be able to ascend from it. Also, more foids are graduating law school than men now, and they’ve made a lot of the curriculum insufferably woke.

 

[VideoGameCoper]

Juris Doctor aka a lawyer. There are a lot of job openings in the field of law, but the big law firms are increasingly harder to get into. Especially, with this jewish DEI crap. You can have a descent life as a lawyer, but don’t expect to be able to ascend from it. Also, more foids are graduating law school than men now, and they’ve made a lot of the curriculum insufferably woke.

No way you work that job bruh. If you actually are then that's hella impressive, but I wouldn't post that much here since IT cucks might try to doxx you somehow

 

[NocturnalCel]

No way you work that job bruh. If you actually are then that's hella impressive, but I wouldn't post that much here since IT cucks might try to doxx you somehow

I don’t care anymore tbh. My life is miserable. I’m the bitch of 5 jews 2 of which are foids. I’m giving myself till age 30 to moneymax, but I’m not seeing it happening anytime soon

 

[VideoGameCoper]

I don’t care anymore tbh. My life is miserable. I’m the bitch of 5 jews 2 of which are foids. I’m giving myself till age 30 to moneymax, but I’m not seeing it happening anytime soon

Over

 

[Starfish Vs Koala]

easier

 

[Rapistcel]

Obviously, ascending before or after high school takes the chances for most truecels from zero to zero. We were always outcasts.
But that's not everyone's situation.

For me I think it would've been easier to ascend during high school, due to a variety of factors. Life would've also been less brutal
The social environment in high school is very tightly knit, depending on your school. Usually anyone can fall into a friend group, and it can help with social circlemaxxing.
In college, people aren't forced into the same social circle anymore, leaving people more isolated. Communicating with females was easierthat way, and I talked with way more girls during high school than right now.

Another reason is that I think is teens in high school have lower standards. This may sound crazy, but I think it was true. High school girls don't really care about starting a family or having children, just having fun, so she might have lower standards. They haven't got into the eugenics selection yet.

However, ascending in high school could also be very hard if you were an autist. If you did something embarrasing, everyone would know for years, lowering your SMV.

Harder, in high school you can get bullied, be low status and become giga high inhibition. At least for me it would be even harder in school because I was a social outcast

 

[Rapistcel]

Obviously, ascending before or after high school takes the chances for most truecels from zero to zero. We were always outcasts.
But that's not everyone's situation.

For me I think it would've been easier to ascend during high school, due to a variety of factors. Life would've also been less brutal
The social environment in high school is very tightly knit, depending on your school. Usually anyone can fall into a friend group, and it can help with social circlemaxxing.
In college, people aren't forced into the same social circle anymore, leaving people more isolated. Communicating with females was easierthat way, and I talked with way more girls during high school than right now.

Another reason is that I think is teens in high school have lower standards. This may sound crazy, but I think it was true. High school girls don't really care about starting a family or having children, just having fun, so she might have lower standards. They haven't got into the eugenics selection yet.

However, ascending in high school could also be very hard if you were an autist. If you did something embarrasing, everyone would know for years, lowering your SMV.

I don't know where are you from but here girls use to lose their virginity when they are 12-14

 

[joocel52]

if youre not ugly/non nt, its easier - people are still less jaded, less skeptical, theres less competition and women arent as selective

 

[Neucher The Kanga]

In the past sure but I wouldn't underestimate the competition in highschools in 2024. Good luck on ascending if you're getting mogged.

 

[stranger]

Harder, in high school you can get bullied, be low status and become giga high inhibition. At least for me it would be even harder in school because I was a social outcast

Kind of piggybacking on your bullying point, embarrassing moments that happen also have more impact. Like doing bad in sports or forgetting something, everyone will shit on you for until the week ends. And embarrassing shit ALWAYS happens when you are an incel for some reason.

 

[Apex.Koala]

Objectively, it's easier as men are not expected to have ressources of their own and have less responsibility during teenage.

But from my own experience:

Obviously, ascending before or after high school takes the chances for most truecels from zero to zero

 

[CEO of Simps]

easier

 

[cooked in life]

It was supposed to be easier in high school. But I'm autistic as fuck and had no friends all throughout high school.

 

[MisanthropicMemes]

It was supposed to be easier in high school. But I'm autistic as fuck and had no friends all throughout high school.

 

[AlexDelarge]

obviously in high school

Contrary to what the forum says, most of the girls there are virgins + they dont care about money

 

[AlexDelarge]

Normies ascend in higschool/college. When exposed to many less experienced sluts. After that it becomes very very hard.

 

[DarkStar]

Objectively speaking, it should be "easier" & if anyone has to ever even ask this, they're likely fucked to some degree.

In HS, everyones standards are lower, the pool is much more limited, and you also can possibly "just be first" max out here

 

[incel4life]

High School is easier for the simple fact that you are put in an environment where half the people around you are breeding aged girls. After high school I never got such an opportunity again.

The flip side is that in high school you might not be experienced enough with women to be able to take advantage of the opportunity. So you are given this golden opportunity that you can't take advantage of. It sucks.