is anyone else above average socially but incel STRICTLY down to LOOKS?

[FACEandLMS]

I feel like the odd one out here.

Threads like this abound and make r/IncelTears look like they're 100% right:

https://incels.is/Thread-Looksmaxed-from-4-10-to-6-10-but-turns-out-I-am-mentalcel

[font=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]Man, I am a damn mentalcel. Depressed+Socially retarded. My therapist thought I had autism, but after testing it turns out I just have total shit social skills lmao.[/font]

[font=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]I even had girls flirt with me on 4 occasions the past 2 years. The first 2 times my mind froze and I got the fuck outta there. The last 2 times I ignored their advances, because I felt completely unmotivated to even bother and still felt inferior cuz of lack of social and sexual experience.[/font]
[font=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]I get about 2 matches a day on Tinder/Badoo, even went on a date but the girl told me 'there was no connection' after the date and didn't want to continue. [/font]

Most guys here who list "mentalceldom" or "lack of social skills" as ONE of the reasons why they are incel grossly underestimate them as potentially being the biggest contributing factor in their inceldom.

"I'm incel but also a mentalcel too"

No. You're a mentalcel which is your main problem. Stop coping. There are guys around your looks level who have gfs. 

"Yeah but every single one of them gets cheated on. I know this because I never leave the basement and am aware of these things"

While inceldom can impair social skills, no one here is ugly enough to the point where they can't make male friends, or at least be able to string a sentence together IRL.

Is anyone else here like me:

- has friends/social circle?

- while possibly a little shy or self-conscious at times, is sometimes able to act normie, confident, dominant, like "just one of the guys".

- has actually approached women IRL AS WELL AS ONLINE and been rejected - EVEN AFTER LONG, NONAWKWARD CONVERSATIONS. I am not referring to muttering a few words of autism to a woman then bailing.

- is not NEET.

- makes eye-contact with people

- has somewhat normal hobbies, i.e. isn't some anime weirdo (some Naruto, and mainstream stuff is okay); doesn't play videogames 8 hours a day.

Am I the odd one out here?

A lot of people here are like: "I am only a 6, that's why I'm incel. I have full blown autism so I need to looksmax up to a 7 so that my autism won't affect my dating life. My looks are holding me back. You need to be an 8/10 male model to get a gf and not be cheated on constantly. Only lachowski and brad pitt get loving-sex and not pity-sex". HOLY COPE.

TLDR: "I am an incel and a mentalcel" is COPE. You are using inceldom as a scapegoat for the REAL CAUSE OF YOUR INCELDOM which is your shitty brain, autism, lack of social skills, etc.

 

[VLÖ]

You're lucky, what can I say?

 

[RREEEEEEEEE]

I am. If I hadn't injured my nose aplenty I wouldn't have been incel. My nose is disgusting looking. It brings me down 3 points, from a 5 to a 2. It's huge and crooked. I will never have somebody interested in me. Feelsbadman.jpg

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To add insult to injury, like, literally, girls never say "Ew, he has NCT/brown eyes/dark skin/a weak lower third," but they ALWAYS say "Ew, look at his nose." A huge, crooked nose is a huge deal breaker for 99.9% of girls, but if you have money or celeb status then you can make up for it. But if you have neither, it's over.

 

[dr-problematic]

- has friends/social circle? no

- while possibly a little shy or self-conscious at times, is sometimes able to act normie, confident, dominant, like "just one of the guys". yes, i can act like one easily.

- has actually approached women IRL AS WELL AS ONLINE and been rejected - EVEN AFTER LONG, NONAWKWARD CONVERSATIONS. I am not referring to muttering a few words of autism to a woman then bailing. - did approach, couldnt move it towards sex.

- is not NEET. - am neet cuz life has no sense if u dont have gf/friends

- makes eye-contact with people. -actually a lot of times when im on subway or public transport and people look at mei try to stare them back untill the drop the eye contanct. 

- has somewhat normal hobbies, i.e. isn't some anime weirdo (some Naruto, and mainstream stuff is okay); doesn't play videogames 8 hours a day. -yeah, i do have normal hobbies, but rarely engage in them due to depression induced by life.

 

[Deleted member 1617]

- has friends/social circle? -  yes uni friends, old school friends, friends from my neighbour hood

- while possibly a little shy or self-conscious at times, is sometimes able to act normie, confident, dominant, like "just one of the guys". - yes

- has actually approached women IRL AS WELL AS ONLINE and been rejected - EVEN AFTER LONG, NONAWKWARD CONVERSATIONS. I am not referring to muttering a few words of autism to a woman then bailing. - yes

- is not NEET. - studying STEMcel- going into well paid profession after graduating

- makes eye-contact with people - yes

- has somewhat normal hobbies, i.e. isn't some anime weirdo (some Naruto, and mainstream stuff is okay); doesn't play videogames 8 hours a day.  - studying

yeh its difficult being a jugeared 5'6" curry. You are regarded as subhuman in a white majority country.

 

[FACEandLMS]

You're lucky, what can I say?

You can be honest and not blame your looks so much.

 

[VLÖ]

You can be honest and not blame your looks so much.

I'm ugly and socially inept. Just because you got blessed with amazing social skills doesn't mean we all did.

 

[modus_coperandi]

I don't know how you were even capable of maintaining or improving your social skills. After being an outcast long enough they will necessarily go to shit eventually and you will lose interest in everything that once defined you as person. I haven't always been this way, it's merely just cause and effect.

 

[Incel_Because_Short]

Yes. I'm socially just like you but I'm 5'5" and not thst good looking. The end result is that I get the friendzone treatment often because I'm just not that attractive.

 

[Bushladen008]

FACEandLMS has good social skills because he's a tall blackguy with a nice voice. Short people with awful voices are not welcomed in social circles.

 

[whogivesafucc]

- has friends/social circle? 1 friend, non-existent social circle

- while possibly a little shy or self-conscious at times, is sometimes able to act normie, confident, dominant, like "just one of the guys". Absolutely not

- has actually approached women IRL AS WELL AS ONLINE and been rejected - EVEN AFTER LONG, NONAWKWARD CONVERSATIONS. I am not referring to muttering a few words of autism to a woman then bailing. No

- is not NEET. Yes

- makes eye-contact with people No

- has somewhat normal hobbies, i.e. isn't some anime weirdo (some Naruto, and mainstream stuff is okay); doesn't play videogames 8 hours a day. I don't like anime shit or any of that, but I am a huge video game nerd

 

[NekoStance]

How the hell can you be successful socially if you are ugly?

You're telling me you're friends with a bunch of other ugly ppl right?

 

[asdf1234]

I'm don't think I am socially retarded but I don't have any friends.

Maybe it does mean I am socially retarded though.

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How the hell can you be successful socially if you are ugly?

You're telling me you're friends with a bunch of other ugly ppl right?

I wish I could find some other ugly people to be friends with, but too many people are bluepilled and ugly people tend to try to suck up to good looking people. I just can't be friends with cucks.

 

[Framecel222]

I'm starting to think I might be a mentalcel.

 

[asdf1234]

I'm starting to think I might be a mentalcel.

You were the only one who ever doubted you were to be honest.

Still a BROCEL though

 

[Solitarian_Walker]

I'm starting to think I might be a mentalcel.

Good. Admitting the problem is the first step towards healing.

 

[dr-problematic]

FACEandLMS has good social skills because he's a tall blackguy with a nice voice. Short people with awful voices are not welcomed in social circles.

wait, hes black? lol

 

[SlayOrDie]

Bad looks-->Social rejection-->Bad social skills and insecurities.

It's been proven so many times, idk how you can say mentalceldom is not a result of looks-based inceldom and being treated like shit cuz of looks halo. I have always had a social circle with fellow ugly incels and I can string sentences together just fine when I have to.

Even normies have insecurity barriers when they approach women. An incel that has been told and treated as disgusting by women his entire life has those insecurities tenfold.

 

[NegroKing]

I’m mentalcel and currycel. That’s basically incel.

 

[Deleted member 279]

There's no such thing as "social skills". Being an extroverted dipshit is not an objectively good thing that should be considered a skill of any sort.

 

[Q2CZ3p3]

I'm like you. I'm raw ugly, parts of me closing in on The Hills Have Eyes-level, but I'm able to compensate in social settings as long as it doesn't involve females in a dating capacity.

Not sure if it sucks harder than being geniune mentalcel tbh, but it has boiled it down to a 100% looks problem for sure.

 

[FACEandLMS]

I'm ugly and socially inept. Just because you got blessed with amazing social skills doesn't mean we all did.

Ah there we go. Red flags always go off when guys here say: "I'm a mentalcel but I'm also sub8/not goodlooking". How socially inept are we talking? Do you never have anything to say? Are you a nervous wreck when talking to fellow humans?

 

[CopingGymcel]

I have top tier social skills.

 

[VLÖ]

Ah there we go. Red flags always go off when guys here say: "I'm a mentalcel but I'm also sub8/not goodlooking". How socially inept are we talking? Do you never have anything to say? Are you a nervous wreck when talking to fellow humans?

Yeah, obviously.
I've been bullied a lot and I had very severe issues with my family. My dad was an alcoholic and my mother didn't give two shits about me.

 

[FACEandLMS]

I don't know how you were even capable of maintaining or improving your social skills. After being an outcast long enough they will necessarily go to shit eventually and you will lose interest in everything that once defined you as  person. I haven't always been this way, it's merely just cause and effect.

No doubt, being ugly has hindered the way I act in social settings, and it takes me a while to warm up to a social environment, e.g. I need to be around my (male) friends for a while, and maybe have a drink or two before I loosen up, but I am by no means socially inept or scared of talking to or approaching women or anything. I just don't approach them cuz I know how disgusted they feel.

If you could see how ugly I am, you'd be surprised how well I've done with my social and "dating" life.

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How the hell can you be successful socially if you are ugly?

You're telling me you're friends with a bunch of other ugly ppl right?

Most of my friends are from school or childhood. But I do have one friend I met when I was 19-ish (i.e. once my subhumanity was set in stone after puberty). My friends are better-looking than me but no higher than a 6. I admit that most 8/10 guys wouldn't want to be friends with me, primarily because we would have nothing in common, in terms of experiences (teen love, dating, women, validation, happiness).

I ADMIT THAT LOOKS PLAY A PART IN EVERYTHING: FRIENDSHIPS, DATING, HIRING, ETC, but, with the exception of dating, you can do SOMEWHAT OK if you're not goodlooking. Ugly people HAVE JOBS. They may get more rejection at interviews but they find jobs sooner or later.

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Yeah, obviously.
I've been bullied a lot and I had very severe issues with my family. My dad was an alcoholic and my mother didn't give two shits about me.

Sorry to hear that.

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I'm like you. I'm raw ugly, parts of me closing in on The Hills Have Eyes-level, but I'm able to compensate in social settings as long as it doesn't involve females in a dating capacity.

Not sure if it sucks harder than being geniune mentalcel tbh, but it has boiled it down to a 100% looks problem for sure.

:cowboy: fellow looksonlycel

 

[Zielony4]

Yea, I pretty much have everything except FACE HEIGHT FRAME RACE.

 

[CamelBlueFilters]

I am a pure mentalcel. Was ugly and autistic in school but now since I finished growing up I am not that ugly anymore excluding my semi-bad teeth. I haven't been rated much, I just think I am not bad looking because of how women treat me. To some I am invisible, some try to small chat sometimes, acting nice overall but everything goes to the ruin because I can't connect with normal people. FACE, could you rate me? because I am just confused now, have no idea if women are talking with me because of my looks or it's just my autistic brain making up things.

 

[Octopusgun2]

I have an outgoing and very active social life. I have approached women in real life and online (FB for example). I have an endless amount of friends, and my best friend is a Chad who always invites me to his social circles (though he’s high inhib but his chadliness makes up for it). I’m always 100% confident and honest. I’ve spent 2 years trying to stick my penis in vag but I get rejected everytime (i don’t ask for sex, just meet ups or dates). I now am soon gonna be setting an appointment with a surgeon since all of my flaws are fixable and i have potential to be a 7/10. I’ve started spending less time outside cause my “friends” always make fun of my big nose and say that they’re “just kidding xD”. I tried approaching femoids way below my looksmatch and have been rejected for BEING UGLY (my Chad friend who set me up told me afterwards, the female was quite upset cause my Chad friend wanted ME, a subhuman, date HER and she wanted my Chad friend instead of me).

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I am. If I hadn't injured my nose aplenty I wouldn't have been incel. My nose is disgusting looking. It brings me down 3 points, from a 5 to a 2. It's huge and crooked. I will never have somebody interested in me. Feelsbadman.jpg

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To add insult to injury, like, literally, girls never say "Ew, he has NCT/brown eyes/dark skin/a weak lower third," but they ALWAYS say "Ew, look at his nose." A huge, crooked nose is a huge deal breaker for 99.9% of girls, but if you have money or celeb status then you can make up for it. But if you have neither, it's over.

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I too have had sluts and femoids (especially in HS) specifically comment on my NOSE. Going outside or walking past a slut is literally FUCKING EMBARASSING. I literally have to pretend that I’m scratching my eyes to hide my nose.

 

[oilonthe-Rose]

Yep, I've got friends that can all go  out and get laid and I'm stuck here on my own a virgin for life.

 

[KyloRen]

Lookcel. Only surgery can fix this.

Any non-lookcels need to work as hard as possible to escape.

 

[FACEandLMS]

FACEandLMS has good social skills because he's a tall blackguy with a nice voice. Short people with awful voices are not welcomed in social circles.

Thanks bro

 

[Deleted member 1039]

Hardly anyone on this forum is legit ugly. Everyone who's posted a picture isn't ugly, if you posted your pic you know you aren't ugly. If you're a mentalcel, you really shouldn't be here IMO, you should be on a Normie subredit geared towards helping out socially awkward and people who struggle talking to woman

 

[VLÖ]

Hardly anyone on this forum is legit ugly. Everyone who's posted a picture isn't ugly, if you posted your pic you know you aren't ugly. If you're a mentalcel, you really shouldn't be here IMO, you should be on a Normie subredit geared towards helping out socially awkward and people who struggle talking to woman

Except those are filled with women and bluepilled cucks.

 

[Deleted member 1039]

Except those are filled with women and bluepilled cucks.

There advice of being confident, lifting, charming and cool would work because looks aren't their problems

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Thanks bro

Never would've guessed you were black from you're voice

 

[VLÖ]

There advice of being confident, lifting, charming and cool would work because looks aren't their problems

Yeah I don't think they're Chad enough for that. Besides, they would say stupid shit like "don't be entitled" and "respect womyn".

 

[KV-]

How does one gauge their social skills? If you look subhuman, halo sort of throws off measurements.

I’d say I fit everything on that list, but you realistically can have a lot of these things and still be constantly ostracized socially.

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There's no such thing as "social skills". Being an extroverted dipshit is not an objectively good thing that should be considered a skill of any sort.

For extroverts (80+% of people) socializing is less of a skill and more of a natural part of life. For introverts “social skills” do exist, because you have to learn to act outgoing/funny/confident long enough to get what you need.

 

[FeminismsCancer]

I'm both mental and unattractive.

 

[Deleted member 1039]

Yeah I don't think they're Chad enough for that. Besides, they would say stupid shit like "don't be entitled" and "respect womyn".

You dont have to be Chad to get laid or get a girlfriend.

 

[thetruecelibate]

I feel like the odd one out here.
Threads like this abound and make r/IncelTears look like they're 100% right:
https://incels.is/Thread-Looksmaxed-from-4-10-to-6-10-but-turns-out-I-am-mentalcel

[font=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]Man, I am a damn mentalcel. Depressed+Socially retarded. My therapist thought I had autism, but after testing it turns out I just have total shit social skills lmao.[/font]
[font=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]I even had girls flirt with me on 4 occasions the past 2 years. The first 2 times my mind froze and I got the fuck outta there. The last 2 times I ignored their advances, because I felt completely unmotivated to even bother and still felt inferior cuz of lack of social and sexual experience.[/font]
[font=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]I get about 2 matches a day on Tinder/Badoo, even went on a date but the girl told me 'there was no connection' after the date and didn't want to continue. [/font]

Most guys here who list "mentalceldom" or "lack of social skills" as ONE of the reasons why they are incel grossly underestimate them as potentially being the biggest contributing factor in their inceldom.
"I'm incel but also a mentalcel too"
No. You're a mentalcel which is your main problem. Stop coping. There are guys around your looks level who have gfs.
"Yeah but every single one of them gets cheated on. I know this because I never leave the basement and am aware of these things"
While inceldom can impair social skills, no one here is ugly enough to the point where they can't make male friends, or at least be able to string a sentence together IRL.
Is anyone else here like me:
- has friends/social circle?
- while possibly a little shy or self-conscious at times, is sometimes able to act normie, confident, dominant, like "just one of the guys".
- has actually approached women IRL AS WELL AS ONLINE and been rejected - EVEN AFTER LONG, NONAWKWARD CONVERSATIONS. I am not referring to muttering a few words of autism to a woman then bailing.
- is not NEET.
- makes eye-contact with people
- has somewhat normal hobbies, i.e. isn't some anime weirdo (some Naruto, and mainstream stuff is okay); doesn't play videogames 8 hours a day.
Am I the odd one out here?
A lot of people here are like: "I am only a 6, that's why I'm incel. I have full blown autism so I need to looksmax up to a 7 so that my autism won't affect my dating life. My looks are holding me back. You need to be an 8/10 male model to get a gf and not be cheated on constantly. Only lachowski and brad pitt get loving-sex and not pity-sex". HOLY COPE.
TLDR: "I am an incel and a mentalcel" is COPE. You are using inceldom as a scapegoat for the REAL CAUSE OF YOUR INCELDOM which is your shitty brain, autism, lack of social skills, etc.

same, im not shy but my looks...well you can say shy normies have more luck than me.

 

[thetruecelibate]

I have good social skills, but my looks..well. Shy normies have more success than me, just to say.

 

[anincelforlifelol]

I used to be, but in the past few years I have no friends anymore. But when I did have friends I still never got laid. I am the best poster to talk about this, because I used to be a bluepilled "normie". Big social group, friends, class clown, and all that crap and I still never got laid.

 

[GeneticFilth]

The reason why you do well socially is because you're like 6ft3.