Is 21 years old to old to make a change?

[quazz]

Almost 21 and virgin, basically I've been solitudecel and Ldaring until now. I may have some potential and I get into good shape and looksmax. However is 21 years old to late for this? Is it already over or can I start to slay at 21? Please give me real answers no trolls.

 

[KValt]

No. There are a few age breakpoints over 18. They are at 23 (end of uni for most people), 25 (all hope lost for most although some can escape) and 30 (haven’t got laid now you never will)

 

[Panda]

personality wise its over for you. but you might be able to get something in your mid 20s if you play catch up at light speed. maybe....

 

[quazz]

personality wise its over for you. but you might be able to get something in your mid 20s if you play catch up at light speed. maybe....

What do you mean by personality wise?

 

[Currycel4Life]

Tbh, contrary to what everyone says here (and as normie as this is going to sound), I truly believe it's never too late to change. But you DO need to have realistic expectations.

Is it too late to turn chad, fuck 50 bitches a week and party like a rockstar? You'd need tremendous change to influence that.

Is it too late to maybe get educated, find work, get some savings, make a few friends? No. I believe at such a young age you can probably get those things. 

Depends on what you're asking for man.

 

[grayjedi90]

No the critical age is 25. Because after that most people have settled in their social circles with friends and maybe even a girlfriend/wife. They all have their career or job going. If you are still struggeling after that age it's almost impossible to catch up on the important things you missed.

 

[KilluminoidBR]

No. Old is just when your face starts deteriorating.

21 is too young.

 

[Prince Of Dankness]

Heck no. I would say your 40s or 50s is when its too late. Still got a long way to go.

 

[jagged0]

Almost 21 and virgin, basically I've been solitudecel and Ldaring until now. I may have some potential and I get into good shape and looksmax. However is 21 years old to late for this? Is it already over or can I start to slay at 21? Please give me real answers no trolls.

Never too old.

 

[Deleted member 306]

Rope

 

[BlackPillDealer]

Get in shape, be very social and try to make friends, build a social circle. That's the most realistic possibility for an incel to have sex with a female, meeting her through your social circle.

But there is no escape from the black pill. Women's standards will just keep getting higher every year. Unless there's a betacuck die off, like some virus that only infects and kills white knights. Or half the male population goes their own way and begins to ignore women. All that men really need to do is stop giving women attention and putting them on a pedestal, their behavior would improve and their standards would become more realistic as their "mini celebrity" status gets revoked.

 

[Deleted member 60]

No the critical age is 25. Because after that most people have settled in their social circles with friends and maybe even a girlfriend/wife. They all have their career or job going. If you are still struggeling after that age it's almost impossible to catch up on the important things you missed.

this makes me want to kill myself. But you're right. The clock is ticking, OP

 

[Hunter]

when you reach 25 and your still a virgin just give up lmao. its over by then. you wont experience young love.

 

[Kointo1]

Probably. Unless you're an ugly duckling, I don't see how you could change.

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Heck no. I would say your 40s or 50s is when its too late. Still got a long way to go.

That's way too late

 

[Prince Of Dankness]

Probably. Unless you're an ugly duckling, I don't see how you could change.

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That's way too late

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What i mean is thats when age starts to hit you. Gray hair, balding, wrinkling, getting fat and weak...etc

You basically lose your youth and attractiveness

 

[Kointo1]

What i mean is thats when age starts to hit you. Gray hair, balding, wrinkling, getting fat and weak...etc

You basically lose your youth and attractiveness

Incels never had attractiveness to begin with. We have nothing to lose from age.

 

[Rose]

What do you mean by personality wise?

if you've been solitude from everyone for a couple years, inevitably that state of mind (especially if you were like that before and post 18yo) will be ingrained for some time

 

[justforlulzandkeks]

you're approaching the point of no return, but you're still pretty young so it still isn't too late IMO
>can I start to slay
you should not be concerned with wanting to "slay"

 

[NekoStance]

If you haven't even kissed, I'm afraid it is

 

[Total Imbecile]

If you haven't even kissed, I'm afraid it is

Im 21 and this is what I think. I dont think my situation will change any time soon.

 

[itsOVER]

Too late to ever be NT and normal, not too late to get laid but you'll always have the feeling of missing out in your younger years.

 

[Total Imbecile]

Too late to ever be NT and normal, not too late to get laid but you'll always have the feeling of missing out in your younger years.

I dont need this.

 

[idkwattodowithlife]

No. There are a few age breakpoints over 18. They are at 23 (end of uni for most people), 25 (all hope lost for most although some can escape) and 30 (haven’t got laid now you never will)

yeah prettymuch/10, there's still a little possibility to take the betabux route (in your 30s+).

you're approaching the point of no return, but you're still pretty young so it still isn't too late IMO
>can I start to slay
you should not be concerned with wanting to "slay"

He still has a chance.

 

[rickvanderhammer]

Womb to tomb, your genes have sealed your fate, the prophecy is fulfilled

 

[ArtoriasWolf]

Has the word "rope" or "cope" been said more on this site?

 

[lostcel]

not even close to too old, still got ur entire life ahead of you, 30-35 is old, if ur still failing at life by then, u need to reevaluate yourself

 

[dr-problematic]

just continue to ldar, its never too late to rot

 

[RREEEEEEEEE]

Yeah, it's over. I'm 22.

 

[Uglychad]

21 is pretty much the ideal time

 

[CopingGymcel]

21 is not too old by any means. 23+ and it becomes a problem, 25+ and it becomes a death sentence.

 

[NeverSubmit]

No. There are a few age breakpoints over 18. They are at 23 (end of uni for most people), 25 (all hope lost for most although some can escape) and 30 (haven’t got laid now you never will)

People still get their first lay after 30 but it's gonna be low quality older women

 

[Deleted member 1617]

If you’re a manlet/framecel then HGH can no longer save you

It can work for framecels, and manlets a little bit (growth in upper body)

 

[Minjaze]

If you haven't even kissed/held hands by the time you hit adulthood, it's absolutely over. Puberty is finished, you'll only get uglier from this point on.

 

[quazz]

If you haven't even kissed/held hands by the time you hit adulthood, it's absolutely over. Puberty is finished, you'll only get uglier from this point on.

Can still potentially looksmax.

 

[blackcel]

21 years old is practically a baby. At any rate, it is never too late, no matter what the idiots here say. If you are a truecel you aren't going to find love no matter what, but if you are an ultra late bloomer, you will be fine.

I literally met a guy who was a virgin until is late 30s and regularly fucked girls in their 20s in his 40s. Last I checked he had 5 different girlfriends.

 

[ToDragonia]

Get in shape, be very social and try to make friends, build a social circle. That's the most realistic possibility for an incel to have sex with a female, meeting her through your social circle.

But there is no escape from the black pill. Women's standards will just keep getting higher every year. Unless there's a betacuck die off, like some virus that only infects and kills white knights. Or half the male population goes their own way and begins to ignore women. All that men really need to do is stop giving women attention and putting them on a pedestal, their behavior would improve and their standards would become more realistic as their "mini celebrity" status gets revoked.

Don't say build a social circle like there is nothing to it after high school that shit becomes exponentially hard and the older you get it gets honestly close to impossible

 

[BlackpilledNorman]

I know a guy who lost his virginity at 24, his wife (not the girl he lost virginity to) is set to gove birth next month. I'd rate him 4/10.

While his example proves its possible, he is an outlier. There is definitely a chance but you need to form a gameplan and act on it.

I wouldnt say that there is a point when age as such makes it impossible. However, after years and years of LDARing, most people's mental state will make it impossible for them to escape inceldom.

 

[chadlandic]

No, youngcels don't lose hope