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Inconsistencies in Elliot Rodger's Attack and his true personality.

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Let's point out some data and you will come to your own conclusions:
- Elliot lied when he said he never had girls who treated him helpfully and emotionally. this is proved by the testimony of an old personal friend of Elliot's from the east coast that you can find in this link: https://punishedrodger.blogspot.com/2020/06/how-i-survived-elliot-rodger-and-his.html
- Not only did Elliot know about other cases of school shootings and attacks, he also actively researched and was an admirer of shooters like Seung-Hui Cho and George Sodin
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- He has been planning his attack since 2012, specifically since December 2012. However, he has been studying dark topics since before. this is proved by part of its released history which includes this data:
May 23, 2014
Quick silent kill with a knife
How to kill someone with a knife

May 14, 2014
Xingjian railway station terrorist knife attack explosion bombing
Guangzhou train station knife attack

Nov. 30, 2012
Philosophy of a knife

Oct. 9, 2012
Did Adolf Hitler have a girlfriend
Adolf Hitler’s childhood
I’ve never had a female friend
Nazi anime


Oct. 6, 2012
Are there any knives so sharp that if you touch it you bleed
Stabbing incident
SRK survival rescue knife

Oct. 5, 2012
Heinrich Himmler
Roommate takes very long showers
Young people are all mean
Joseph Goebbels
has a jewis [sic] name

Oct. 4, 2012
Modern torture devices
Spanish inquisition torture devices
If Hitler was born today
Blood elves are Nazis
Heinrich Himmler
Reincarnation of Hitler

- Elliot annexed numerous racist ideas from eugenicists from the 3rd reich and was also anti-Semitic.
- The date of the attack he would commit is the same as the date of the death of Heinrich Himmler and probably, it is not by chance, being this a homage to the same.
- he had already bought guns since 2012 and even spent from 2012 to 2014 the equivalent of more than 2500 dollars on them.
- There are many recordings and photos that demonstrate that his social life was not as described by him in the manifesto and diary.

- According to one of Elliot's friends, he manipulated his voice in the videos. therefore Elliot's voice on the recordings did not match his normal voice.
- Elliot deliberately did not reveal such data either in the diary or in the manifesto directly, but it is possible to see effects of such data in what is described.
- Elliot has stabbed one of his colleagues 94 times, displaying unusual coldness.
- Elliot's manipulation of data demonstrates that he planned the attack and created a rhetoric to pass for the eyes of observers as a victim of society.
- He used youtube to praise the Virginia Tech shooter, but he never produced any content about it or any other topic that was not the same as his manifesto and diary.
- Probably Elliot's misogyny wasn't necessarily the cause of the attack as he wanted it to go.
- he probably studied about Sandy Hook, mainly because he kept track of everything.
- Within astrology, some of his settings match Adolf Hitler's and Adam Lanza birth chart settings. Venus conjunction Mars for Hitler and Sttelium in Capricorn For Adam Lanza with the same planets.
- Everything he wrote and the videos he made were probably already planned as part of a gigantic plan as already mentioned, this demonstrating that Elliot was probably the most manipulative and cunning mass shooter in history.
- Although much of the Alt-Right movement denies it, Elliot was a part of them.
- Elliot was a radical misanthrope.
- It is very strange for a misogynist to have a friendly relationship with another older girl, as mentioned earlier. therefore Elliot's misogyny is questionable as well.
- Elliot had a high IQ and was not so antisocial as to get what is described. this is confirmed with photos of Elliot's childhood and even adolescence.
- According to one of Elliot's friends, he manipulated his voice in the videos. therefore Elliot's voice on the recordings did not match his normal voice.
- Elliot deliberately did not reveal such data either in the diary or in the manifesto directly, but it is possible to see effects of such data in what is described.
- Elliot has stabbed one of his colleagues 94 times, displaying unusual coldness.
- Elliot's manipulation of data demonstrates that he planned the attack and created a rhetoric to pass for the eyes of observers as a victim of society.
- He used youtube to praise the Virginia Tech shooter, but he never produced any content about it or any other topic that was not the same as his manifesto and diary.
- Probably Elliot's misogyny wasn't necessarily the cause of the attack as he wanted it to go.
- he probably studied about Sandy Hook, mainly because he kept track of everything.
- Within astrology, some of his settings match Adolf Hitler's and Adam Lanza birth chart settings. Venus conjunction Mars for Hitler and Sttelium in Capricorn For Adam Lanza with the same planets.
- Everything he wrote and the videos he made were probably already planned as part of a gigantic plan as already mentioned, this demonstrating that Elliot was probably the most manipulative and cunning mass shooter in history.
- Although much of the Alt-Right movement denies it, Elliot was a part of them.
- Elliot was a radical misanthrope.
- It is very strange for a misogynist to have a friendly relationship with another older girl, as mentioned earlier. therefore Elliot's misogyny is questionable as well.
- Elliot had a high IQ and was not so antisocial as to get what is described. this is confirmed with photos of Elliot's childhood and even adolescence.
https://schoolshooters.info/sites/default/files/ISLAVISTAINVESTIGATIVESUMMARY.pdf
what I'm finding strange is the superficiality of the official report. simply the Sheriff who carried out the investigation as well as the entire police department left aside all the possible schematization carried out by Elliot and treated numerous topics as if it were "pure coincidence". this could even be if we were talking about a natural phenomenon. however, we are talking about something planned. Regarding Himmler's question, it is comical to note that on page 5 of the report there is the following consideration:
Upon review of the suspect’s internet search history investigators have learned that the suspect
was very interested in some of the practices and techniques of the Third Reich. The suspect’s indepth research included information about Joseph Goebbels and Heinrich Himmler, two infamousmembers of the Nazi hierarchy. Himmler’s date of death was May 23rd; however, this fact appearsto be purely coincidental. In actuality, the suspect made specific mention of planning the rampage on a much earlier date, during the annual Deltopia event, but decided against it due to the increased police presence in Isla Vista
.
What's really strange about this preposition is that unless Elliot had some sort of Alzheimer's that made him forget the symbolism of the date of the attack, you can't make a statement like that logically according to all the data described. another important thing: The police in this report left out many other things, such as Elliot's use of youtube channels in honor of Seung-Hui Cho as it has even been pointed out right here on the forum: https://columbinemassacre.forumotion.com/t6903-how-familiar-was-elliot-rodger-with-seung-hui-cho https://incels.is/threads/did-columbine-indirectly-inspire-er-and-am.67389/
Page 54/55 of the Isla Vista Attack report: Suspect’s Finances
The suspect used a Chase debit card to make most of his purchases. The debit card was linked to a Chase checking account that was only in the suspect’s name. The suspect received a monthly allowance of $500 per month from Peter. The suspect also received additional monetary deposits into his checking account from other family members. The suspect’s Chase checking account included the following transactions of interest:
12-4-12 $755.57 – Goleta Valley Gun & Supply, a firearms dealer in
Goleta, CA163
3-12-13 $1,179.48 – Gun World, a firearms dealer in Burbank, CA164
3-13-13 $460.00 – Botach Tactical, a tactical equipment dealer in Los
Angeles, CA165
3-29-13 $92.60 – The Target Range, a shooting range in Van Nuys, CA
1-17-14 $32.51 – Goleta Valley Gun & Supply
2-14-14 $109.09 – The Target Range
2-22-14 $1,132.00 – B&G Guns, a firearms dealer in Oxnard, CA166
2-22-14 $121.48 – Shooter’s Paradise, a shooting range in Oxnard, CA167
2-25-14 $39.51 – Shooter’s Paradise
3-15-14 $99.30 – Shooter’s Paradise168
3-20-14 $551.65 – Ammo To Go, an online ammunition supplier in
Houston, TX169
3-20-14 $489.35 – Top Gun Supply, an online firearms supplies dealer in
Chesterfield, OH170
4-18-14 $110.51 – Shooter’s Paradise
4-23-14 $226.27 – The Target Range
The suspect’s financial history shows that his planning for this tragedy, with respect to purchasing weapons, started in December of 2012. The purchase of the Glock 34 pistol on December 4, 2012 can be considered his first overt act in furtherance in the planning of the mass murder. The suspect’s financial records also show his increased spending in firearms-related materials and shooting practice in the months leading up to May 23, 2014.171 This activity indicates the suspect was “ramping up” in the planning and rehearsing stages prior to committing the crimes on May 23, 2014. The suspect’s last Chase debit card transaction was on May 23, 2014 at 1938 hours. He purchased a triple vanilla latte for $4.90 from the Isla Vista Starbucks.

Important points:

- Elliot, despite having described that he changed his mind numerous times regarding the date of the attack, does not demonstrate such a statement in practice with the purchase of weapons.
- It was to be expected that there would be an increase in the purchase of weapons by him in 2013 and in 2012 at the same rate as in 2014 to have full assurance that he really was wanting to make an attack of such magnitude in dates in those years.
- As I have already pointed out in previous articles, the police report is quite imprecise in a general observation of all the events and data left inside and outside it. it is not known why.
- Elliot lied and purposely omitted numerous facts in the media he left.
- there is no evidence beyond Elliot's rigged media that actually demonstrates that his attack has been rescheduled. the report's failure to realize this is clear and extremely puzzling.
- Elliot was certainly much more than a misogynistic idiot.

that sounds unreal, but yes. If you've followed the articles I've done, it has already been shown that Elliot deliberately manipulated his written and digital media, purposefully omitting and manipulating facts and data in order to create a narrative for his attack. However, it seems that his biggest secret into which he hammered the entire manifesto, that of sexuality, was revealed not even by the refutation of his manifesto and diary, but by the clearest and at the same time unnoticed thing in it all: The attacks of melee weapon/knife he made against his roommates. let's read what the police left in the report regarding the attacks and how criminalistics treats attacks of this type.:
Weihan Wang
Weihan Wang was a 20-year-old UCSB student and Isla Vista resident. On May 24, 2014, Wang
was found deceased in his apartment, located at 6598 Seville Road #7.
Pathologist Robert Anthony M.D. conducted the autopsy and consulted with coroner’s detectives
to determine the cause and manner of death. The findings were as follows: The cause of death was multiple stab wounds. A total of 15 stab wounds and 23 incision wounds
were present, which caused injury to the head, neck, chest, back and both arms and hands. Three
stab wounds and three incision wounds were present on the neck area, resulting in penetration of
the carotid artery and jugular vein. Eight stab wounds and one incision wound were present on
the upper torso (front and back), resulting in penetration of both lungs. Multiple incision wounds
were present on the hands and arms, consistent with defensive wounds. The left brachial artery
was cut.
There was initial concern that the victims murdered inside of 6598 Seville Road #7 had been
incapacitated by drugs. However, results of toxicology tests revealed no evidence of incapacitating
substances present within the body.
The manner of death was determined to be a HOMICIDE, based upon evidence collected and
evaluated during the Coroner’s investigation and autopsy, in conjunction with evidence and
witness statements gathered during the criminal investigation conducted by the Sheriff’s Criminal
Investigations Division.

Chen Hong
Chen Hong was a 20-year-old UCSB student and Isla Vista resident. On May 24, 2014, Hong was
found deceased in his apartment, located at 6598 Seville Road #7.
Pathologist Robert Anthony M.D. conducted the autopsy and consulted with coroner’s detectives
to determine the cause and manner of death. The findings were as follows:
The cause of death was multiple stab wounds. A total of 25 stab wounds and 12 incision wounds
were present which caused injury to the head, neck, chest, back and both arms and hands. Six stab
wounds and one incision wound were present on the neck area. Twelve stab wounds and one
incision wound were present on the upper torso (front and back), resulting in penetration of the
right lung and cutting of the bowel. Five of the stab wounds on the back were apparent postmortem injuries. Multiple incision wounds were present on the hands and arms, consistent with
defensive wounds. Results of toxicology tests revealed no evidence of incapacitating substances
present within the body.
The manner of death was determined to be a HOMICIDE, based upon evidence collected and
evaluated during the Coroner’s investigation and autopsy, in conjunction with evidence and
witness statements gathered during the criminal investigation conducted by the Sheriff’s Criminal
Investigations Division.

George Chen
George Chen was a 19-year-old UCSB student residing in student housing on the UCSB campus.
On May 24, 2014, Chen was found deceased in the apartment located at 6598 Seville Road #7.
Pathologist Jon Smith M.D. conducted the autopsy and consulted with coroner’s detectives to
determine the cause and manner of death. The findings were as follows: The cause of death was multiple stab wounds. A total of 94 stab wounds and 11 incision wounds
were present which caused injury to the head, neck, chest, back and both arms and hands. Twentythree stab wounds and three incision wounds were present on the neck area resulting in penetration
of the carotid artery and jugular vein. Fifty-four stab wounds were present on the upper torso
(front and back), resulting in penetrations of the heart, left lung, left kidney, pancreas, spleen and
liver. Multiple stab wounds and incision wounds were present on the hands and arms, consistent
with defensive wounds. Results of toxicology tests revealed no evidence of incapacitating
substances present within the body.
The manner of death was determined to be a HOMICIDE, based upon evidence collected and
evaluated during the Coroner’s investigation and autopsy, in conjunction with evidence and
witness statements gathered during the criminal investigation conducted by the Sheriff’s Criminal
Investigations Division.

Knight's Forensic Pathology',(3rd Ed) Saukko P. and B. Knight (2004) Arnold Publishers, London, page 428: As with heterosexual offenses, the cause of death in fatal cases is almost always some form of general trauma, such as strangulation or head injuries. Homosexual activity, however, may be a parallel event; it is a fact that some of the most violent homicides seen by pathologists are among male homosexuals.

The Encyclopedia of Serial Killers by Michael Newton, page 103: Homosexual slayers clearly have no monopoly on violence, but it is true that their crimes often display extremes of "overkill" and mutilation... On balance, it seems fair to say that while homosexuals sometimes fall prey to "gay bashing" violence by bigoted "straights," they are far more likely to be murdered by another homosexual than in a random hate crime.

Homicide in homosexual victims: a study of 67 cases from the Broward County, Florida, Medical Examiner's office (1982-1992) https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8838474/: Forensic pathologists often state that homosexual homicides are more violent than those with heterosexual victims. Overkill or wounding far beyond that required to cause death is a frequently used descriptor of these deaths. We quantified the number and extent of injuries between homosexual and heterosexual homicide victims to determine whether one group suffered more violence than the other...Homosexual homicides are more violent than heterosexual homicides when one compares the mean number of injuries (fatal sharp, blunt, and total)/case and the extent of injuries on the body.

Journal of Indian Academy of Forensic Medicine states regarding homosexual murders https://web.archive.org/web/20150415225302/http://medind.nic.in/jal/t05/i3/jalt05i3p184.pdf: These "Lovers' quarrels" between male homosexuals manifest an increased level of violence due to the fact that the parties involved in the emotional conflict are both sexual aggressors... The reason/motivation for the crime is an extremely important consideration in establishing the investigations direction i.e. if the murder was the result of a lover's quarrel or due to interpersonal violence was it due to a rape/sodomy attempt, lastly is it the work of a sexual psychopath with sadistic or impulsive implications?


In the criminal literature, very violent crimes related to the use of bladed weapons are evidence that the killer is gay.. It is very naive to think that a person is 100% sincere in a manifesto, diary and others, especially when it comes to criminals. therefore, it is more than clear following the EVIDENCE and not THE OPINIONS MANIPULATED BY ELLIOT HIMSELF, that at the very least, the way the crime took place corresponds to a gay murderer.

Elliot had been planning the attack carefully since 2012. If the goal had always been the fraternity, he would have known how the entrance works, who was there, the times, everything. comparing the two cases, state of consciousness and also taking into account the preparation time, it is practically ignorant to accept that Elliot really aimed at the fraternity, as the target of the attack, because if that were the case he could have easily entered by checking the time or breaking into the entrances through the weapons he had in his car on the day of the attack. which means that, in fact, the Brotherhood was a scapegoat, and this is confirmed when we consider that he architected his media narrative. This means that, in fact, the focus of the attack HAS ALWAYS BEEN A SHOOTING IN PUBLIC SPACE, which is also confirmed by the study of the last research found in Elliot's history regarding attacks which was the Xinjiang attack in 2014. Deadly China blast at Xinjiang railway station: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-27225308
Santa Barbara Killer Smiled Before Shooting, Survivor Says: https://abcnews.go.com/US/santa-bar...er-smiled-shooting-survivor/story?id=23923970

Elliot's personality is as cold as a glacier in Russia in the dead of winter. if we remove as we should his media and do a critical analysis on the data, we will see that he cannot fit in the "diagnosed disorders" to him. the thing is much deeper. the capacity for deliberate manipulation arises from an analytical intelligence, which is also demonstrated in writing. he created all the narrative he produced, through websites, manifesto, diary and others. the reason for all this is a mystery and we could be talking about an absolutely Lovecraftian case from the beginning. Elliot's Misanthropy certainly didn't come because of women's denial of him, and probably his "misogyny" was also something deliberately contrived. his former roommate Spencer's account is clear: "He always stays in the room." time to plan, study high-level literature on political and other aspects he had. he prepared the crime scene in a planned way, which can be visualized with the description given in the official report:
The suspect's apartment (6598 Seville Road #7) and bedroom were searched and photodocumented pursuant to a search warrant.
The suspect's bedroom was in a state of disarray. The room was cluttered with numerous items
strewn on the floor. A laptop computer was on top of the suspect's bed. The screen was flipped
open and turned on, displaying a YouTube page acknowledging that a video had just been
uploaded. A screen shot from the suspect’s “Retribution” video was visible on this YouTube page,
which was illuminated on the laptop's screen.
The fitted sheet on the suspect's bed had numerous slash and stab marks on the corner. several
areas of this blue-colored fitted sheet contained dried blood consistent with drops and smears.
Several pillows on the bed also had numerous stab marks in the pillow cases. The presence of this
damage suggests that the suspect may have been practicing his stabbing/slashing movements in
order to rehearse and prepare himself for the attacks against his victims.
A long-sleeve, button-up shirt and denim pants were found on the bed, entangled in the sheets and
bedspread. A significant amount of dried blood was present on the sleeves and front, torso-area
of this shirt. The majority of this blood was confined to the ends of the shirt sleeves, near the cuffs.
The denim pants also had a significant amount of dried blood concentrated on the front of the pant
legs This evidence suggests that the suspect wore these clothes when he murdered Weihan Wang,
Cheng Hong and George Chen. A television stand was located on the opposite wall from the bed. Two open “Monster” energy
drinks were on the stand next to an array of miscellaneous items. One empty 9mm Glock magazine
was on the stand next to a single unexpended round of 9mm ammunition.
The following video games were recovered from the suspect’s bedroom:
 World of Warcraft III – Frozen Throng
 World of Warcraft III – Reign of Chaos
 Gears of War
 Call of Duty – World at War
 Call of Duty 2 – Modern Warfare
 Call of Duty 4 – Modern Warfare
 Halo – Reach
 Halo – Combat Evolved
 Halo 2
 Halo 3
A desk inside the suspect’s bedroom contained the following items:
One folding knife with blade locked open
One “Zombie Killer” fixed-blade knife with 10” blade
One machete with 18” blade
One small “Husky” brand sledge hammer
NOTE: No suspected blood was found on the four above weapons
Starbucks coffee cup
One open bottle of Maine Root brand “Ginger Brew”
One open bottle of Raventos i Blanc Reserva Brut 2009 CAVA (Spanish champagne)
The suspect’s printed manifesto. The title page is visible on top of the stack of papers.
Handwritten journal open to a page with the last entry dated 5-23-14.
106
The journal was
positioned on the left side of the manifesto. Several pages had been torn out from the
journal, but returned and aligned with the spine of the book. The following was written
under the 5-23-14 entry:
5/23/14
I had to tear some pages out because I feared my intentions would be discovered.
I taped them back together as fast as I could
This is it. In one hour I will have my revenge on this cruel world. I HATE YOU
ALLLL! DIE
Additional items found in the suspect’s bedroom:107
Empty "Boar Hunter" Cold Steel knife box
Two empty boxes of Winchester 9mm Luger PDX1 Defender ammunition
Two gun cleaning kits
Numerous lottery tickets
Art of Seduction book 108
Hand drawing of someone being stabbed with knives
Pharmacy paperwork for the suspect listing the following medications:
Lorazepam 0.5mg, dated 11-15-12
Escitalopram 10 mg, dated 11-7-12
VIT D2 1.25 mg, dated 11-
we see there that the crime scene was deliberately set up. this is a feature that proves Analytical Intelligence again. he planned down to the smallest details having time right after the murders of his colleagues. to say that your attack was a failure or a desperate one is a big mistake. we are certainly facing a case that the personality of the individual is a real enigma. however, based on everything we have, we can say that he was:
- Extreme Manipulator
- perfectionist
- Possessed analytical intelligence
- Regular reader
- Observer
- Emotion Controller publicly
- violent
- Intellectual Extremist.

It is necessary to review the case immediately. Elliot was hailed as a "victim of society" which he never was.
 
hapa Nazis are so weird
Drawings are Patrick Bateman tier
 
A woman sent him nudes and joked about fucking him. According to IT logic, that must mean Elliot had a great personality right?

BTW the man who impregnated her mogs Elliot looks wise. He's a white passing latino. Elliot leanmaxxed and carmaxxed but still couldn't blonde girls.

It still surprised me that a woman would send nudes to a platonic friend. I guess they really like attention.
 
A very interesting thread to say the least
 
Interesting so far. Will read all of it later.
 
If what he wrote was true then he was a real person, a good person that wasnt made for this unnecessery brutal and cruel world ruled by archons. But if not then this whole shooting was probably meant to deceive and we will never know if he was for example federal agent, biorobot, clone or something else. But I honestly believe he was a good person a warrior that decided to destroy this wicked world of evil, If he was real then he deserves respect, you could feel it in him that he was here involontary (I dont condone his torture fantasies and shooting though)
 
needs to be bumped for effort ngl
 
Let's point out some data and you will come to your own conclusions:
- Elliot lied when he said he never had girls who treated him helpfully and emotionally. this is proved by the testimony of an old personal friend of Elliot's from the east coast that you can find in this link: https://punishedrodger.blogspot.com/2020/06/how-i-survived-elliot-rodger-and-his.html
- Not only did Elliot know about other cases of school shootings and attacks, he also actively researched and was an admirer of shooters like Seung-Hui Cho and George Sodin
choell11.png



- He has been planning his attack since 2012, specifically since December 2012. However, he has been studying dark topics since before. this is proved by part of its released history which includes this data:
May 23, 2014
Quick silent kill with a knife
How to kill someone with a knife

May 14, 2014
Xingjian railway station terrorist knife attack explosion bombing
Guangzhou train station knife attack

Nov. 30, 2012
Philosophy of a knife

Oct. 9, 2012
Did Adolf Hitler have a girlfriend
Adolf Hitler’s childhood
I’ve never had a female friend
Nazi anime


Oct. 6, 2012
Are there any knives so sharp that if you touch it you bleed
Stabbing incident
SRK survival rescue knife

Oct. 5, 2012
Heinrich Himmler
Roommate takes very long showers
Young people are all mean
Joseph Goebbels
has a jewis [sic] name

Oct. 4, 2012
Modern torture devices
Spanish inquisition torture devices
If Hitler was born today
Blood elves are Nazis
Heinrich Himmler
Reincarnation of Hitler

- Elliot annexed numerous racist ideas from eugenicists from the 3rd reich and was also anti-Semitic.
- The date of the attack he would commit is the same as the date of the death of Heinrich Himmler and probably, it is not by chance, being this a homage to the same.
- he had already bought guns since 2012 and even spent from 2012 to 2014 the equivalent of more than 2500 dollars on them.
- There are many recordings and photos that demonstrate that his social life was not as described by him in the manifesto and diary.

- According to one of Elliot's friends, he manipulated his voice in the videos. therefore Elliot's voice on the recordings did not match his normal voice.
- Elliot deliberately did not reveal such data either in the diary or in the manifesto directly, but it is possible to see effects of such data in what is described.
- Elliot has stabbed one of his colleagues 94 times, displaying unusual coldness.
- Elliot's manipulation of data demonstrates that he planned the attack and created a rhetoric to pass for the eyes of observers as a victim of society.
- He used youtube to praise the Virginia Tech shooter, but he never produced any content about it or any other topic that was not the same as his manifesto and diary.
- Probably Elliot's misogyny wasn't necessarily the cause of the attack as he wanted it to go.
- he probably studied about Sandy Hook, mainly because he kept track of everything.
- Within astrology, some of his settings match Adolf Hitler's and Adam Lanza birth chart settings. Venus conjunction Mars for Hitler and Sttelium in Capricorn For Adam Lanza with the same planets.
- Everything he wrote and the videos he made were probably already planned as part of a gigantic plan as already mentioned, this demonstrating that Elliot was probably the most manipulative and cunning mass shooter in history.
- Although much of the Alt-Right movement denies it, Elliot was a part of them.
- Elliot was a radical misanthrope.
- It is very strange for a misogynist to have a friendly relationship with another older girl, as mentioned earlier. therefore Elliot's misogyny is questionable as well.
- Elliot had a high IQ and was not so antisocial as to get what is described. this is confirmed with photos of Elliot's childhood and even adolescence.
- According to one of Elliot's friends, he manipulated his voice in the videos. therefore Elliot's voice on the recordings did not match his normal voice.
- Elliot deliberately did not reveal such data either in the diary or in the manifesto directly, but it is possible to see effects of such data in what is described.
- Elliot has stabbed one of his colleagues 94 times, displaying unusual coldness.
- Elliot's manipulation of data demonstrates that he planned the attack and created a rhetoric to pass for the eyes of observers as a victim of society.
- He used youtube to praise the Virginia Tech shooter, but he never produced any content about it or any other topic that was not the same as his manifesto and diary.
- Probably Elliot's misogyny wasn't necessarily the cause of the attack as he wanted it to go.
- he probably studied about Sandy Hook, mainly because he kept track of everything.
- Within astrology, some of his settings match Adolf Hitler's and Adam Lanza birth chart settings. Venus conjunction Mars for Hitler and Sttelium in Capricorn For Adam Lanza with the same planets.
- Everything he wrote and the videos he made were probably already planned as part of a gigantic plan as already mentioned, this demonstrating that Elliot was probably the most manipulative and cunning mass shooter in history.
- Although much of the Alt-Right movement denies it, Elliot was a part of them.
- Elliot was a radical misanthrope.
- It is very strange for a misogynist to have a friendly relationship with another older girl, as mentioned earlier. therefore Elliot's misogyny is questionable as well.
- Elliot had a high IQ and was not so antisocial as to get what is described. this is confirmed with photos of Elliot's childhood and even adolescence.
https://schoolshooters.info/sites/default/files/ISLAVISTAINVESTIGATIVESUMMARY.pdf
what I'm finding strange is the superficiality of the official report. simply the Sheriff who carried out the investigation as well as the entire police department left aside all the possible schematization carried out by Elliot and treated numerous topics as if it were "pure coincidence". this could even be if we were talking about a natural phenomenon. however, we are talking about something planned. Regarding Himmler's question, it is comical to note that on page 5 of the report there is the following consideration:
Upon review of the suspect’s internet search history investigators have learned that the suspect
was very interested in some of the practices and techniques of the Third Reich. The suspect’s indepth research included information about Joseph Goebbels and Heinrich Himmler, two infamousmembers of the Nazi hierarchy. Himmler’s date of death was May 23rd; however, this fact appearsto be purely coincidental. In actuality, the suspect made specific mention of planning the rampage on a much earlier date, during the annual Deltopia event, but decided against it due to the increased police presence in Isla Vista
.
What's really strange about this preposition is that unless Elliot had some sort of Alzheimer's that made him forget the symbolism of the date of the attack, you can't make a statement like that logically according to all the data described. another important thing: The police in this report left out many other things, such as Elliot's use of youtube channels in honor of Seung-Hui Cho as it has even been pointed out right here on the forum: https://columbinemassacre.forumotion.com/t6903-how-familiar-was-elliot-rodger-with-seung-hui-cho https://incels.is/threads/did-columbine-indirectly-inspire-er-and-am.67389/
Page 54/55 of the Isla Vista Attack report: Suspect’s Finances
The suspect used a Chase debit card to make most of his purchases. The debit card was linked to a Chase checking account that was only in the suspect’s name. The suspect received a monthly allowance of $500 per month from Peter. The suspect also received additional monetary deposits into his checking account from other family members. The suspect’s Chase checking account included the following transactions of interest:
12-4-12 $755.57 – Goleta Valley Gun & Supply, a firearms dealer in
Goleta, CA163
3-12-13 $1,179.48 – Gun World, a firearms dealer in Burbank, CA164
3-13-13 $460.00 – Botach Tactical, a tactical equipment dealer in Los
Angeles, CA165
3-29-13 $92.60 – The Target Range, a shooting range in Van Nuys, CA
1-17-14 $32.51 – Goleta Valley Gun & Supply
2-14-14 $109.09 – The Target Range
2-22-14 $1,132.00 – B&G Guns, a firearms dealer in Oxnard, CA166
2-22-14 $121.48 – Shooter’s Paradise, a shooting range in Oxnard, CA167
2-25-14 $39.51 – Shooter’s Paradise
3-15-14 $99.30 – Shooter’s Paradise168
3-20-14 $551.65 – Ammo To Go, an online ammunition supplier in
Houston, TX169
3-20-14 $489.35 – Top Gun Supply, an online firearms supplies dealer in
Chesterfield, OH170
4-18-14 $110.51 – Shooter’s Paradise
4-23-14 $226.27 – The Target Range
The suspect’s financial history shows that his planning for this tragedy, with respect to purchasing weapons, started in December of 2012. The purchase of the Glock 34 pistol on December 4, 2012 can be considered his first overt act in furtherance in the planning of the mass murder. The suspect’s financial records also show his increased spending in firearms-related materials and shooting practice in the months leading up to May 23, 2014.171 This activity indicates the suspect was “ramping up” in the planning and rehearsing stages prior to committing the crimes on May 23, 2014. The suspect’s last Chase debit card transaction was on May 23, 2014 at 1938 hours. He purchased a triple vanilla latte for $4.90 from the Isla Vista Starbucks.

Important points:

- Elliot, despite having described that he changed his mind numerous times regarding the date of the attack, does not demonstrate such a statement in practice with the purchase of weapons.
- It was to be expected that there would be an increase in the purchase of weapons by him in 2013 and in 2012 at the same rate as in 2014 to have full assurance that he really was wanting to make an attack of such magnitude in dates in those years.
- As I have already pointed out in previous articles, the police report is quite imprecise in a general observation of all the events and data left inside and outside it. it is not known why.
- Elliot lied and purposely omitted numerous facts in the media he left.
- there is no evidence beyond Elliot's rigged media that actually demonstrates that his attack has been rescheduled. the report's failure to realize this is clear and extremely puzzling.
- Elliot was certainly much more than a misogynistic idiot.

that sounds unreal, but yes. If you've followed the articles I've done, it has already been shown that Elliot deliberately manipulated his written and digital media, purposefully omitting and manipulating facts and data in order to create a narrative for his attack. However, it seems that his biggest secret into which he hammered the entire manifesto, that of sexuality, was revealed not even by the refutation of his manifesto and diary, but by the clearest and at the same time unnoticed thing in it all: The attacks of melee weapon/knife he made against his roommates. let's read what the police left in the report regarding the attacks and how criminalistics treats attacks of this type.:
Weihan Wang
Weihan Wang was a 20-year-old UCSB student and Isla Vista resident. On May 24, 2014, Wang
was found deceased in his apartment, located at 6598 Seville Road #7.
Pathologist Robert Anthony M.D. conducted the autopsy and consulted with coroner’s detectives
to determine the cause and manner of death. The findings were as follows: The cause of death was multiple stab wounds. A total of 15 stab wounds and 23 incision wounds
were present, which caused injury to the head, neck, chest, back and both arms and hands. Three
stab wounds and three incision wounds were present on the neck area, resulting in penetration of
the carotid artery and jugular vein. Eight stab wounds and one incision wound were present on
the upper torso (front and back), resulting in penetration of both lungs. Multiple incision wounds
were present on the hands and arms, consistent with defensive wounds. The left brachial artery
was cut.
There was initial concern that the victims murdered inside of 6598 Seville Road #7 had been
incapacitated by drugs. However, results of toxicology tests revealed no evidence of incapacitating
substances present within the body.
The manner of death was determined to be a HOMICIDE, based upon evidence collected and
evaluated during the Coroner’s investigation and autopsy, in conjunction with evidence and
witness statements gathered during the criminal investigation conducted by the Sheriff’s Criminal
Investigations Division.

Chen Hong
Chen Hong was a 20-year-old UCSB student and Isla Vista resident. On May 24, 2014, Hong was
found deceased in his apartment, located at 6598 Seville Road #7.
Pathologist Robert Anthony M.D. conducted the autopsy and consulted with coroner’s detectives
to determine the cause and manner of death. The findings were as follows:
The cause of death was multiple stab wounds. A total of 25 stab wounds and 12 incision wounds
were present which caused injury to the head, neck, chest, back and both arms and hands. Six stab
wounds and one incision wound were present on the neck area. Twelve stab wounds and one
incision wound were present on the upper torso (front and back), resulting in penetration of the
right lung and cutting of the bowel. Five of the stab wounds on the back were apparent postmortem injuries. Multiple incision wounds were present on the hands and arms, consistent with
defensive wounds. Results of toxicology tests revealed no evidence of incapacitating substances
present within the body.
The manner of death was determined to be a HOMICIDE, based upon evidence collected and
evaluated during the Coroner’s investigation and autopsy, in conjunction with evidence and
witness statements gathered during the criminal investigation conducted by the Sheriff’s Criminal
Investigations Division.

George Chen
George Chen was a 19-year-old UCSB student residing in student housing on the UCSB campus.
On May 24, 2014, Chen was found deceased in the apartment located at 6598 Seville Road #7.
Pathologist Jon Smith M.D. conducted the autopsy and consulted with coroner’s detectives to
determine the cause and manner of death. The findings were as follows: The cause of death was multiple stab wounds. A total of 94 stab wounds and 11 incision wounds
were present which caused injury to the head, neck, chest, back and both arms and hands. Twentythree stab wounds and three incision wounds were present on the neck area resulting in penetration
of the carotid artery and jugular vein. Fifty-four stab wounds were present on the upper torso
(front and back), resulting in penetrations of the heart, left lung, left kidney, pancreas, spleen and
liver. Multiple stab wounds and incision wounds were present on the hands and arms, consistent
with defensive wounds. Results of toxicology tests revealed no evidence of incapacitating
substances present within the body.
The manner of death was determined to be a HOMICIDE, based upon evidence collected and
evaluated during the Coroner’s investigation and autopsy, in conjunction with evidence and
witness statements gathered during the criminal investigation conducted by the Sheriff’s Criminal
Investigations Division.

Knight's Forensic Pathology',(3rd Ed) Saukko P. and B. Knight (2004) Arnold Publishers, London, page 428: As with heterosexual offenses, the cause of death in fatal cases is almost always some form of general trauma, such as strangulation or head injuries. Homosexual activity, however, may be a parallel event; it is a fact that some of the most violent homicides seen by pathologists are among male homosexuals.

The Encyclopedia of Serial Killers by Michael Newton, page 103: Homosexual slayers clearly have no monopoly on violence, but it is true that their crimes often display extremes of "overkill" and mutilation... On balance, it seems fair to say that while homosexuals sometimes fall prey to "gay bashing" violence by bigoted "straights," they are far more likely to be murdered by another homosexual than in a random hate crime.

Homicide in homosexual victims: a study of 67 cases from the Broward County, Florida, Medical Examiner's office (1982-1992) https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8838474/: Forensic pathologists often state that homosexual homicides are more violent than those with heterosexual victims. Overkill or wounding far beyond that required to cause death is a frequently used descriptor of these deaths. We quantified the number and extent of injuries between homosexual and heterosexual homicide victims to determine whether one group suffered more violence than the other...Homosexual homicides are more violent than heterosexual homicides when one compares the mean number of injuries (fatal sharp, blunt, and total)/case and the extent of injuries on the body.

Journal of Indian Academy of Forensic Medicine states regarding homosexual murders https://web.archive.org/web/20150415225302/http://medind.nic.in/jal/t05/i3/jalt05i3p184.pdf: These "Lovers' quarrels" between male homosexuals manifest an increased level of violence due to the fact that the parties involved in the emotional conflict are both sexual aggressors... The reason/motivation for the crime is an extremely important consideration in establishing the investigations direction i.e. if the murder was the result of a lover's quarrel or due to interpersonal violence was it due to a rape/sodomy attempt, lastly is it the work of a sexual psychopath with sadistic or impulsive implications?


In the criminal literature, very violent crimes related to the use of bladed weapons are evidence that the killer is gay.. It is very naive to think that a person is 100% sincere in a manifesto, diary and others, especially when it comes to criminals. therefore, it is more than clear following the EVIDENCE and not THE OPINIONS MANIPULATED BY ELLIOT HIMSELF, that at the very least, the way the crime took place corresponds to a gay murderer.

Elliot had been planning the attack carefully since 2012. If the goal had always been the fraternity, he would have known how the entrance works, who was there, the times, everything. comparing the two cases, state of consciousness and also taking into account the preparation time, it is practically ignorant to accept that Elliot really aimed at the fraternity, as the target of the attack, because if that were the case he could have easily entered by checking the time or breaking into the entrances through the weapons he had in his car on the day of the attack. which means that, in fact, the Brotherhood was a scapegoat, and this is confirmed when we consider that he architected his media narrative. This means that, in fact, the focus of the attack HAS ALWAYS BEEN A SHOOTING IN PUBLIC SPACE, which is also confirmed by the study of the last research found in Elliot's history regarding attacks which was the Xinjiang attack in 2014. Deadly China blast at Xinjiang railway station: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-27225308
Santa Barbara Killer Smiled Before Shooting, Survivor Says: https://abcnews.go.com/US/santa-bar...er-smiled-shooting-survivor/story?id=23923970

Elliot's personality is as cold as a glacier in Russia in the dead of winter. if we remove as we should his media and do a critical analysis on the data, we will see that he cannot fit in the "diagnosed disorders" to him. the thing is much deeper. the capacity for deliberate manipulation arises from an analytical intelligence, which is also demonstrated in writing. he created all the narrative he produced, through websites, manifesto, diary and others. the reason for all this is a mystery and we could be talking about an absolutely Lovecraftian case from the beginning. Elliot's Misanthropy certainly didn't come because of women's denial of him, and probably his "misogyny" was also something deliberately contrived. his former roommate Spencer's account is clear: "He always stays in the room." time to plan, study high-level literature on political and other aspects he had. he prepared the crime scene in a planned way, which can be visualized with the description given in the official report:
The suspect's apartment (6598 Seville Road #7) and bedroom were searched and photodocumented pursuant to a search warrant.
The suspect's bedroom was in a state of disarray. The room was cluttered with numerous items
strewn on the floor. A laptop computer was on top of the suspect's bed. The screen was flipped
open and turned on, displaying a YouTube page acknowledging that a video had just been
uploaded. A screen shot from the suspect’s “Retribution” video was visible on this YouTube page,
which was illuminated on the laptop's screen.
The fitted sheet on the suspect's bed had numerous slash and stab marks on the corner. several
areas of this blue-colored fitted sheet contained dried blood consistent with drops and smears.
Several pillows on the bed also had numerous stab marks in the pillow cases. The presence of this
damage suggests that the suspect may have been practicing his stabbing/slashing movements in
order to rehearse and prepare himself for the attacks against his victims.
A long-sleeve, button-up shirt and denim pants were found on the bed, entangled in the sheets and
bedspread. A significant amount of dried blood was present on the sleeves and front, torso-area
of this shirt. The majority of this blood was confined to the ends of the shirt sleeves, near the cuffs.
The denim pants also had a significant amount of dried blood concentrated on the front of the pant
legs This evidence suggests that the suspect wore these clothes when he murdered Weihan Wang,
Cheng Hong and George Chen. A television stand was located on the opposite wall from the bed. Two open “Monster” energy
drinks were on the stand next to an array of miscellaneous items. One empty 9mm Glock magazine
was on the stand next to a single unexpended round of 9mm ammunition.
The following video games were recovered from the suspect’s bedroom:
 World of Warcraft III – Frozen Throng
 World of Warcraft III – Reign of Chaos
 Gears of War
 Call of Duty – World at War
 Call of Duty 2 – Modern Warfare
 Call of Duty 4 – Modern Warfare
 Halo – Reach
 Halo – Combat Evolved
 Halo 2
 Halo 3
A desk inside the suspect’s bedroom contained the following items:
One folding knife with blade locked open
One “Zombie Killer” fixed-blade knife with 10” blade
One machete with 18” blade
One small “Husky” brand sledge hammer
NOTE: No suspected blood was found on the four above weapons
Starbucks coffee cup
One open bottle of Maine Root brand “Ginger Brew”
One open bottle of Raventos i Blanc Reserva Brut 2009 CAVA (Spanish champagne)
The suspect’s printed manifesto. The title page is visible on top of the stack of papers.
Handwritten journal open to a page with the last entry dated 5-23-14.
106
The journal was
positioned on the left side of the manifesto. Several pages had been torn out from the
journal, but returned and aligned with the spine of the book. The following was written
under the 5-23-14 entry:
5/23/14
I had to tear some pages out because I feared my intentions would be discovered.
I taped them back together as fast as I could
This is it. In one hour I will have my revenge on this cruel world. I HATE YOU
ALLLL! DIE
Additional items found in the suspect’s bedroom:107
Empty "Boar Hunter" Cold Steel knife box
Two empty boxes of Winchester 9mm Luger PDX1 Defender ammunition
Two gun cleaning kits
Numerous lottery tickets
Art of Seduction book 108
Hand drawing of someone being stabbed with knives
Pharmacy paperwork for the suspect listing the following medications:
Lorazepam 0.5mg, dated 11-15-12
Escitalopram 10 mg, dated 11-7-12
VIT D2 1.25 mg, dated 11-
we see there that the crime scene was deliberately set up. this is a feature that proves Analytical Intelligence again. he planned down to the smallest details having time right after the murders of his colleagues. to say that your attack was a failure or a desperate one is a big mistake. we are certainly facing a case that the personality of the individual is a real enigma. however, based on everything we have, we can say that he was:
- Extreme Manipulator
- perfectionist
- Possessed analytical intelligence
- Regular reader
- Observer
- Emotion Controller publicly
- violent
- Intellectual Extremist.

It is necessary to review the case immediately. Elliot was hailed as a "victim of society" which he never was.
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Pekka Eric Auvinen was the finnish ER, both looked asian too
 
Shall read later. Too bad you're banned :feelsjuice:
 
He said that this was the first nude picture that he's ever seen from a woman, and that woman happened to be me

Was ER pornfree?
 
He said that this was the first nude picture that he's ever seen from a woman, and that woman happened to be me

Was ER pornfree?

He visited an Internet cafe.
 
If you read his autobiography it is clear he is a master manipulator. He constantly manipulates his parents into giving him what he wants.

His political ideology is also very similar to Hitler with him at the top and everyone else at the bottom (he even proposes putting women into concentration camps near the end).

It is also clear in his book that he does not care about male virgins but only himself. His logic for making himself totalitarian ruler of the new world is that he can't get laid so nobody else can. Is that really the best you can come up with?

Not to mention the fact that books like The Game, The Mystery Method, Models and much more had come out before his murder spree yet he makes no mention of them (yet he apparently spends all of his time at Barnes and Noble, you really never checked out the dating section?).

I think it is absolutely plausible he was a virgin, didn't really think about it much for most of his life, decided he wanted to murder a bunch of people to gain infamy and used that as a basis to craft his narrative.

I also, however, do think that is equally plausible that the constant rejection he had experienced from women over the years led to compounded anger which eventually resulted in him doing the horrendous act that he did (and it was horrendous let's not mince words).

For me the big lesson from ER is personal accountability. You cannot blame a woman for rejecting you if you haven't even approached her, you cannot blame your parents for not helping you get laid when they provided everything for you and you cannot get angry at couples just because you yourself are not having sex. All of this is utterly ridiculous and I find it hard to believe that anyone, even the most radical incel, thinks in this manner.

At some point, you have to grow up and stop acting like a girl (as I myself have done in the past) blaming everyone else for your problems and crying to mommy on the phone about it.

You have to start looking inwards.
 
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His supporters are trolls anyways or autists
 
Bump. Extremely well-researched and underrated thread.
 

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