(longpost but effortpost so I'd appreciate the read if you've got time)
I would wager that a pretty significant chunk of the male population globally is incel or incel-adjacent (maybe having had pity-sex once or twice) and the only reason we are able to be utterly ignored and/or ridiculed to no end is because as a group we are in a pretty pathetic state.
I know, I know, but hear me out on this.
Half the discussion on this board and other incel spaces concerns "copes" or vices that distract us from our lack of intimate experience & resulting depression. Believe me, I get it, I spent a good 4 years of my life utterly addicted to drugs of all kinds just to keep myself from thinking about the reality of my place in the world. I was forced to get sober for reasons I'd rather not get into but once I did my whole worldview rapidly changed from what I would describe as quintessentially bluepilled and delusional ("Just gotta find the right girl, man! Gotta work on my personality! Gotta get therapy! Just gotta respect women, gotta be nice," etc etc) to extremely blackpilled and disillusioned with the state of reality.
I quickly tried to fill the void of not being high all the time with a partner, unsuccessfully, and immediately several things you're all familiar with became undeniable such as 80/20 rule, hypergamy in general, dysgenics, gynocentric society, dating apps being stacked in favor of women's hypergamy, etc etc. And honestly I'm so sure that these things are real that I would consider anyone in denial of them to be clinically delusional.
And I think part of the reason this delusion is able to be maintained over the masses is because recognizing them as true is incredibly cognitively dissonant for normies. For example, if you posit that life for the majority of people was objectively better with arranged marriage, they may recognize the data you use to back up this position as true but ultimately reject the conclusion because it would be in conflict with the current social order (gynocentric) and normies RUN EVERY THOUGHT THEY CONSIDER THROUGH A FILTER: "Is it socially acceptable for me to hold this view?" And their conclusion inevitably is "no it's not so it must not be true." You can see this play out with recent shooting "conspiracy theories" too where people question the official narrative and give credible evidence that is ultimately ignored because it would put their thoughts in conflict with their media-conditioned emotional response to the event in question. ("but there are children who died!!!!")
People on the outskirts of society don't have this "is this acceptable to believe?" filter because they already have nothing to lose socially. So when presented with an argument they just think "is this true?"
Ok I'm starting to digress so back to my point:
Relative peace is able to be maintained despite overwhelmingly unacceptable prognosis for male fulfillment because of mind-numbing vices, or for us, "copes." My beliefs came to the reality of the blackpill pretty much in parallel with my recovery of cognitive (and endocrine) function that had been suppressed by drugs. But drugs aren't the only cope that suppresses your thinking. Porn, mass media, video games, alcoholism (in moderation shouldn't be an issue), etc. These things keep you at a baseline of contentedness so you don't actively pursue improvement of your situation or advocate for yourself. Vices also make normie brains malleable to conditioning and social consensus, hence why IT and other cucks refuse to acknowledge any argument we make in favor of overused one-liners and platitudes about "muh sexism!!" etc.
A lot of incels are current users of vices yet are still blackpilled. I think this is because we are generally a more intelligent population than normies on average so the retardation caused by copes doesn't necessarily completely bluepill us.
Ok so say we all sacrifice our copes and recover to a baseline of cognitive/physical function? What then? Well I would wager the result would be a lot of angry dissatisfied disillusioned young men. Yeah you might still be ugly but now you're ugly and you fully recognize it, and you're formidable because maybe you've been going to the gym. Now, you're not a weak junky incel - you're an unhappy and scary but competent man.
Now say a bunch of these guys organize and begin working together dismantle the gynocentric elements of society that has made them misarable. You're probably laughing at me right now but this is happening RIGHT NOW in South Korea, so an organized movement of incels is possible.
All you have to do is give up your vices so you are not kept perpetually placated, and it will quickly become apparent that your current conditions are not tolerable. If enough incels do this we will become impossible to ignore.
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As a final note, I think it's important for me to say that what I'm proposing here only hastens what is inevitable, as I've already discussed in a previous longpost that I think a collapse of society (in North America at least) is fairly imminent. Such a collapse will result in a more or less complete loss of access to copes, which will guarantee a massive social upheaval. A loss of centralized power in NA will necessitate that women attach themselves to men as the state no longer exists to protect them, etc. It would benefit incels greatly to organize BEFORE such a collapse so that we are in an advantageous position when it happens.
I would wager that a pretty significant chunk of the male population globally is incel or incel-adjacent (maybe having had pity-sex once or twice) and the only reason we are able to be utterly ignored and/or ridiculed to no end is because as a group we are in a pretty pathetic state.
I know, I know, but hear me out on this.
Half the discussion on this board and other incel spaces concerns "copes" or vices that distract us from our lack of intimate experience & resulting depression. Believe me, I get it, I spent a good 4 years of my life utterly addicted to drugs of all kinds just to keep myself from thinking about the reality of my place in the world. I was forced to get sober for reasons I'd rather not get into but once I did my whole worldview rapidly changed from what I would describe as quintessentially bluepilled and delusional ("Just gotta find the right girl, man! Gotta work on my personality! Gotta get therapy! Just gotta respect women, gotta be nice," etc etc) to extremely blackpilled and disillusioned with the state of reality.
I quickly tried to fill the void of not being high all the time with a partner, unsuccessfully, and immediately several things you're all familiar with became undeniable such as 80/20 rule, hypergamy in general, dysgenics, gynocentric society, dating apps being stacked in favor of women's hypergamy, etc etc. And honestly I'm so sure that these things are real that I would consider anyone in denial of them to be clinically delusional.
And I think part of the reason this delusion is able to be maintained over the masses is because recognizing them as true is incredibly cognitively dissonant for normies. For example, if you posit that life for the majority of people was objectively better with arranged marriage, they may recognize the data you use to back up this position as true but ultimately reject the conclusion because it would be in conflict with the current social order (gynocentric) and normies RUN EVERY THOUGHT THEY CONSIDER THROUGH A FILTER: "Is it socially acceptable for me to hold this view?" And their conclusion inevitably is "no it's not so it must not be true." You can see this play out with recent shooting "conspiracy theories" too where people question the official narrative and give credible evidence that is ultimately ignored because it would put their thoughts in conflict with their media-conditioned emotional response to the event in question. ("but there are children who died!!!!")
People on the outskirts of society don't have this "is this acceptable to believe?" filter because they already have nothing to lose socially. So when presented with an argument they just think "is this true?"
Ok I'm starting to digress so back to my point:
Relative peace is able to be maintained despite overwhelmingly unacceptable prognosis for male fulfillment because of mind-numbing vices, or for us, "copes." My beliefs came to the reality of the blackpill pretty much in parallel with my recovery of cognitive (and endocrine) function that had been suppressed by drugs. But drugs aren't the only cope that suppresses your thinking. Porn, mass media, video games, alcoholism (in moderation shouldn't be an issue), etc. These things keep you at a baseline of contentedness so you don't actively pursue improvement of your situation or advocate for yourself. Vices also make normie brains malleable to conditioning and social consensus, hence why IT and other cucks refuse to acknowledge any argument we make in favor of overused one-liners and platitudes about "muh sexism!!" etc.
A lot of incels are current users of vices yet are still blackpilled. I think this is because we are generally a more intelligent population than normies on average so the retardation caused by copes doesn't necessarily completely bluepill us.
Ok so say we all sacrifice our copes and recover to a baseline of cognitive/physical function? What then? Well I would wager the result would be a lot of angry dissatisfied disillusioned young men. Yeah you might still be ugly but now you're ugly and you fully recognize it, and you're formidable because maybe you've been going to the gym. Now, you're not a weak junky incel - you're an unhappy and scary but competent man.
Now say a bunch of these guys organize and begin working together dismantle the gynocentric elements of society that has made them misarable. You're probably laughing at me right now but this is happening RIGHT NOW in South Korea, so an organized movement of incels is possible.
All you have to do is give up your vices so you are not kept perpetually placated, and it will quickly become apparent that your current conditions are not tolerable. If enough incels do this we will become impossible to ignore.
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As a final note, I think it's important for me to say that what I'm proposing here only hastens what is inevitable, as I've already discussed in a previous longpost that I think a collapse of society (in North America at least) is fairly imminent. Such a collapse will result in a more or less complete loss of access to copes, which will guarantee a massive social upheaval. A loss of centralized power in NA will necessitate that women attach themselves to men as the state no longer exists to protect them, etc. It would benefit incels greatly to organize BEFORE such a collapse so that we are in an advantageous position when it happens.
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