Incels have superior genetics --- and selection of chads will destroy the species

[leftyincel]

done with this inferior genetics crap

I personally don't have superior genetics as my epi-genetics got fucked up through life experience, but most incels have superior genetics

most incels are extremely smart and kind/intelligent, the kind of values useful in post-industrial-age

people still pass on genes as if we are still getting in fistfights over resource scarcity, this won't be good for human survival, women are choosing sexually dimorphous agressive men to a point where it may actually be a threat to human civilization through nuclear bombs and shit.

civilization demands cooperation, kindness, etc for human survival, the exact opposite of what women typically select for

complete freedom of female sexuality in a sexually dimorphous dating market is going to cause rapid civilizatonal decline with the aid of technology

"Male-female differences linked to risk of extinction, new study finds"
https://www.zmescience.com/ecology/animals-ecology/sexual-dimorphism-extinction-43242/

 

[Zyros]

done with this inferior genetics crap

most incels are extremely smart and kind/intelligent, the kind of values useful in post-industrial-age

https://www.zmescience.com/ecology/animals-ecology/sexual-dimorphism-extinction-43242/

major cope. Most incels want to think they at least are intelligent and Chad is dumb but studies show that attractiveness is often correlated with intelligence, even if there may be exceptions.

Most of the most intelligent persons I know are all above average looking.

 

[leftyincel]

major cope. Most incels want to think they at least are intelligent and Chad is dumb but studies show that attractiveness is often correlated with intelligence, even if there may be exceptions.

Most of the most intelligent persons I know are all above average looking.

"The study, led by sociologist Rosemary Hopcroft from the University of North
Carolina, argues that: “Intelligence is negatively associated with sex
frequency.”

https://www.thesun.co.uk/archives/news/182154/why-intelligent-people-are-less-likely-to-have-sex/

Inferior genetics is the biggest cope, friend.

 

[StaroRavager]

most incels are extremely smart and kind/intelligent, the kind of values useful in post-industrial-age

Nice guy game will do you no favors my friend and intelligence is only as good as its wielder

 

[Deleted member 2798]

You've got the right idea, but the solution to combatting Chad worshipping genetic determinism isn't to substitute in its place deluded and self-congratulatory "rational" Darwinism. Nothing - that you can predict, anyway - is going to be "good for the species" with any kind of certainty.

All of this shit is a myopic, soulless pox. But judging by the responses you're getting, I'd advise you to keep going forward. Why people want to make their "inferiority" extensible to every domain of life is beyond me, but I've yet to see anything more convincing than biased, child-study scientism.

 

[Deleted member 14490]

>most incels are extremely smart and kind/intelligent,

this meme again

 

[GetFucked]

I would say most incels do have higher than average iqs but I would not say it is universal. One advantage we do have is the ability to cope with loneliness as we've lived our lives as outcasts. Also being jaded kind of makes you open your eyes to how fucked up our decadent society is.

 

[Deleted member 2798]

those studies are the best we have as a substantial proof when we discuss the issue. Scientists and Evolutionary Psychologists(people who LITERALLY devote their lives to that shit rather than posting on incel forums) already offer extrinsic and intrinsic reason why this significant correlation between looks and higher IQ exists.

Sure. So why should I take their interpretation by another poster on an incel forum as being definitive?

I'm no statistician and I can't tease apart their analyses for missteps. What I can do is to identify basic errors in sample collection that prevent the conclusions of the study being extensible to the broader world.

Think of it this way: I'm trying to learn about attraction to men who have female friends. I go on a college campus, look for males and females in groups with 2+ females, and ask the female in each group to estimate her male friend's attractiveness to other women. For a control, I ask the same women to rate the attractiveness of men sitting alone. Hell, I'll even go to several campuses. Obvious problems in the design right? So should the results be accepted due to being the "best (only) we have"? Why not just reserve judgment for better ones?

There also exists a meta-analysis contradicting the findings of the oft-cited UK child study. I can't see the case as being "open-and-shut" and don't think stacking unread studies up behind a point is a better way to make it than to draw from your own observations (as though "anecdotal" were an absolutely valid pejorative).

Cope however you want. There IS a significant correlation between looks and IQ. proven time and time again. Both by small size and national size longitudinal studies. You can't oversimply it by saying "basic child studies".
This isnt to say every ugly incel is dumb. They have 20k+ sample size, very high regression coefficient, very high level of confidence. and that is with controlling for shit ton of factors.

None of that matters if they're testing a population entirely unrelated to our own, or if the basic design of the investigation is permeable to bias. Evaluating pre/pubescent kids (using the reports of their own teachers) and extending the findings to adults is a laughable overreach.

Post the very best, most well-designed, largest N study you've come across demonstrating that attractive men are more intelligent. I assume (hope) it won't be the child study.

Those studies dont say every uggo is dumb. Every incel reading this post could be a genius and it still wouldnt change a damn thing.

Yeah of course not, which is why it's ridiculous to call countering this opinion "coping". I have seen absolutely no evidence in my life that Chads are, on average, very intelligent at all - rather the opposite. I haven't noticed the severely ugly tending in either direction: I grew up around a lot of nearly-retarded 3/10s, but I've also seen plenty of remarkably keen ones.

If one, or even a few, studies is supposed to be the final statement on the matter, it seems odd that the conclusions they have reached should so thoroughly contradict everything I have seen with my own eyes. If I am an unreliable observer, so too is the system set up by a band of specialists to apprehend and model the same phenomenological world that we both are attempting to describe. Is rational "method" more reliable than intuitive perception? The hastily constructed versus the generationally forged?

If I were to try myself to place the intelligences of the very ugly against the very attractive, they'd both probably come out slightly lower than the merely average.

Also learn what chad worshipping is. Calling it as it is, is NOT chad worshipping. Blackpill is about embracing the TRUTH, no matter how uncomfortable it is.

Every time I see someone advocate the "Chad has an infallibly, globally good set of genes" position, they seem set to it so obstinately that they set out wanting to believe it. Confirmation bias, as it were.

 

[Deleted member 7573]

cope but I really wished that was the case.

 

[Deleted member 10531]

most incels are extremely smart and kind/intelligent

No they aren't, most incels are slightly below-average. Maybe most incels.is users are average to slightly above-average, and the blackpill certainly takes some intelligence to accept, but in general, the only common denominator among incels is their inceldom.

 

[leftyincel]

Nice guy game will do you no favors my friend and intelligence is only as good as its wielder

who the fuck uses this forum for dating? YOu didn't address the truth value of the OP

No they aren't, most incels are slightly below-average. Maybe most incels.is users are average to slightly above-average, and the blackpill certainly takes some intelligence to accept, but in general, the only common denominator among incels is their inceldom.

incels.is is not representative of on-the-ground incels it's representative of chan culture

You've got the right idea, but the solution to combatting Chad worshipping genetic determinism isn't to substitute in its place deluded and self-congratulatory "rational" Darwinism. Nothing - that you can predict, anyway - is going to be "good for the species" with any kind of certainty.

All of this shit is a myopic, soulless pox. But judging by the responses you're getting, I'd advise you to keep going forward. Why people want to make their "inferiority" extensible to every domain of life is beyond me, but I've yet to see anything more convincing than biased, child-study scientism.

It's true that trying to argue for superior genetics is difficult and isn't a good look, I'm just trying to combat the IT meme of 'inferior genetics' that is just based off nothing but anti-incel sentiment and internatlized incelphobia.

The idea of incels being so genetically inferior that they should sui or the like is the exact thing i'd want incels to believe if I were anti-incel. ANd quite frankly most incels I know IRL aren't horrible monsters or devoid of societal value

 

[Sensoryprocessingcel]

major cope. Most incels want to think they at least are intelligent and Chad is dumb but studies show that attractiveness is often correlated with intelligence, even if there may be exceptions.

Most of the most intelligent persons I know are all above average looking.

Ofc its easier to focus on acedemics when you arent worried about you or your son being treated like slaves tho...

 

[Honeypot]

done with this inferior genetics crap

I personally don't have superior genetics as my epi-genetics got fucked up through life experience, but most incels have superior genetics

most incels are extremely smart and kind/intelligent, the kind of values useful in post-industrial-age

people still pass on genes as if we are still getting in fistfights over resource scarcity, this won't be good for human survival, women are choosing sexually dimorphous agressive men to a point where it may actually be a threat to human civilization through nuclear bombs and shit.

civilization demands cooperation, kindness, etc for human survival, the exact opposite of what women typically select for

complete freedom of female sexuality in a sexually dimorphous dating market is going to cause rapid civilizatonal decline with the aid of technology

"Male-female differences linked to risk of extinction, new study finds"
https://www.zmescience.com/ecology/animals-ecology/sexual-dimorphism-extinction-43242/

I knew this long time ago, we will be one of these long lost civilizations like Egypt that no body ever nows of the fuck they did crazy high IQ things like the pyramids and all because the female sexual liberation.

 

[Deleted member 2798]

It's true that trying to argue for superior genetics is difficult and isn't a good look, I'm just trying to combat the IT meme of 'inferior genetics' that is just based off nothing but anti-incel sentiment and internatlized incelphobia.

The idea of incels being so genetically inferior that they should sui or the like is the exact thing i'd want incels to believe if I were anti-incel. ANd quite frankly most incels I know IRL aren't horrible monsters or devoid of societal value

Ah yeah, exactly. Incel-Tiers is too far sunken in egalitarian dicta to ever really come right out with it - it's implicit in a lot of what they write, though. I do see a fair amount of it on Twitter and desultory other internet playgrounds for slovenly idlers. Still, it's pretty easy to knock around someone who comes out with something as specious and poorly understood as "survival of the fittest".

A lot of it is actually put forth by people here. Thread after thread of people claiming that female sexual selection will be "good" for "future generations". Braindead self-abasement.

I tend to focus more on denigrating the supposed "superiority" of Chads. To pick up their scheme of a rational agent guiding a chain of material causality is an error, though. In this particular case, you're better off attacking their "points" rabidly rather than trying to develop your own. If you're going to make a positive case for your own worth, it should be air-tight and without any kind of nebulousness or pretension.

 

[Asianmanletcel]

people still pass on genes as if we are still getting in fistfights over resource scarcity, this won't be good for human survival, women are choosing sexually dimorphous agressive men to a point where it may actually be a threat to human civilization through nuclear bombs and shit.

civilization demands cooperation, kindness, etc for human survival, the exact opposite of what women typically select for

I hope Trump leads us to extinction

 

[K.Y.Vocel]

done with this inferior genetics crap

I personally don't have superior genetics as my epi-genetics got fucked up through life experience, but most incels have superior genetics

most incels are extremely smart and kind/intelligent, the kind of values useful in post-industrial-age

people still pass on genes as if we are still getting in fistfights over resource scarcity, this won't be good for human survival, women are choosing sexually dimorphous agressive men to a point where it may actually be a threat to human civilization through nuclear bombs and shit.

civilization demands cooperation, kindness, etc for human survival, the exact opposite of what women typically select for

complete freedom of female sexuality in a sexually dimorphous dating market is going to cause rapid civilizatonal decline with the aid of technology

"Male-female differences linked to risk of extinction, new study finds"
https://www.zmescience.com/ecology/animals-ecology/sexual-dimorphism-extinction-43242/

I feel like being over 5,9 is like being a current day English bulldog who's been selectively breeded to look fat and chubby to the point where they sometimes become crippled the equivalent would be a tall person dies earlier is more prone to back problems , requires more calories to stay alive or healthy, slow hunter , could be spotted easily by prey etc you haven't been seeing tall people in history until now , so modern day manlets are survival instruments they can easily bulk up and such, but picking partners so artificially now a days doesn't matter thus manlets are being breeded out of existance this is something foids will regret when real man power is required for survival.

 

[Deleted member 14490]

I feel like being over 5,9 is like being a current day English bulldog who's been selectively breeded to look fat and chubby to the point where they sometimes become crippled the equivalent would be a tall person dies earlier is more prone to back problems , requires more calories to stay alive or healthy, slow hunter , could be spotted easily by prey etc you haven't been seeing tall people in history until now , so modern day manlets are survival instruments they can easily bulk up and such, but picking partners so artificially now a days doesn't matter thus manlets are being breeded out of existance this is something foids will regret when real man power is required for survival.

This is a zettacope man. Being tall >>>>> than being a manlet

 

[Deleted member 14577]

civilization demands cooperation, kindness, etc for human survival, the exact opposite of what women typically select for

Yep, women are the jews of genders

 

[1984cel]

Major cope on incels having better genes. If everyone here was born and raised as Chad, we’d be too busy getting worshipped as alphas to care about these issues

 

[Deleted member 10531]

incels.is is not representative of on-the-ground incels it's representative of chan culture

What is then a representative of incels?

 

[StaroRavager]

who the fuck uses this forum for dating? YOu didn't address the truth value of the OP

I’m saying that kindness and pure IQ is cope

 

[ShadowMonk]

Biologically speaking there is no superior genes. Only genes that proporgate. The Han Chinese phenotypes are currently the most successful. Ghengis's genes are everywhere. Ofcourse this is not due to pure sexual selection which in itself is an imperfect process for determining fitness.

Biology is fascinating.


I only wish it hadn't ruin my sex life.

 

[mylifeistrash]

Your FACIAL ATTRACTIVENESS itself is a better indicator of your IQ level than socioeconomic background of your parents. (higher regression coefficient)
let that sink in.

can't get much more brutal than that

 

[Topkekketus]

giga cope

 

[thePhantom]

Your FACIAL ATTRACTIVENESS itself is a better indicator of your IQ level than socioeconomic background of your parents. (higher regression coefficient)
let that sink in.

That's astonishing. You have a source?

 

[Deleted member 1410]

major cope. Most incels want to think they at least are intelligent and Chad is dumb but studies show that attractiveness is often correlated with intelligence, even if there may be exceptions.

Most of the most intelligent persons I know are all above average looking.

"attractiveness is correlated with intelligence"

who did that study? a bunch of pre-med roasties?

most of the smartest men, even pre-enlightenment were burdensome, ugly or ogrecels.

only a few were relatively attractive by modern standards.

most philosophers had issues with women, we dwell on things too much causing us to age earlier.

 

[Mainländer]

major cope. Most incels want to think they at least are intelligent and Chad is dumb but studies show that attractiveness is often correlated with intelligence, even if there may be exceptions.

Most of the most intelligent persons I know are all above average looking.

Truth. There's some correlation. Hell, just look at our forum. The most intelligent guy here (@Ledgemund ) is self-reportedly tall and gl.

From what I've read the correlation isn't that big though.

.

 

[Deleted member 1410]

@Ledgemund have quite the bond, similar interests, both in the rust belt, similar social and economic stances. I need to meet up with this cat.

 

[Deleted member 2798]

@Ledgemund have quite the bond...both in the rust belt

Formerly. I'm over in bugville right now. I'll certainly be in contact (+ @StormlitAqua) if I ever find myself in Ohio.

 

[Deleted member 1410]

alright man well it would awesome af to meet up.

 

[Deleted member 2798]

@Ledgemund is self-reportedly tall and gl.
.

Wouldn't say good-looking necessarily, but certainly not truecel-tier. Closest likeness I've seen so far would be a less boyish version of this guy (looks about 17, I'm 23):

 

[Mainländer]

Wouldn't say good-looking necessarily, but certainly not truecel-tier. Closest likeness I've seen so far would be a less boyish version of this guy (looks about 17, I'm 23):

Needless to say, but here it goes for meme value:

Mogs me.

 

[Deleted member 1410]

Wouldn't say good-looking necessarily, but certainly not truecel-tier. Closest likeness I've seen so far would be a less boyish version of this guy (looks about 17, I'm 23):

you do mog me in height and I'm over ten years older than you.

 

[jerrycan dan]

major cope

 

[Deleted member 1410]

I basically look like a slightly more attractive GG Allin

 

[Getlooksordie]

the reason why society values good looking people is because they are in fact better at everything they do compared to normal people.

Studies show that good looking people really are better at sports, more intelligent, etc...

Good genes always come in packages. I have never ever met a chad or stacy who were unintelligent.

It´s not just halo effect.

 

[Deleted member 2798]

Lots of talk about "studies have proven" in here, no research at all. I'll start:

No relationship between intelligence and facial attractiveness in a large, genetically informative sample

plus

Biology. Chad couldn't get preventative care for his GRIDS if it weren't for this man.

Mathematics.

Music.

Philosophy.

I basically look like a slightly more attractive GG Allin

Since you brought it up, it struck me that you do look somewhat like Steve Austin in the Temple of the Morning Star insert.

Good genes always come in packages.

Not even close. Baseless geneticope.

I have never ever met a chad or stacy who were unintelligent.

I don't think I've ever met one that wasn't unintelligent. Walk into the business hall of any major university to witness the dumbest fags the place has to offer.

Finding a stupid Stacy? Might as well just be "find a Stacy."

 

[CIA nigger]

Whatever helps you sleep at night buddy boyo ol pal

 

[Animas]

cope

 

[FaceandHFD]

Whatever helps you sleep at night buddy boyo ol pal

Tbh

Nice Avi

 

[lessthanhuman]

Life is a roll of the dice. You have people like Zyzz born with big medical issues but with Chad looks and height, while other Chads are born with low IQ but good health. You can have incels with high IQ and good health, but struck by the misfortune of being ugly.

Of course, you also have people who win every roll of the dice and are born tall Chads with great looks, great health and high IQ, and people who lose every roll of the dice, short incels with low IQ, bad health and also ugly. However, it's also true that genetics congregate, rich men are more likely to be smart and marry hot women, ensuring their kids often have better looks and higher IQ too, while poor people are often forced in the opposite direction.

One thing for sure incels do have over Chads, normies and especially roasties, is that ugly men/incels are actually forced to improve their personality. Not for the sake of attracting women, but just so we don't get our ass beat/constantly attacked. When you are an ugly male, you realize you have far fewer chances to fuck up than better-looking guys, and especially compared to foids who suffer virtually no repercussions whatsoever in their life for any of their actions.

 

[Deleted member 1410]

Lots of talk about "studies have proven" in here, no research at all. I'll start:

No relationship between intelligence and facial attractiveness in a large, genetically informative sample

plus

Biology. Chad couldn't get preventative care for his GRIDS if it weren't for this man.

Mathematics.

Music.

Philosophy.



Since you brought it up, it struck me that you do look somewhat like Steve Austin in the Temple of the Morning Star insert.



Not even close. Baseless geneticope.



I don't think I've ever met one that wasn't unintelligent. Walk into the business hall of any major university to witness the dumbest fags the place has to offer.

Finding a stupid Stacy? Might as well just be "find a Stacy."

yeah but I'm sure Steve slays more than I do. thanks for the compliment though. those guys look like they have some looks issue. but yeah, not for them, no new ideas, research, etc.
it seems though they might have been at least a 7/10 in their time but now, not so sure about that.

 

[Deleted member 2798]

yeah but I'm sure Steve slays more than I do.

I've always wondered about the circumstances surrounding the third (self-titled) album. Willpower was obviously about a relationship combusting, with the next album then being some kind of fall out from it. But how to interpret it? All of those lyrical fragments embedded in my head from college ("Trust no one", "I have no place in the outside world", "I stand alone, I stand alone, you don't know what I face", "I can't understand why my life is wrong, I just don't fit in, I do not belong", "I smell sex, I can't eat, I can't sleep", "No end in sight to my fucked up life, I can't go on"). He's spoken at length about Temple, but I really wonder what lies behind the S/T - it matches my own affects and thoughts all too closely.

The guy met his wife some time around Eyes, I think, so quite a while ago.

those guys look like they have some looks issue. but yeah, not for them, no new ideas, research, etc.
it seems though they might have been at least a 7/10 in their time but now, not so sure about that.

That picture of Temin was from the late 70s I think. Certainly no 7/10 by more-or-less modern standards.

Leibniz was notoriously ugly in his time, from what I've heard. Kant was an incel. Stravinsky looks like he could have easily been one.

 

[Deleted member 1410]

German Idealism birthed Fascism. now it makes sense.
Fascism is an incel ideology. although there are various strains from leftist kind I prefer to francoist capitalist fascism.

 

[happiless]

major cope. Most incels want to think they at least are intelligent and Chad is dumb but studies show that attractiveness is often correlated with intelligence, even if there may be exceptions.

Most of the most intelligent persons I know are all above average looking.

Totally. There's nothing that makes a foid pussy wetter than the looks of a machine learning programmer at Google, or a scientist with a PHD.

 

[Insomniac]

cope

 

[randomguy1235]

No they aren't, most incels are slightly below-average. Maybe most incels.is users are average to slightly above-average, and the blackpill certainly takes some intelligence to accept, but in general, the only common denominator among incels is their inceldom.

Yep. People who haven't taken an actual, in-person IQ test tend to vastly overrate their intelligence, similar to how all normies think they're 8-9/10 in terms of looks but are really 4-5s at best. The phenomenon is called the Dunning - Kruger effect

those studies are the best we have as a substantial proof when we discuss the issue. Scientists and Evolutionary Psychologists(people who devote their lives to this area rather than posting on incel forums) already offer extrinsic and intrinsic reasons why this significant correlation between looks and higher IQ exists.

Cope however you want. There IS a significant correlation between looks and IQ. proven time and time again. Both by small size and national size longitudinal studies. You can't oversimply it by saying "basic child studies".
This isnt to say every ugly incel is dumb. They have 20k+ sample size, very high regression coefficient, very high level of confidence. and that is with controlling for shit ton of factors.
Those studies dont say every uggo is dumb. Every incel reading this post could be a genius and it still wouldnt change a damn thing.

Also learn what chad worshipping is. Calling it as it is, is NOT chad worshipping. Blackpill is about embracing the TRUTH, no matter how uncomfortable it is.

Let me put it this way:

Your FACIAL ATTRACTIVENESS itself is a better indicator of your IQ level than socioeconomic background of your parents. (higher regression coefficient)
let that sink in.

My boy 13k spelling it out for these copers. JFLLLLLLL at anyone thinking incel/ugly genetics correlate with intelligence when literally every study says the antithesis is true: ON AVERAGE, more attractive people are more intelligent.

 

[StormlitAqua]

Formerly. I'm over in bugville right now. I'll certainly be in contact (+ @StormlitAqua) if I ever find myself in Ohio.

alright man well it would awesome af to meet up.

Count me in if you ever find yourself in Ohio. I am not far from Pennsylvania in the grand scheme of things if you guys live near Erie or Shitsburgh (fuck the steelers), I'm game for that too. I'm really fine going anywhere within a 2 hr radius of Cleveland (Columbus, Akron, Toledo, Sandusky, etc.).

bugville =?

 

[ChronicPaincel]

Finally someone said it. JFL at incels that looks at themselves as worthless while worshiping Chad and his "superior genetics" i'd rip chads fucking head off if given the chance.

I would say most incels do have higher than average iqs but I would not say it is universal. One advantage we do have is the ability to cope with loneliness as we've lived our lives as outcasts. Also being jaded kind of makes you open your eyes to how fucked up our decadent society is.

major cope. Most incels want to think they at least are intelligent and Chad is dumb but studies show that attractiveness is often correlated with intelligence, even if there may be exceptions.

Most of the most intelligent persons I know are all above average looking.

I have a feeling why this seems to be true is because majority of people born with severe deformities also have major intellectual disorders, but this does not account for majority of us Incels, we were born completely fine only problem is we don't have the right bone structures. why would that have anything to do with our intelligence?

"Most of the most intelligent persons I know are all above average looking."
For me it has been the exact opposite. Think of what defines "nerds" for example aren't they associated with being rather unsightly but of really high intelligence? why is that?

Chads are not gods, i am God, chads are too stupid to realize it having their entire lives handed to them, it was my destiny to find this out not theirs.

I'm superior.

 

[leftyincel]

A lot of it is actually put forth by people here. Thread after thread of people claiming that female sexual selection will be "good" for "future generations". Braindead self-abasement.