
verybasedindeed
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• Hasty generalization: "Incels are terrorists because some terrorists had incel motivations
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No. Most incels are not terrorists despite the fact that some terrorists had incel motivations.
• Slippery Slope: "If we allow incels to have a safe space, it will be a breeding ground for terrorists.
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Incorrect. If anything, a safe space will keep us tamed, since we will have a place to vent our frustration and feel accepted.
• Circular argument: "Women hate incels because how incels treat women.
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You got it backwards. Incels hate women because they have been mistreated by them over the years for being ugly.
• Strawman argument: "Incels are dangerous because of their hateful ideology.
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Inceldom is not an ideology. Incels do not adhere to an exclusive ideology.
• Either/or: "You either stop being misogynistic or you are never getting laid.
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False dilemma. It is not black or white. You can be a White Knight simp and still fail to get laid because you are too ugly. A lot of sexhavers are misogynists, too.
• Post hoc ergo propter hoc: "Incels are men and they dislike women, therefore every man that dislikes women is an incel.
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Wrong. Inceldom is not synonymous with misogyny. As noted above, a lot of sexhaving men are misogynists, too. People can have other reasons besides sex to conclude that women are deserving of hate.
• Red herring: "Incels say negative things about women, so the Blackpill is irrelevant.
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Distraction. The Blackpill is relevant in spite of what incels have said.
• Genetic fallacy: "Incels are mentally ill, which is why they hold such wicked views.
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Nope. We hold these views because of facts and logic.
• Ad populum: "The majority of people would disagree with incels on a lot of points. Common sense tells us that incels are wrong.
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"Common sense" also tells us that inserting one's penis into the hairy asshole of another man is normal and healthy, while feeling attracted to a fertile teenage girl is somehow vile and wrong. So you can shove your "common sense" up your ass.
• Moral equivalence: "Some incels say things that are worse than what Hitler or Stalin said.
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Does not mean we are wrong or all incels believe that.
• Begging the claim: "We need to stop incels because they are evil.
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You have not established that incels are evil, by whatever retarded definition you propose.
• Ad hominem: "Incels' claims are wrong and misleading because they are basement-dwelling losers who live with their moms.
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Attacking the author of a claim rather than its content is a flawed reasoning.
Bonus! Appeal to authority: "Incels are wrong because academic consensus says they are.
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Truth is not a democracy. Just because most people in academia says something is not true, it does follow necessarily that it should be mistrusted or looked down on. Unpopular views can hold a lot of water, too.
No. Most incels are not terrorists despite the fact that some terrorists had incel motivations.
• Slippery Slope: "If we allow incels to have a safe space, it will be a breeding ground for terrorists.
Incorrect. If anything, a safe space will keep us tamed, since we will have a place to vent our frustration and feel accepted.
• Circular argument: "Women hate incels because how incels treat women.
You got it backwards. Incels hate women because they have been mistreated by them over the years for being ugly.
• Strawman argument: "Incels are dangerous because of their hateful ideology.
Inceldom is not an ideology. Incels do not adhere to an exclusive ideology.
• Either/or: "You either stop being misogynistic or you are never getting laid.
False dilemma. It is not black or white. You can be a White Knight simp and still fail to get laid because you are too ugly. A lot of sexhavers are misogynists, too.
• Post hoc ergo propter hoc: "Incels are men and they dislike women, therefore every man that dislikes women is an incel.
Wrong. Inceldom is not synonymous with misogyny. As noted above, a lot of sexhaving men are misogynists, too. People can have other reasons besides sex to conclude that women are deserving of hate.
• Red herring: "Incels say negative things about women, so the Blackpill is irrelevant.
Distraction. The Blackpill is relevant in spite of what incels have said.
• Genetic fallacy: "Incels are mentally ill, which is why they hold such wicked views.
Nope. We hold these views because of facts and logic.
• Ad populum: "The majority of people would disagree with incels on a lot of points. Common sense tells us that incels are wrong.
"Common sense" also tells us that inserting one's penis into the hairy asshole of another man is normal and healthy, while feeling attracted to a fertile teenage girl is somehow vile and wrong. So you can shove your "common sense" up your ass.
• Moral equivalence: "Some incels say things that are worse than what Hitler or Stalin said.
Does not mean we are wrong or all incels believe that.
• Begging the claim: "We need to stop incels because they are evil.
You have not established that incels are evil, by whatever retarded definition you propose.
• Ad hominem: "Incels' claims are wrong and misleading because they are basement-dwelling losers who live with their moms.
Attacking the author of a claim rather than its content is a flawed reasoning.
Bonus! Appeal to authority: "Incels are wrong because academic consensus says they are.
Truth is not a democracy. Just because most people in academia says something is not true, it does follow necessarily that it should be mistrusted or looked down on. Unpopular views can hold a lot of water, too.