Serious Inceldom merely a symptom...?

[赤い太陽]

I'm new to this forum, but I have read through several posts over the past few months. I've even noticed a few patterns with various Incels who've discussed their personal situation. I've listed some of the usual "issues" members of this forum have mentioned below:

1. Joblessness/Unemployment (or Underemployment - that is, little earning potential). I've seen the term NEET mentioned a lot.
2. Still living with parents (due to either financial issues or otherwise)
3. Suicidal
4. Mental Illness (generally mild, from what I've read)
5. Poor health
6. Unattractive Facial features (also short height and poor physique)
7. Socially isolated (no friends, and sometimes never having a close friend)
8. Physical abuse as children/Bullying
9. Poor treatment from other members in the community
10. Extreme depression
11. Low IQ (unintelligent)

The low IQ, unattractive appearance, and poor job prospects seemed to pop up the most as I browsed through the forum. Isolation socially was another big one, but I couldn't figure out an age rage just from looking due to that info not being shared. I've thus come to suspect that the term "Incel", while accurate, is not all encompassing. That is to say, I feel that being involuntarily celibate is merely a symptom, and the obvious culprit is having bad genetics.

One of my favorite YouTube Channels is Thinking Ape - a.k.a Stardusk - and he speaks about Human biodiversity a lot in recent years. That said, I've learned through him that genetics serve primarily as a glass ceiling, limiting most people in how far they can go physically, economically, sexually, and even socially.

At this point, I'm preaching to the choir; we've all lived our lives dealing with most of these issues. I'm just curious though: Do you think Incels like us should take the next step and find a term that's a bit more reflective of all the other symptoms mentioned above?

I though of derelicts, but that seems to define ones employment status a bit more. I'm not sure if there's a medical term either. All I'm trying to say is that being sexually undesirable is just a piece of a large puzzle, and perhaps terminology could be useful in further identifying the true issue surrounding poor genetics.

Your thoughts?

 

[Evildoer]

Do you think Incels like us should take the next step and find a term that's a bit more reflective of all the other symptoms mentioned above?

Why the hell would you do that? Incel is involuntary celibate. An ugly person who can't get sex and romantic relationships with women. This is a forum for such kind. So, what's the point again?

 

[Deleted member 5861]

11. Low IQ (unintelligent)

LMAO you gonna roast us on your first thread?
also OP the list you made are symptoms of inceldom (besides things like height or looks, which caused our inceldom). Like inceldom causes men to be depressed, eliminating their desire to work so they are NEET. It is either that or they are routinely discriminated against and can't work because of it. So "incel" is an appropriate term for us.

 

[EARTH]

Do you think Incels like us should take the next step and find a term that's a bit more reflective of all the other symptoms mentioned above?

Yes, let's use the term subhuman.

 

[赤い太陽]

LMAO you gonna roast us on your first thread?

I'm not trying to roast anybody. I have a low IQ (89 is pretty bad; I took an IQ test a few months ago). I have been through most of the things on that list, and these are things that forum users themselves have admitted to. I'm not making any of this up, nor am I trying to put anyone down. I just think that if people on this forum are admitting to these things, then maybe being incel is just a small part of a bigger issue.

 

[Mongolianwizard]

Oh hey, another long fucking post from a newcel.

 

[Evildoer]

Yes, let's use the term subhuman.

Weren't we using that one already?

 

[Deleted member 5861]

Oh hey, another long fucking post from a newcel.

You should really see my threads bruv, literally takes at least 5 minutes to read my typical thread when reading at a decent pace.

 

[赤い太陽]

Why the hell would you do that? Incel is involuntary celibate. An ugly person who can't get sex and romantic relationships with women. This is a forum for such kind. So, what's the point again?

The point I was trying to make is that maybe being incel is just part of a bigger problem. Think about it; if so many users in the past having made not of the issues I mentioned in their personal lives, maybe the issue is beyond being incel, and perhaps a term could be coined to explore that farther. That doesn't mean chuck the incel label or ideas related to it, but to dig a bit deeper to see of something else is going on.

Oh hey, another long fucking post from a newcel.

So there's a "cel" for every occasion?

 

[NEETAndTidy]

Inceldom is a symptom of being fucking ugly, manlet, and everything else wrong with us

 

[Deleted member 3291]

there is already another term - volcels

 

[Evildoer]

The point I was trying to make is that maybe being incel is just part of a bigger problem.

No, it isn't. Many completely different man becoming incels today because of femoidism, as this gave femoids an opportunity to completely exlude sub 4/10 men from their dating pool, and soon 5-6/10s would struggle heavily as well.

Traits you mentioned we have in common is most likely because we was mistreated and bullied in our childhood for our ugliness, and therefore we (vast majority of us) are not developed like normal functioning adults.

 

[Deleted member 7573]

LMAO you gonna roast us on your first thread?

KEk OP doesn't realize that because we are humans we like to shit post sometimes, most of my time here I'm just venting.

 

[赤い太陽]

Yes, let's use the term subhuman.

A bit harsh, I think...

there is already another term - volcels

But doesn't volcel imply that celibacy is voluntary? That doesn't really seem to match up with what I had in mind. But thanks for the heads up.

 

[CaptainCuck]

I'm new to this forum, but I have read through several posts over the past few months. I've even noticed a few patterns with various Incels who've discussed their personal situation. I've listed some of the usual "issues" members of this forum have mentioned below:

1. Joblessness/Unemployment (or Underemployment - that is, little earning potential). I've seen the term NEET mentioned a lot.
2. Still living with parents (due to either financial issues or otherwise)
3. Suicidal
4. Mental Illness (generally mild, from what I've read)
5. Poor health
6. Unattractive Facial features (also short height and poor physique)
7. Socially isolated (no friends, and sometimes never having a close friend)
8. Physical abuse as children/Bullying
9. Poor treatment from other members in the community
10. Extreme depression
11. Low IQ (unintelligent)

The low IQ, unattractive appearance, and poor job prospects seemed to pop up the most as I browsed through the forum. Isolation socially was another big one, but I couldn't figure out an age rage just from looking due to that info not being shared. I've thus come to suspect that the term "Incel", while accurate, is not all encompassing. That is to say, I feel that being involuntarily celibate is merely a symptom, and the obvious culprit is having bad genetics.

One of my favorite YouTube Channels is Thinking Ape - a.k.a Stardusk - and he speaks about Human biodiversity a lot in recent years. That said, I've learned through him that genetics serve primarily as a glass ceiling, limiting most people in how far they can go physically, economically, sexually, and even socially.

At this point, I'm preaching to the choir; we've all lived our lives dealing with most of these issues. I'm just curious though: Do you think Incels like us should take the next step and find a term that's a bit more reflective of all the other symptoms mentioned above?

I though of derelicts, but that seems to define ones employment status a bit more. I'm not sure if there's a medical term either. All I'm trying to say is that being sexually undesirable is just a piece of a large puzzle, and perhaps terminology could be useful in further identifying the true issue surrounding poor genetics.

Your thoughts?

While I think the term incel suits us fine, there is another term for us floating around called TFL (True Forced Loneliness).

When normies hear of the term incel they think we just want sex (hence the term involuntarily celibate) and they say "just see a hooker!".

However most incels want more than that: love, validation and emotional support. All of these are impossible when you are forced to be alone in the relationship sense.

Therefore, sometimes I think TFL might suit us a bit better.

 

[mviper]

I'm not trying to roast anybody. I have a low IQ (89 is pretty bad; I took an IQ test a few months ago). I have been through most of the things on that list, and these are things that forum users themselves have admitted to. I'm not making any of this up, nor am I trying to put anyone down. I just think that if people on this forum are admitting to these things, then maybe being incel is just a small part of a bigger issue.

Your prose isn't reflective of someone with an IQ of 89. I put you at around 110. Any higher, and you would have been more than capable of masking your true intentions. I sense a rat.

 

[Gigacel]

The name literally means involuntary celibate. And if it was controllable by fixing the stuff and knowing that it leads to a relationship, then that would mean your celibacy is voluntary. However, this is much like the chicken and egg.

 

[BrendioEEE]

Low IQ post

 

[idkwattodowithlife]

I don't think "Inceldom" is a "symptom," I personally think it's more of a "collective" composed of our struggles... than a symptom itself... Rather the opposite or converse to what you've said.

Anyways, welcome to incels.is by the way

 

[Deleted member 8499]

Correct observation. It all boils down to us being unattractive. That's the philosophy of the blackpill. Looks matter in so many ways i n life.

 

[MaxZM98]

when someone makes a post you find stupid, we call it 'low IQ'. It doesn't mean we actually have had an IQ test and got a low score. for example, this thread I would consider to be 'low IQ' because it's completely pointless. why would we change Incel?

 

[Barry]

incels are a symptom of the fact SOCIETY IS FUCKED for all those reasons.

I've been saying this since I joined. WE aren't the problem (fuck you inceltears retards) we are a symptom of the problem.

The world is fucked. overpopulation. depleted resources. concentrated capital to the 1%. social media. breakdown of the family unit and of communities. mass migration with no integration. vast desertification of the poorest parts of the world. poor quality foods made for profit margins. estrogen in the water. social mobility being dead. healthcare systems struggling to cope with the strain of obese, mentally ill and physically crippled generations.

add in the fact that most of us are form the west, where a global hegemony that has existed for 500 years is coming to an end so quality of life is going to massively drop, and you have winner winner chicken dinner to explain the state of the world.

the facr that some dudes can't get laid is a result of all of these issues but surprise nobody gives a fuck because ultimately we're not important

 

[UBERCEL]

Yes, let's use the term subhuman.

Preach

 

[_incelinside]

'Losers'

 

[Jockcel]

Nicola Tesla IQ. I have always said that inceldom is only part of how low quality genetics affect you.

 

[UBERCEL]

Btw OP, I doubt that I test was accurate as it doesn't completely test what are you good in.
Just pattern noticing .
Welcome to the forum high-IQcel

Nicola Tesla IQ. I have always said that inceldom is only part of how low quality genetics affect you.

Aka SUBHUMAN

 

[Gyros_Pretcel]

If anything we should develop more class consciousness merge with the extreme left and fight for neuro- and biodiversity acceptance and libertarian socialism.

Most incel problems result from shitty early lifes through economical, social and structural discrimination. Incelproblem could be solved single handedly if the controlling conglomerates wouldn't bribe the goverment to leave innocent children to rot while exploiting as much workforce out of their parents as possible.

Won't happen though. Corporate propaganda did a good job to demonize and stultify real free economies and most people here, while posting scientific stuff how inceldom develops, can't make the connection to the points in the upper paragraph.

 

[EARTH]

If anything we should develop more class consciousness merge with the extreme left and fight for neurodiversity acceptance and libertarian socialism.

Most incel problems result from shitty early lifes through economical, social and structural descrimination.

Most problems are caused by subhumaness. Forget this "class consciousness" Marxist nonsense. It has failed over and over. God-damn subhumans think they can just force equality of outcome and everything will magically work out. Fool.

Here is the real solution:

1) We need to cut the population by 90%.

2) We need technological singularity.

3) We need high-tech eugenics programs to build a society of high-IQ, high-quality human beings. The rest = exterminated.

Yes, be prepared to sacrifice yourself for the sake of the future. Subhumans do not deserve to walk this planet.

 

[Gyros_Pretcel]

@EARTH
Nah, though coopted by the rich, we made some ground. The west ist just currently in an instable hybrid system (cultural marxism) which is slowly breaking apart.

Equality of outcome is a meme of the right . I hope you know that.

There are subhumans but mostly to genetical recombination, mutation and enviromental factors.

- Genetical diversity inside a group is broader than between people of different groups of similar type (known as chad is chad).
- IQ has a regression to the middle.
- Heigt and looks have huge external factors and can change in some generations

Where is the point in extermination? The life is there to be lived and everone has the same right to do this?

We have the technology to enable each person who participates in a western style economy a good life. Birthrates go down with prosperity everywhere. The more workers we have the more wealth wil be accumalted through vertical scaling factors. (plattform economy etc.). And of those workers more bright lights will be discovered as well. So much untapped human potential in the world.

Singularity is a far to big gamble imo.

I agree with non violent eugenics (prenatal diagnostics is a good start).

Why are you such a fatalist? This is just a self fulfilling prophecy, lol. If every person I met in my life ,who said: "Good, but we can't change it, because people are to dumb and manipulated." would do something, we would already be there.

 

[4700euros]

I am an incel.

I have a nice job and i work in front of the sea.
I will buy my own home.

I am mild autistic.
I am a manlet.
I am fat, and gymcel gave me nothing.

There are extroverteds with good jobs that are incels.

Incels is a symptom and there are many causes but not all of them are the typical unemployed introverted.

 

[FiveFourManlet]

very low IQ, if a tall handsome man had all those symptoms he wouldnt have problem with women.
LOOKS

 

[Summer202]

Shitty looks (wether they be height,face etc...) lead to us being bullied and socially isolated by both genders but mostly foids; wich leads to depression, suicidal tendencies and mental health problems. That in turn causes us to not have any energy to expend in studies or work, so we get low paying jobs.

Don't know about low IQ tho.

 

[Bagelcel]

I'm new to this forum, but I have read through several posts over the past few months. I've even noticed a few patterns with various Incels who've discussed their personal situation. I've listed some of the usual "issues" members of this forum have mentioned below:

1. Joblessness/Unemployment (or Underemployment - that is, little earning potential). I've seen the term NEET mentioned a lot.
2. Still living with parents (due to either financial issues or otherwise)
3. Suicidal
4. Mental Illness (generally mild, from what I've read)
5. Poor health
6. Unattractive Facial features (also short height and poor physique)
7. Socially isolated (no friends, and sometimes never having a close friend)
8. Physical abuse as children/Bullying
9. Poor treatment from other members in the community
10. Extreme depression
11. Low IQ (unintelligent)

The low IQ, unattractive appearance, and poor job prospects seemed to pop up the most as I browsed through the forum. Isolation socially was another big one, but I couldn't figure out an age rage just from looking due to that info not being shared. I've thus come to suspect that the term "Incel", while accurate, is not all encompassing. That is to say, I feel that being involuntarily celibate is merely a symptom, and the obvious culprit is having bad genetics.

One of my favorite YouTube Channels is Thinking Ape - a.k.a Stardusk - and he speaks about Human biodiversity a lot in recent years. That said, I've learned through him that genetics serve primarily as a glass ceiling, limiting most people in how far they can go physically, economically, sexually, and even socially.

At this point, I'm preaching to the choir; we've all lived our lives dealing with most of these issues. I'm just curious though: Do you think Incels like us should take the next step and find a term that's a bit more reflective of all the other symptoms mentioned above?

I though of derelicts, but that seems to define ones employment status a bit more. I'm not sure if there's a medical term either. All I'm trying to say is that being sexually undesirable is just a piece of a large puzzle, and perhaps terminology could be useful in further identifying the true issue surrounding poor genetics.

Your thoughts?

1) I have a job and i'm self employed, i even make decent money for my age
2)I have my own apartment but i've put it on rent because i CHOOSE to be with my parents
3) I'm not really suicidal, but i used to be, though i am like 2-3% suicidal but that's not too much
4)Yeah mild mental illness i guess
5)Ehhhh i gain weight really easily and i'm skinny fat, i'm more prone to medical issues at times if i don't keep up with my diet/excercise/nutrition
6)Poor physique yes, due to very bad frame + skinny fat
7)I have two very close friends, and atleast 10+ friends that love my company but i hate anyones company because i'm a massive introvert
8)Bullying yes
9)Not really
10)Not extreme
11) High IQ i have two masters degrees (almost) and i used to be a part of MENSA

Everyone here has different situations tbh, it all stems down from either
Lack of Face/Lack of height/Lack of frame

"Mentalcel" is a cope and an excuse for goodlooking people to LARP here and not work on themselves/work on ascending.

 

[Izayacel]

Inceldom or better, deprivementors of sex and intimacy is just the result of gynocracy and feminism, the standarts are ridiculous and if you dont meet them your just a buxer

Woman arent capable of logic and reason yet alone they decide and or pick who mates with them, this is the result them of wanting fairytales and we wanting sex

 

[grayjedi90]

Shitty looks (wether they be height,face etc...) lead to us being bullied and socially isolated by both genders but mostly foids; wich leads to depression, suicidal tendencies and mental health problems. That in turn causes us to not have any energy to expend in studies or work, so we get low paying jobs.

Don't know about low IQ tho.

Every human is different and has limits. Low IQ people can try to study and learn hard af and still will be outclassed by mid IQ people. Society doesn't want to admit it but there are also people that are good at nothing and can barely keep up an average skill level in any activity they do.

 

[赤い太陽]

1) I have a job and i'm self employed, i even make decent money for my age
2)I have my own apartment but i've put it on rent because i CHOOSE to be with my parents
3) I'm not really suicidal, but i used to be, though i am like 2-3% suicidal but that's not too much
4)Yeah mild mental illness i guess
5)Ehhhh i gain weight really easily and i'm skinny fat, i'm more prone to medical issues at times if i don't keep up with my diet/excercise/nutrition
6)Poor physique yes, due to very bad frame + skinny fat
7)I have two very close friends, and atleast 10+ friends that love my company but i hate anyones company because i'm a massive introvert
8)Bullying yes
9)Not really
10)Not extreme
11) High IQ i have two masters degrees (almost) and i used to be a part of MENSA

Everyone here has different situations tbh, it all stems down from either
Lack of Face/Lack of height/Lack of frame

"Mentalcel" is a cope and an excuse for goodlooking people to LARP here and not work on themselves/work on ascending.

I love the credentials. It's good to see that some members on this forum are doing exceptionally well in life. I do feel bad for many of the guys who exhibit some of the issues I mentioned. I feel that being incel is just one of many other inherent problems.

As for working on yourself, I used to do that, but I've lost motivation. I've become a bit nihilistic lately, and don't really have a sense of purpose at the moment.

Your prose isn't reflective of someone with an IQ of 89. I put you at around 110. Any higher, and you would have been more than capable of masking your true intentions. I sense a rat.

I took an IQ test last year, so I just go with what the results tell me. Besides, 89 is pretty dense, and it's several points below my country's national average.

What true intentions? I just think the incels who are going through a lot in their lives are probably suffering from a whole lot more than merely being undesirable.

 

[Bagelcel]

I love the credentials. It's good to see that some members on this forum are doing exceptionally well in life. I do feel bad for many of the guys who exhibit some of the issues I mentioned. I feel that being incel is just one of many other inherent problems.

As for working on yourself, I used to do that, but I've lost motivation. I've become a bit nihilistic lately, and don't really have a sense of purpose at the moment.


I took an IQ test last year, so I just go with what the results tell me. Besides, 89 is pretty dense, and it's several points below my country's national average.

What true intentions? I just think the incels who are going through a lot in their lives are probably suffering from a whole lot more than merely being undesirable.

Don't get me wrong, i'm still very nihilistic.
I hate life and i hate everything and don't care for anything

The only thing i love is my parents.
That's it.

 

[赤い太陽]

I am an incel.

I have a nice job and i work in front of the sea.
I will buy my own home.

I am mild autistic.
I am a manlet.
I am fat, and gymcel gave me nothing.

There are extroverteds with good jobs that are incels.

Incels is a symptom and there are many causes but not all of them are the typical unemployed introverted.

You're very right, but I think we're all dealt, to some degree, a rather poor genetic hand, especially in the looks department. Otherwise, we wouldn't be Incels I'd imagine.

Nicola Tesla IQ. I have always said that inceldom is only part of how low quality genetics affect you.

I've always admired Tesla, but I think his celibacy was largely voluntary. Some women did offer themselves to him, according to the biography I read.