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Theory Incel tiers and why not all ''incels'' are built the same. It's the reason ''fakecels'' keep coming here

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The term ''incel'' has different meanings depending on who uses it.

A feminist may even say a Chad is an ''incel'' due to his right-wing views, but most humans would understand an incel is essentially a ''man who struggles with women''. However, there are very different degrees of struggling and different reasons why a man would decide to join this incel forum.

[Fakecel tiers]
  • Low tier normie- these are essentially normies who have a couple of negative traits that keep them from being normal normies. They are often looksmaxxers and gymmaxxers because they have a real chance at ascension. Self-improvement is worth in their case. They are often part of a social circle and they participate in social activities IRL with their friend group. They may be virgin, but they may have had romantic success in the past. They typically leave the forum after a month or two, or after getting banned for bragging. A LTN has good chances to get his female looksmatch.
  • Failed normie - a tier below the LTNs. They typically have multiple and more severe negative traits that affect them more noticeably. Some of them practise gymmaxxing and looksmaxxing. Depending on the type of negative traits they suffer from, looksmaxxing might be able to overcome them. They typically have poor social skills and may not have IRL friends, but they may have other failed normies or LTNs as online friends, and they may participate in online activities, mostly gaming with online friends. Has low, but still considerable chances to get with his female looksmatch.
There is a distinction in the ''fakecel'' tiers between IRL activities and online activities. Basically, if you are not social/cool/popular enough for IRL stuff, you may be able to do in the online spaces since it is a more ''indirect'' environment where looks are not as important, so bad looks won't lead to a loss of confidence like IRL.

[Incel tiers]
  • Incel- the first real ''incel'' category. Incels are a tier below failed normies. Incels are ugly and undesireable men whose bad looks affect their lives negatively, in noticeable and significant ways. Their negative traits are so numerous and so severe that they are almost impossible to overcome through looksmaxxing, except possibly through expensive and extensive surgery, but that's not a realistic option. Incels are so ugly that they may be harrased due to their looks in public if they go outThe overwhelming bad traits can cripple an incel's social abilities, even for online activities. Often depressed and suicidal. Incels often LDAR and are typically neurodivergent. LTNs and failed normies don't want to associate with incels in most cases, even for online activities. An incel is too ugly for his female looksmatch.
  • Truecel - a ''truecel'' is a disruptively ugly and subhuman incel who cannot lead a normal life even outside the struggles with women and having friends. Truecels suffer either from a severe form of autism, or several hideous ugly features that cause humans to react strongly with aggressive displays of disgust towards him. A truecel essentially cannot go outside without being harassed. There is no point in any form of looksmaxxing. If they haven't roped yet, truecels no longer care about their own wellbeing and hygiene, and they live in messy dirty environments, waiting to physically die as well, as spiritually they've been dead since birth.

So why would the ''fakecel'' tiers want to come here? Well, all the 4 categories I described above are tehnically 'incel'. They are men who want to be in a relationship with women, but they haven't found anyone yet in that particular moment. The fakecels can also relate to incels in a superficial sense regarding the struggles with women, not to mention this forum is entertainment and it be fun to discuss non-incel topics in the other forums. This is a good hanging space for men.

The difference is that it may take the LTN a couple of weeks or months to find a woman, then he won't be ''incel'' anymore, but he did technically struggle up until that point, compared to a Chad, for example. It may take the failed normie several months, maybe a couple of years, but he may find a woman eventually.

The most realistic ascension chance for incels is when they are older, maybe in the 40s, and they find an older desperate, divorced single mother low tier Becky with two children. He would be a betabuxx cuck and the LTB would likely not want to have new children with him. But the desperation of the LTB would need to be stronger than the feeling of disgust she gets from looking at the incel. I cannot imagine any other realistic ascenscion scenario for incels.

The truecel would have no realistic ascension scenario. He will die virgin unless he pays an escort to let him fuck her. ''It never began'' is said very often here, but in the truecel's case, it is the most accurate possible sentence to describe him.
 
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I’m not the best looking or extremely ugly but I have lots of things about me like my autism, depression, anxiety, small dick, small hands, big forehead, suicidal, socially awkward around foids, 5’9,
I didn’t even have the motivation to start college this semester and might not ever go. I might not be the worst looking but I’m not even close to the best looking and I have more mental issues than listed. I also dealt with stomach issues and got a back condition during highschool which made me more anti social and made it so I can’t hit the gym. My highschool experience ruined me. All the boys had girlfriends beside me. I’m KHHV.
 
Well, the ltn and the failed normie need to tryhard many years just to get a mediocre pussy who doesnt really loves him or will eventually divorce rape him in the future, so at the end its better to just give up and ldar, real love is CHAD only
 
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I am Truecel 4 life
 
Truecel - a ''truecel'' is a disruptively ugly and subhuman incel who cannot lead a normal life even outside the struggles with women and having friends. Truecels suffer either from a severe form of autism, or several hideous ugly features that cause humans to react strongly with aggressive displays of disgust towards him.
this all applies to me :feelsrope:
 
I might be a failed normie. Sometimes kids laugh at me but it has happened less and less often. The fact that people at the bar know who I am and they also rarely strike up conversation (with no input from me) has me believe that I am no trucel.
 
The truecel description fits me pretty well
 
women's standards get higher every year. average guys who could previously get their looksmatch after a long amount of time of "game" now can't even achieve that. I personally believe most sub 7s are some degree of nearcelish if stats are believed.
 
most self proclaimed 'incels' arent even that ugly they are just socially retarded
 
Woke retarded females have changed the meaning. It from from not being able to form a female relationship to having right winged values.
 
Woke retarded females have changed the meaning. It from from not being able to form a female relationship to having right winged values.
Yes, that is another type of ''incel'' :feelsokman:
 
I'm a trucel.

>be me
>sitting in a library and reading, minding my own buisness
>foid walks in and is chatting loudly on the phone
>I turn around, momentairly flashing her with my side profile
>she bursts out laughing and walks away
>I sit there realizing how over it is.
 
I'm a trucel.

>be me
>sitting in a library and reading, minding my own buisness
>foid walks in and is chatting loudly on the phone
>I turn around, momentairly flashing her with my side profile
>she bursts out laughing and walks away
>I sit there realizing how over it is.
Many such cases
 
[Fakecel tiers]
  • Low tier normie- these are essentially normies who have a couple of negative traits that keep them from being normal normies. They are often looksmaxxers and gymmaxxers because they have a real chance at ascension. Self-improvement is worth in their case. They are often part of a social circle and they participate in social activities IRL with their friend group. They may be virgin, but they may have had romantic success in the past. They typically leave the forum after a month or two, or after getting banned for bragging. A LTN has good chances to get his female looksmatch.
  • Failed normie - a tier below the LTNs. They typically have multiple and more severe negative traits that affect them more noticeably. Some of them practise gymmaxxing and looksmaxxing. Depending on the type of negative traits they suffer from, looksmaxxing might be able to overcome them. They typically have poor social skills and may not have IRL friends, but they may have other failed normies or LTNs as online friends, and they may participate in online activities, mostly gaming with online friends. Has low, but still considerable chances to get with his female looksmatch.

[Incel tiers]
  • Incel- the first real ''incel'' category. Incels are a tier below failed normies. Incels are ugly and undesireable men whose bad looks affect their lives negatively, in noticeable and significant ways. Their negative traits are so numerous and so severe that they are almost impossible to overcome through looksmaxxing, except possibly through expensive and extensive surgery, but that's not a realistic option. Incels are so ugly that they may be harrased due to their looks in public if they go outThe overwhelming bad traits can cripple an incel's social abilities, even for online activities. Often depressed and suicidal. Incels often LDAR and are typically neurodivergent. LTNs and failed normies don't want to associate with incels in most cases, even for online activities. An incel is too ugly for his female looksmatch.
  • Truecel - a ''truecel'' is a disruptively ugly and subhuman incel who cannot lead a normal life even outside the struggles with women and having friends. Truecels suffer either from a severe form of autism, or several hideous ugly features that cause humans to react strongly with aggressive displays of disgust towards him. A truecel essentially cannot go outside without being harassed. There is no point in any form of looksmaxxing. If they haven't roped yet, truecels no longer care about their own wellbeing and hygiene, and they live in messy dirty environments, waiting to physically die as well, as spiritually they've been dead since birth.
OK this is what I was looking for. I personally believe I may fall into the failed normie category or possibly what you are calling "incel". It's honestly hard to tell.
 
its been a while since an undeniably pin worthy thread popped up

I would just say the way you categorized low tier normie and failed normie lacks enough distinction. I would probably combine the two categories, and add one above that what I would call a '4chan sex haver' or 'edgy normie' -- which is a sex haver that sometimes struggles with long term dating ironically due to dark triad personality traits. Also ironically, they tend to not have problems just pumping and dumping because of those dark triad traits. They enjoy edgy internet subcultures, bullying lolcows trannies and leftists, and often are what IT members think of as an 'incel.' These edgy normies also have the ability to straight up get away with 'problematic' views as part of their public persona because it has no effect on their sex lives whatsoever, whereas a failed normie cannot be so cavalier about saying something like 'women need to be in cages' on a dating profile. A failed normie stakes great effort into masking his internet persona from his public persona.
 
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I’m not the best looking or extremely ugly but I have lots of things about me like my autism, depression, anxiety, small dick, small hands, big forehead, suicidal, socially awkward around foids, 5’9,
I didn’t even have the motivation to start college this semester and might not ever go. I might not be the worst looking but I’m not even close to the best looking and I have more mental issues than listed. I also dealt with stomach issues and got a back condition during highschool which made me more anti social and made it so I can’t hit the gym. My highschool experience ruined me. All the boys had girlfriends beside me. I’m KHHV.
damn brutal mang hope you life gets better
 
its been a while since an undeniably pin worthy thread popped up

I would just say the way you categorized low tier normie and failed normie lacks enough distinction. I would probably combine the two categories, and add one above that what I would call a '4chan sex haver' or 'edgy normie' -- which is a sex haver that sometimes struggles with long term dating ironically due to dark triad personality traits. Also ironically, they tend to not have problems just pumping and dumping because of those dark triad traits. They enjoy edgy internet subcultures, bullying lolcows trannies and leftists, and often are what IT members think of as an 'incel.' These edgy normies also have the ability to straight up get away with 'problematic' views as part of their public persona because it has no effect on their sex lives whatsoever, whereas a failed normie cannot be so cavalier about saying something like 'women need to be in cages' on a dating profile. A failed normie stakes great effort into masking his internet persona from his public persona.
That seems more like a Chad tbh. Many chads have problematic views which go unpunished. A low tier normie is expected to be compliant cattle and pick up the pieces after the woman gets ditched by a chad or two. A failed normie could not even achieve that.
 
Arbitrary, dogmatic categorization.
 
That seems more like a Chad tbh. Many chads have problematic views which go unpunished. A low tier normie is expected to be compliant cattle and pick up the pieces after the woman gets ditched by a chad or two. A failed normie could not even achieve that.
its a type of fakecel. Real Chads dont use computers even
 
Honestly well put, I would like to add that alot of fakecel normies probably just don't want to looksmatch
 
There is no point in any form of looksmaxxing. If they haven't roped yet, truecels no longer care about their own wellbeing and hygiene, and they live in messy dirty environments, waiting to physically die as well, as spiritually they've been dead since birth.
:fuk:
 
most self proclaimed 'incels' arent even that ugly they are just socially retarded
No such thing as socially retarded (besides very few extreme exceptions).
If you are attractive everything you do is interpreted as a positive trait, if you are ugly everything you do is interpreted as a negative thing.
 
Failed normie
 
Has low, but still considerable chances to get with his female looksmatch.
Maybe if he's from some third world or developing country, LTNs cannot get their looksmatches in 2026.

I am somewhat ND, but MLTN facially on a good day, and would love to have a LTB to creampie daily. But all women go for Chad. HTN is when you start to actually get women.
 
i agree with most of this in the sense that probably all categories are blackpilled, even if they don't know it. but the fakecel tiers just don't belong here on this specific board
 
truecels no longer care about their own wellbeing and hygiene, and they live in messy dirty environments, waiting to physically die as well, as spiritually they've been dead since birth.
brutally describing me, its already over, i rot in my room with piles of trash, im just waiting till i eventually get kicked out
 
Well, I'm probably failed normie by these definitions. But I'd argue that neuro divergence can play bigger role than incel tier ugliness.
 
5’6 racecel gymmaxxer with severe acne and socially inept. Probably fit in the LTN/FN category. Had one relationship with a total whore who would text dry and leave me on read. And I didn’t get to hit cuz LDR. I don’t think relationships are even worth it anymore. Yeah you’ll get pussy but the emotional connection that most of yall crave and honestly need just ain’t there no more unless you’re Chad.
 
LTN's can get their looksmatch only temporarily not pernamently
 
Had one relationship with a total whore who would text dry and leave me on read
Moga me. Closest I did was online and then I got blocked after I face revealed
 
I’m normal looking but do get any girls which still makes me incel
 
Moga me. Closest I did was online and then I got blocked after I face revealed
Yeah I got lucky. I wasn’t her type though. Furthest from it actually. Her type was “blonde, German, femboys”. I’m the literal opposite. lol.
 
The term ''incel'' has different meanings depending on who uses it.

A feminist may even say a Chad is an ''incel'' due to his right-wing views, but most humans would understand an incel is essentially a ''man who struggles with women''. However, there are very different degrees of struggling and different reasons why a man would decide to join this incel forum.

[Fakecel tiers]
  • Low tier normie- these are essentially normies who have a couple of negative traits that keep them from being normal normies. They are often looksmaxxers and gymmaxxers because they have a real chance at ascension. Self-improvement is worth in their case. They are often part of a social circle and they participate in social activities IRL with their friend group. They may be virgin, but they may have had romantic success in the past. They typically leave the forum after a month or two, or after getting banned for bragging. A LTN has good chances to get his female looksmatch.
  • Failed normie - a tier below the LTNs. They typically have multiple and more severe negative traits that affect them more noticeably. Some of them practise gymmaxxing and looksmaxxing. Depending on the type of negative traits they suffer from, looksmaxxing might be able to overcome them. They typically have poor social skills and may not have IRL friends, but they may have other failed normies or LTNs as online friends, and they may participate in online activities, mostly gaming with online friends. Has low, but still considerable chances to get with his female looksmatch.
There is a distinction in the ''fakecel'' tiers between IRL activities and online activities. Basically, if you are not social/cool/popular enough for IRL stuff, you may be able to do in the online spaces since it is a more ''indirect'' environment where looks are not as important, so bad looks won't lead to a loss of confidence like IRL.

[Incel tiers]
  • Incel- the first real ''incel'' category. Incels are a tier below failed normies. Incels are ugly and undesireable men whose bad looks affect their lives negatively, in noticeable and significant ways. Their negative traits are so numerous and so severe that they are almost impossible to overcome through looksmaxxing, except possibly through expensive and extensive surgery, but that's not a realistic option. Incels are so ugly that they may be harrased due to their looks in public if they go outThe overwhelming bad traits can cripple an incel's social abilities, even for online activities. Often depressed and suicidal. Incels often LDAR and are typically neurodivergent. LTNs and failed normies don't want to associate with incels in most cases, even for online activities. An incel is too ugly for his female looksmatch.
  • Truecel - a ''truecel'' is a disruptively ugly and subhuman incel who cannot lead a normal life even outside the struggles with women and having friends. Truecels suffer either from a severe form of autism, or several hideous ugly features that cause humans to react strongly with aggressive displays of disgust towards him. A truecel essentially cannot go outside without being harassed. There is no point in any form of looksmaxxing. If they haven't roped yet, truecels no longer care about their own wellbeing and hygiene, and they live in messy dirty environments, waiting to physically die as well, as spiritually they've been dead since birth.

So why would the ''fakecel'' tiers want to come here? Well, all the 4 categories I described above are tehnically 'incel'. They are men who want to be in a relationship with women, but they haven't found anyone yet in that particular moment. The fakecels can also relate to incels in a superficial sense regarding the struggles with women, not to mention this forum is entertainment and it be fun to discuss non-incel topics in the other forums. This is a good hanging space for men.

The difference is that it may take the LTN a couple of weeks or months to find a woman, then he won't be ''incel'' anymore, but he did technically struggle up until that point, compared to a Chad, for example. It may take the failed normie several months, maybe a couple of years, but he may find a woman eventually.

The most realistic ascension chance for incels is when they are older, maybe in the 40s, and they find an older desperate, divorced single mother low tier Becky with two children. He would be a betabuxx cuck and the LTB would likely not want to have new children with him. But the desperation of the LTB would need to be stronger than the feeling of disgust she gets from looking at the incel. I cannot imagine any other realistic ascenscion scenario for incels.

The truecel would have no realistic ascension scenario. He will die virgin unless he pays an escort to let him fuck her. ''It never began'' is said very often here, but in the truecel's case, it is the most accurate possible sentence to describe him.
Just wait till youre 40 bro!!! Lmao
 
If you know me, you know that the reason that i am a truecel is beyond my manlet height, it's my EXTREME AUTISM
 
I’m not incredibly ugly probably just below average, but my parents decided that despite my mom having mental issues and my dad being 5’7 and ND that having kids would be a great idea, and then they socially stunted me even more by forcing me to do a bunch of bullshit after school tutoring and stuff instead of letting me play with the other kids like normal parents
now I’m a manlet with no social skills and they keep asking me why I don’t have a girlfriend yet
 
Truecel describing my situation perfectly, it's over
 

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