Just in case anyone here is still unsure, because of the constant gaslighting and denials aimed at us whenever we talk about how shit being ugly is and how "personality" is meaningless, about whether we truly are facing such animosity solely due to who we are and not because we might be saying something stupid, I bring up this study:
Updating stereotypical attributions in light of new information: The attractiveness halo effect changes when attractiveness changes
Jfl
. Why aren't people now spamming those researchers, telling them that women don't care about looks and that they should touch grass? Why aren't people asking whether those researchers are closeted gays or trannies, and whether transitioning can save them, as happens so many times whenever our discussions about lookism get reposted here? (seriously, just look at the comments under the video of that debate @Mortis participated in)
This study has delved deeper into the halo effect than any post on .is or other incel forum ever did. It's like comparing cavemen banging rocks together to surgeons using scalpels. We have people who will do Chadfish experiments where they pretend to be douchebags, seeing that halo effect carries even the biggest asshole as long as he's attractive, and post about it, and this will have media in a frenzy about a "new, dangerous trend".
Meanwhile, those scientists analyzed the shit out of this. The academia studying lookism, halo effect and so on is legit years ahead of us. They not only brought up the fact that different traits seem to be influenced by attractiveness halo effect differently strongly, which is something I believe the incel community hadn't yet discovered on its own but what was apparently known since the 80s, but they looked at what happens to those ratings when they tell people that someone is actually either more or less attractive than they looked in the picture that was shown, and how differently each of those traits is affected.
And nobody cares. Nobody cares, because it's not a bunch of lonely, sexless male outcasts, the grown up bullying victims who aren't on the playground anymore but are still targeted by the same bulies, talking about it because it explains so much about their lives and how people treat them. It's not a bunch of people that the media claims are terrorists that should be hated and fought against who are saying that.
I already said this in in this thread by @Copexodius Maximus (which you should check out if you haven't already yet btw.) People studying human behaviour have been saying the same things we are saying now for decades, and have gone further in understanding them than we currently do. Nobody cared, at all, until we adopted those terms and studies. Now, we have every dumbass from all over the political spectrum telling us that we are wrong and we must start thinking differently about the world.
View: https://www.reddit.com/r/TheBluePill/comments/8gviqa/sargon_of_akkad_defends_incels/
It is not, I repeat, IT IS NOT ABOUT WHAT WE SAY, IT'S ABOUT WHO WE ARE. I truly believe that, no matter what "ideology" or "worldview" we would've adopted, it would've been shat on, because we are the ones whose fate it is to be shat on. If this forum started parroting the bluepill and saying that all women are Queens who never have sex and enter relationships with douchebags unless they are manipulated or flat-out mind controlled, the same feminists who are now saying that our problems are due to not respecting women would start talking about us like redpilled PUAs do when making fun of male feminists.
It's us, the socially outcasted, powerless, perpetually bullied us, not what we are saying, that is attracting abuse and mockery.
Updating stereotypical attributions in light of new information: The attractiveness halo effect changes when attractiveness changes
Jfl
. Why aren't people now spamming those researchers, telling them that women don't care about looks and that they should touch grass? Why aren't people asking whether those researchers are closeted gays or trannies, and whether transitioning can save them, as happens so many times whenever our discussions about lookism get reposted here? (seriously, just look at the comments under the video of that debate @Mortis participated in)This study has delved deeper into the halo effect than any post on .is or other incel forum ever did. It's like comparing cavemen banging rocks together to surgeons using scalpels
. We have people who will do Chadfish experiments where they pretend to be douchebags, seeing that halo effect carries even the biggest asshole as long as he's attractive, and post about it, and this will have media in a frenzy about a "new, dangerous trend".Meanwhile, those scientists analyzed the shit out of this. The academia studying lookism, halo effect and so on is legit years ahead of us. They not only brought up the fact that different traits seem to be influenced by attractiveness halo effect differently strongly, which is something I believe the incel community hadn't yet discovered on its own but what was apparently known since the 80s
, but they looked at what happens to those ratings when they tell people that someone is actually either more or less attractive than they looked in the picture that was shown, and how differently each of those traits is affected.And nobody cares. Nobody cares, because it's not a bunch of lonely, sexless male outcasts, the grown up bullying victims who aren't on the playground anymore but are still targeted by the same bulies, talking about it because it explains so much about their lives and how people treat them. It's not a bunch of people that the media claims are terrorists that should be hated and fought against who are saying that.
I already said this in in this thread by @Copexodius Maximus (which you should check out if you haven't already yet btw.) People studying human behaviour have been saying the same things we are saying now for decades, and have gone further in understanding them than we currently do. Nobody cared, at all, until we adopted those terms and studies. Now, we have every dumbass from all over the political spectrum telling us that we are wrong and we must start thinking differently about the world
.View: https://www.reddit.com/r/TheBluePill/comments/8gviqa/sargon_of_akkad_defends_incels/
It is not, I repeat, IT IS NOT ABOUT WHAT WE SAY, IT'S ABOUT WHO WE ARE. I truly believe that, no matter what "ideology" or "worldview" we would've adopted, it would've been shat on, because we are the ones whose fate it is to be shat on. If this forum started parroting the bluepill and saying that all women are Queens who never have sex and enter relationships with douchebags unless they are manipulated or flat-out mind controlled, the same feminists who are now saying that our problems are due to not respecting women would start talking about us like redpilled PUAs do when making fun of male feminists.
It's us, the socially outcasted, powerless, perpetually bullied us, not what we are saying, that is attracting abuse and mockery.
