Biologically women are into testoroeoneonenene. Features of mascunility include: higher bone mass, a larger stature, more muscular build, broader shoulders, a squarer face, and a pronounced jawline. So, the point of my little study was to see if neanderthals would mog all of us if they sticked around.
source (https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6735742/)
In this chart here, we can see the average man's T level in 1999 - 2004 was 3.92 - 6.26 ng/ml. We can also see the slight changes in the years. But to compare homosapien and neanderthal's test levels, we have to count evolutionary and environmental changes too.
Now, this table might be inaccurate as test tests are a modern invention. But we know that T levels are dropping for several reasons:
• Obesity
• Disrupting chemicals
• Stress
• Poor nutrition
Homosapien (left), neanderthal (right)
Neanderthal had an insanely strong, robust skeletons, strong brow ridges and projected jaws displaying traits of extremely high testosterone.
Other features that display high T:
Craniofacial features
Although Neanderthals possessed much in common physically with early modern humans, the constellation of Neanderthal features is unique, with much variation among individuals as far as craniofacial (head and facial) characteristics are concerned. Features of the cranium and lower jaw that were present more often in Neanderthals than in early and recent modern humans include a low-vaulted cranium, large orbital and nasal openings, and prominent arched brow ridges. A pronounced occipital region (the rear and base of the skull) served to anchor the large neck musculature. The cranial capacity of Neanderthals was similar to or larger than that of recent humans. The front teeth were larger than those in modern humans, but the molars and premolars were of a similar size. The lower jaw displayed a receding chin and was robustly built. The mental foramen, a small hole in the skull that allows nerves to reach the lower jaw, was placed farther back in Neanderthals than in recent humans, and a space between the last molar and the ascending edge of the lower jaw occurred in many individuals. There was also apparently less lumbar lordosis (back curvature) in Neanderthals and their predecessors from Sima de los Huesos than in modern humans.
Body proportions and cold stress
Neanderthals were a cold-adapted people. As with their facial features, Neanderthals’ body proportions were variable. However, in general, they possessed relatively short lower limb extremities, compared with their upper arms and legs, and a broad chest. Their arms and legs must have been massive and heavily muscled. This body build would have protected the extremities against damage from cold stress. Voluminous pulp cavities, or taurodontism, in the teeth may also have been an adaptation to cold temperatures or perhaps arose from genetic isolation. Cold stress may have delayed maturation in Neanderthal children, although earlier weaning and dental development have also been suggested from studies of teeth.
(https://www.britannica.com/topic/Neanderthal/Neanderthal-classification)
More CAG repeats = less sensitive androgen receptors and lower androgenic activity, even if testosterone is high.
Neanderthal's CAG repeat lengths are shown to be shorter than the modern humans, meaning even if their test isn't high the effect still be stronger due to their sensitive androgen receptors.
The modern man's T levels
All Men (Median Total Test)
| Age Group | NHANES III (1988–91) | Continuous NHANES (1999–2004) |
|---|---|---|
| 20–39 | 5.99 ng/mL | 5.42 ng/mL |
| 40–59 | 4.86 ng/mL | 4.45 ng/mL |
| 60+ | 4.35 ng/mL | 3.92 ng/mL |
Lean, Healthy, Never-Smokers
| Age Group | NHANES III | Continuous NHANES |
|---|---|---|
| 20–39 | 6.24 ng/mL | 6.26 ng/mL |
| 40–59 | 5.37 ng/mL | 5.86 ng/mL |
| 60+ | 4.61 ng/mL | 4.22 ng/mL |
source (https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6735742/)
In this chart here, we can see the average man's T level in 1999 - 2004 was 3.92 - 6.26 ng/ml. We can also see the slight changes in the years. But to compare homosapien and neanderthal's test levels, we have to count evolutionary and environmental changes too.
Changes in HOMOsapien T levels
This table doesn't include old people| Time Period | Est. Avg. T (ng/dL) | Compared to Modern |
|---|---|---|
| Paleolithic HGs (c. 50,000–10,000 BCE) | ~700–900 | +50–70% |
| Neolithic / Early Agrarian (10,000–3,000 BCE) | ~650–800 | +40–60% |
| Pre-industrial era (3000 BCE–1700s) | ~600–800 | +30–50% |
| Industrial Era (1800s–early 1900s) | ~550–700 | +15–35% |
| 1980s–1990s | ~400–600 | baseline |
Now, this table might be inaccurate as test tests are a modern invention. But we know that T levels are dropping for several reasons:
• Obesity
• Disrupting chemicals
• Stress
• Poor nutrition
Neanderthals T levels
Neanderthals had extremely high test levels, though once again there is no confirmed amount. Though, there are several indications that they had testosterone levels higher than any modern man, and even the prehistoric homosapien.Bone comparison between neanderthal and homosapiens
Neanderthal had an insanely strong, robust skeletons, strong brow ridges and projected jaws displaying traits of extremely high testosterone.
Other features that display high T:
Craniofacial features
Although Neanderthals possessed much in common physically with early modern humans, the constellation of Neanderthal features is unique, with much variation among individuals as far as craniofacial (head and facial) characteristics are concerned. Features of the cranium and lower jaw that were present more often in Neanderthals than in early and recent modern humans include a low-vaulted cranium, large orbital and nasal openings, and prominent arched brow ridges. A pronounced occipital region (the rear and base of the skull) served to anchor the large neck musculature. The cranial capacity of Neanderthals was similar to or larger than that of recent humans. The front teeth were larger than those in modern humans, but the molars and premolars were of a similar size. The lower jaw displayed a receding chin and was robustly built. The mental foramen, a small hole in the skull that allows nerves to reach the lower jaw, was placed farther back in Neanderthals than in recent humans, and a space between the last molar and the ascending edge of the lower jaw occurred in many individuals. There was also apparently less lumbar lordosis (back curvature) in Neanderthals and their predecessors from Sima de los Huesos than in modern humans.
Body proportions and cold stress
Neanderthals were a cold-adapted people. As with their facial features, Neanderthals’ body proportions were variable. However, in general, they possessed relatively short lower limb extremities, compared with their upper arms and legs, and a broad chest. Their arms and legs must have been massive and heavily muscled. This body build would have protected the extremities against damage from cold stress. Voluminous pulp cavities, or taurodontism, in the teeth may also have been an adaptation to cold temperatures or perhaps arose from genetic isolation. Cold stress may have delayed maturation in Neanderthal children, although earlier weaning and dental development have also been suggested from studies of teeth.
(https://www.britannica.com/topic/Neanderthal/Neanderthal-classification)
Modern affects on Neanderthals T
Fewer CAG repeats = more sensitive androgen receptors.More CAG repeats = less sensitive androgen receptors and lower androgenic activity, even if testosterone is high.
Neanderthal's CAG repeat lengths are shown to be shorter than the modern humans, meaning even if their test isn't high the effect still be stronger due to their sensitive androgen receptors.
Would it be over for all of us if they still existed, or would they be on this site with us?
